I am planning to lease a 2018 BMW i3 base model soon. Could you please let me know the money factor and residual value for 30 & 36 months/ 15K year? Is residual value same for all dealers? Is there any incentives besides the $7500 credit?
I am planning to lease a 2018 BMW i3 base model soon. Could you please let me know the money factor and residual value for 30 & 36 months/ 15K year? Is residual value same for all dealers? Is there any incentives besides the $7500 credit?
You can get the $925 acquisition fee waived in exchange for higher MF: Base MF 0.00166, MF to waive AF 0.00216. Saves $$ on a 24/30mo lease, not on 36.
Should the above Quote read... MF to waive AF 0.00206, Not 0.00216 ?
This is news to me and it may help the deal I'm working on, IF it is BMWFS that is waiving the $925 AF? If the dealer is eating it (coming out of dealer profit) then it may not do any good for me to bring it up during negotiations. But if it is waived by BMWNA, then it's potentially a win/win.
Here is what I have so far... Base MY18, i3 REx, MSRP $49295 Dealer - $3500 about 7% is still in negotiations, I'm shooting for more. LeaseC- $7500 Loyalty -$2000 MF .00166 less .00035 (7MSD's)=.00131, AF $925, 8.75% tax 24mo/15K should be around $308 mo. inc tax with 1000 down/cap dedution. If I do the .00206 MF (less MSD's) and no AF payment would drop to $293mo. inc tax. I am a BMWCCA member already but used my annual rebate on a MY19 X3 M40i.
Bill, Acquisition fee waiver bumps MF by .00050 So, 0.00166 + .00050 = 0.00216 It is BMW FS program, the dealer has noting to do with it. Obviously the dealer can markup the MF if you let them...
You can get the $925 acquisition fee waived in exchange for higher MF: Base MF 0.00166, MF to waive AF 0.00216. Saves $$ on a 24/30mo lease, not on 36.
Should the above Quote read... MF to waive AF 0.00206, Not 0.00216 ?
This is news to me and it may help the deal I'm working on, IF it is BMWFS that is waiving the $925 AF? If the dealer is eating it (coming out of dealer profit) then it may not do any good for me to bring it up during negotiations. But if it is waived by BMWNA, then it's potentially a win/win.
Here is what I have so far... Base MY18, i3 REx, MSRP $49295 Dealer - $3500 about 7% is still in negotiations, I'm shooting for more. LeaseC- $7500 Loyalty -$2000 MF .00166 less .00035 (7MSD's)=.00131, AF $925, 8.75% tax 24mo/15K should be around $308 mo. inc tax with 1000 down/cap dedution. If I do the .00206 MF (less MSD's) and no AF payment would drop to $293mo. inc tax. I am a BMWCCA member already but used my annual rebate on a MY19 X3 M40i.
---Bill.
Are there other taxes and fees involved? What state is this?
You can get the $925 acquisition fee waived in exchange for higher MF:
Are there other taxes and fees involved? What state is this?
I am in SoCal 92506, 8.75% tax rate . New calcs with all est fees below. M.S.R.P. $49295 Sale price $45700 before incentives , still in negotiations, about 7% off, but shooting for 8%. Doc/lic fees $600 Appox. Lease Cr. - $7500 OL. code - $1000 Loyalty cr-$2000 24mo/15K 61% RV. With .0005 mark up for no AF, on .00166, less .00035 for 7 MSD's ($2100) I'll be at .00181 $1300 down/cap cost reduction, but I'd like this lower, depends on the Sales price negotiations.
Should come in just under $300. month. That is my goal anyway. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. BTW I have MSD's on my 330e that goes back when I take delivery on the i3.
I am in SoCal 92506, 8.75% tax rate . New calcs with all est fees below. M.S.R.P. $49295 Sale price $45700 before incentives , still in negotiations, about 7% off, but shooting for 8%. Doc/lic fees $600 Appox. Lease Cr. - $7500 OL. code - $1000 Loyalty cr-$2000 24mo/15K 61% RV. With .0005 mark up for no AF, on .00166, less .00035 for 7 MSD's ($2100) I'll be at .00181 $1300 down/cap cost reduction, but I'd like this lower, depends on the Sales price negotiations.
Should come in just under $300. month. That is my goal anyway. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. BTW I have MSD's on my17 330e that goes back when I take delivery on the i3.
I am in SoCal 92506, 8.75% tax rate . New calcs with all est fees below. M.S.R.P. $49295 Sale price $45700 before incentives , still in negotiations, about 7% off, but shooting for 8%. Doc/lic fees $600 Appox. Lease Cr. - $7500 OL. code - $1000 Loyalty cr-$2000 24mo/15K 61% RV. With .0005 mark up for no AF, on .00166, less .00035 for 7 MSD's ($2100) I'll be at .00181 $1300 down/cap cost reduction, but I'd like this lower, depends on the Sales price negotiations.
Should come in just under $300. month. That is my goal anyway. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. BTW I have MSD's on my17 330e that goes back when I take delivery on the i3.
---Bill.
Don't forget the upfront tax on the rebates.. That might be nearly $1000.
Michael, Coming of 30 month i3 lease of a 2015. 1) Could you post the RV and MF for 2018 BMWi3 w/REX for October (Sep if Oct not yet available). 2) Also, Looks like there is an USAA incentive for $10,000??! Is this for purchase and not lease? 3) Any incentive for prior lease? 4)Federal tax credit of $7500 still in play, correct? 5) When negotiating purchase price for lease, I'd take the incentives and credits off MSRP (or dealer's asking price), correct? Thanks, randall
Michael, Coming of 30 month i3 lease of a 2015. 1) Could you post the RV and MF for 2018 BMWi3 w/REX for October (Sep if Oct not yet available). 2) Also, Looks like there is an USAA incentive for $10,000??! Is this for purchase and not lease? 3) Any incentive for prior lease? 4)Federal tax credit of $7500 still in play, correct? 5) When negotiating purchase price for lease, I'd take the incentives and credits off MSRP (or dealer's asking price), correct? Thanks, randall
1. September - .00166 MF; what lease term and miles per year? 2. No info on USAA incentives 3. None that we are aware of 4. Yes 5. Negotiate your best price, then subtract the incentives
Michael, Coming of 30 month i3 lease of a 2015. 1) Could you post the RV and MF for 2018 BMWi3 w/REX for October (Sep if Oct not yet available). 2) Also, Looks like there is an USAA incentive for $10,000??! Is this for purchase and not lease? 3) Any incentive for prior lease? 4)Federal tax credit of $7500 still in play, correct? 5) When negotiating purchase price for lease, I'd take the incentives and credits off MSRP (or dealer's asking price), correct? Thanks, randall
1. September - .00166 MF; what lease term and miles per year? 2. No info on USAA incentives 3. None that we are aware of 4. Yes 5. Negotiate your best price, then subtract the incentives
Also, I've been told by BMW CCA that if the 2nd car is leased by an associate member (Example: Wife) you can collect rebate again.
Yes! Thank you, I called CCA and added my wife as an associate member ($50. /5yr,) so we can get the $1K rebate. Also did BMW rates change, looks like MF is now 0.00182 ? Loyalty is still $2K. ---Bill.
Yes October rates went up to .00182 (4.368%) from .00166 (3.984%) On top of that sad news it looks like i3 inventory is low on i3's, at lease in Southern Cal.
Yes October rates went up to .00182 (4.368%) from .00166 (3.984%) On top of that sad news it looks like i3 inventory is low on i3's, at lease in Southern Cal.
I did notice low inventory, assumed because MY19's start production soon (Nov. I think?) and they will have more range. Range will improve 30+% , the MSRP will probably go up also and I don't need the extra range.
My CA found me a base model w/REx in transit to another dealer. He was able to snag it, it's due at the Oxnard VDC on Oct 5th. I'm hoping because I gave him $1K deposit at the end of Sept my MF rate is locked at .00166 But I can live with the higher .00182 if not.
Yes October rates went up to .00182 (4.368%) from .00166 (3.984%) On top of that sad news it looks like i3 inventory is low on i3's, at lease in Southern Cal.
I did notice low inventory, assumed because MY19's start production soon (Nov. I think?) and they will have more range. Range will improve 30+% , the MSRP will probably go up also and I don't need the extra range.
My CA found me a base model w/REx in transit to another dealer. He was able to snag it, it's due at the Oxnard VDC on Oct 5th. I'm hoping because I gave him $1K deposit at the end of Sept my MF rate is locked at .00166 But I can live with the higher .00182 if not.
BMW allows you to lock in the MF when the order is placed.
BMW allows you to lock in the MF when the order is placed.
Thanks Michaell, Yes, I have done this (rate lock 90 days west coast) with other BMW's that I ordered in the past. Most recently in July, I ordered my 2019 X3 M40i to my specs and took delivey at the end of Aug. But I did not order this car (P1 status) the i3 in question was originally going to another dealer, my CA got it re-routed. He ask for the $1K deposit so the car could not be sold to someone else. I'll let everyone know how this works out, probably next week.
Got it done. MY18, i3 w/REx, 24mo/15K lease, 61%RV=$30070 .$49295 MSRP. .$45135 sales price, about 8.5% dealer disc. -$10500 incentives.= $7500. lease cr, $2k loyalty, $1k UDE OL code. - $1000 cash down. I'll get this back from BMWCCA rebate, wife is now an assc member. $33635 Adjusted Cap cost. . +$660 Lic, Doc, misc. fees. MF .00182 +.00050 bump to waive Acquisition Fee, -.00035 MSD's =.00197
$274./mo. plus 8.75% tax =$298./mo. <MEET MY GOAL! :happyanim: $3000 Drive offs inc $1k down, about $1k tax, first mo. $298, about $675 in fees. Leasehackr score 14.2 years
Anyone have the MF and residual for a 2018 i3 REX and i3s REX ZIP is 95838? if BMW offers 24 month leases could I have the numbers for a 24/10 and 24/12 if not could I have them for a 36/10 and 36/12. Thank you!
Anyone have the MF and residual for a 2018 i3 REX and i3s REX ZIP is 95838? if BMW offers 24 month leases could I have the numbers for a 24/10 and 24/12 if not could I have them for a 36/10 and 36/12. Thank you!
Hi, I am new to the lease process and have few questions regarding the whole thing. I would appreciate all the help that I can get. 1) What are the current residual and MF values for BMW i3; 36 months/ 10,000 miles, CA 94127? 2) My partner has BMW (same address as mine). Can I use the loyalty discount of $2000? 3) Which incentives are taxed? 4) Which incentives are not taxed? 5) Is this a good timing to go for the 2018 model considering that the 2019 model is coming out beginning of November, or should I wait couple of more weeks? Thank you all!
Hi, I am new to the lease process and have few questions regarding the whole thing. I would appreciate all the help that I can get. 1) What are the current residual and MF values for BMW i3; 36 months/ 10,000 miles, CA 94127? 2) My partner has BMW (same address as mine). Can I use the loyalty discount of $2000? 3) Which incentives are taxed? 4) Which incentives are not taxed? 5) Is this a good timing to go for the 2018 model considering that the 2019 model is coming out beginning of November, or should I wait couple of more weeks? Thank you all!
1) .00182 MF and 58% residual 2) Don't know 3) $7500 lease credit 4) Possibly, the state rebate, as you get that directly from the state, afterwards 5) I don't have a crystal ball, and can't tell you what might happen with the 2018 lease programs, but I don't think the arrival of the 2019 will have much effect on the 2018 programs. What will happen will happen.. just like any other month.
Hoping to get the i3 Rex 30/12 and 30/15 mf and residuals in 95838. (Aiming for the california clean air rebate)
I was wondering what to do when a dealer asks if I have something in writing. I.e. Kelley blue book, edmunds, true car list the average sale price off a 55790 msrp i3 Rex as ~47500 - 50100 (11-14) off before incentives, when I asked for 12 percent off a dealer dismissed it and said they can’t do that or if I have something in writing when I said I know the residual, and mf
From what I understand, there’s a 7500 incentive, a 2000 loyalty and a 1000 college grad incentive I can use towards reducing cap cost.
Hoping to get the i3 Rex 30/12 and 30/15 mf and residuals in 95838. (Aiming for the california clean air rebate)
I was wondering what to do when a dealer asks if I have something in writing. I.e. Kelley blue book, edmunds, true car list the average sale price off a 55790 msrp i3 Rex as ~47500 - 50100 (11-14) off before incentives, when I asked for 12 percent off a dealer dismissed it and said they can’t do that or if I have something in writing when I said I know the residual, and mf
From what I understand, there’s a 7500 incentive, a 2000 loyalty and a 1000 college grad incentive I can use towards reducing cap cost.
Thanks in advance y’all
.00182 and 60% / 58% $7500 lease credit
Just stick to your numbers, if you think they are fair.
No need to explain your work; this isn't 9th grade math.
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fleet discount = 500 (not taxed)
drive test credit = 1000 (not taxed)
What qualifies someone for fleet discount? Is there a drive test credit program out there, and where?
Thanks.
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57%/55% residual
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Can you please provide MF / Residual for 2018 i3s, 30 mo, 36 mo, 12k miles/yr
Thanks!
60%/57% residual for 30/36 mo
$7500 lease credit
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Would you please provide MF buy rate, bank fees, etc. and residual for an '18 Rex for 36 mo/10k terms at 94903?
Also, understand that is out of scope, but any idea if the 10K incentive previously available through PG&E but expired 7/31/18 will be coming back?
$7500 lease credit
No info on PG&E
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I am planning to lease a 2018 BMW i3 base model soon. Could you please let me know the money factor and residual value for 30 & 36 months/ 15K year? Is residual value same for all dealers? Is there any incentives besides the $7500 credit?
Thank you
58%/55% residual for 30/36 mo.
$7500 lease credit is it.
Yes, residuals are the same, everywhere.
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This is news to me and it may help the deal I'm working on, IF it is BMWFS that is waiving the $925 AF?
If the dealer is eating it (coming out of dealer profit) then it may not do any good for me to bring it up during negotiations. But if it is waived by BMWNA, then it's potentially a win/win.
Here is what I have so far... Base MY18, i3 REx,
MSRP $49295
Dealer - $3500 about 7% is still in negotiations, I'm shooting for more.
LeaseC- $7500
Loyalty -$2000
MF .00166 less .00035 (7MSD's)=.00131, AF $925, 8.75% tax 24mo/15K should be around $308 mo. inc tax with 1000 down/cap dedution.
If I do the .00206 MF (less MSD's) and no AF payment would drop to $293mo. inc tax.
I am a BMWCCA member already but used my annual rebate on a MY19 X3 M40i.
---Bill.
Acquisition fee waiver bumps MF by .00050
So, 0.00166 + .00050 = 0.00216
It is BMW FS program, the dealer has noting to do with it.
Obviously the dealer can markup the MF if you let them...
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can collect rebate again.
M.S.R.P. $49295
Sale price $45700 before incentives , still in negotiations, about 7% off, but shooting for 8%.
Doc/lic fees $600 Appox.
Lease Cr. - $7500
OL. code - $1000
Loyalty cr-$2000
24mo/15K 61% RV.
With .0005 mark up for no AF, on .00166, less .00035 for 7 MSD's ($2100) I'll be at .00181
$1300 down/cap cost reduction, but I'd like this lower, depends on the Sales price negotiations.
Should come in just under $300. month. That is my goal anyway.
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. BTW I have MSD's on my17 330e that goes back when I take delivery on the i3.
---Bill.
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---Bill.
Sales Tax, $1000
Down pay $1300
Doc & Lic $600
1st mo pay $300
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Coming of 30 month i3 lease of a 2015.
1) Could you post the RV and MF for 2018 BMWi3 w/REX for October (Sep if Oct not yet available).
2) Also, Looks like there is an USAA incentive for $10,000??! Is this for purchase and not lease?
3) Any incentive for prior lease?
4)Federal tax credit of $7500 still in play, correct?
5) When negotiating purchase price for lease, I'd take the incentives and credits off MSRP (or dealer's asking price), correct?
Thanks,
randall
2. No info on USAA incentives
3. None that we are aware of
4. Yes
5. Negotiate your best price, then subtract the incentives
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Additional info..
1) 30 months, 1000mi/mo (30K)
2)
2)
Is this for purchase or lease?
Thx Again!
randall
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Also did BMW rates change, looks like MF is now 0.00182 ?
Loyalty is still $2K.
---Bill.
On top of that sad news it looks like i3 inventory is low on i3's, at lease in Southern Cal.
My CA found me a base model w/REx in transit to another dealer. He was able to snag it, it's due at the Oxnard VDC on Oct 5th.
I'm hoping because I gave him $1K deposit at the end of Sept my MF rate is locked at .00166 But I can live with the higher .00182 if not.
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But I did not order this car (P1 status) the i3 in question was originally going to another dealer, my CA got it re-routed. He ask for the $1K deposit so the car could not be sold to someone else. I'll let everyone know how this works out, probably next week.
---Bill.
.$49295 MSRP.
.$45135 sales price, about 8.5% dealer disc.
-$10500 incentives.= $7500. lease cr, $2k loyalty, $1k UDE OL code.
- $1000 cash down. I'll get this back from BMWCCA rebate, wife is now an assc member.
$33635 Adjusted Cap cost.
. +$660 Lic, Doc, misc. fees.
MF .00182 +.00050 bump to waive Acquisition Fee, -.00035 MSD's =.00197
$274./mo. plus 8.75% tax =$298./mo. <MEET MY GOAL! :happyanim:
$3000 Drive offs inc $1k down, about $1k tax, first mo. $298, about $675 in fees.
Leasehackr score 14.2 years
Thanks for all the help. ---Bill.
Thanks for sharing your deal details with us.
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63%/57% residual for 24/36 mo, 12K/yr
$7500 lease credit
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64%/61%/58% residual for 24/30/36 mo
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1) What are the current residual and MF values for BMW i3; 36 months/ 10,000 miles, CA 94127?
2) My partner has BMW (same address as mine). Can I use the loyalty discount of $2000?
3) Which incentives are taxed?
4) Which incentives are not taxed?
5) Is this a good timing to go for the 2018 model considering that the 2019 model is coming out beginning of November, or should I wait couple of more weeks?
Thank you all!
2) Don't know
3) $7500 lease credit
4) Possibly, the state rebate, as you get that directly from the state, afterwards
5) I don't have a crystal ball, and can't tell you what might happen with the 2018 lease programs, but I don't think the arrival of the 2019 will have much effect on the 2018 programs. What will happen will happen.. just like any other month.
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Hoping to get the i3 Rex 30/12 and 30/15 mf and residuals in 95838. (Aiming for the california clean air rebate)
I was wondering what to do when a dealer asks if I have something in writing. I.e. Kelley blue book, edmunds, true car list the average sale price off a 55790 msrp i3 Rex as ~47500 - 50100 (11-14) off before incentives, when I asked for 12 percent off a dealer dismissed it and said they can’t do that or if I have something in writing when I said I know the residual, and mf
From what I understand, there’s a 7500 incentive, a 2000 loyalty and a 1000 college grad incentive I can use towards reducing cap cost.
Thanks in advance y’all
$7500 lease credit
Just stick to your numbers, if you think they are fair.
No need to explain your work; this isn't 9th grade math.
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