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My links just showed that the people cutting the checks to run the factories don't think it's all about mpg or style or hp. There's a nod there to global warming as well. As long as the scientific journals keep cranking out global warming articles every day about potential climate problems looming over us, some people are going to pay attention and not just make a blanket sweep of the issues under the rug.
Three textile references in a single sentence - sweet. :shades:
Sounds like an appeal for more "funding" to me....without anything but speculation to back it up.
I actually think that some of these guys would attempt to prove that the moon is made of green cheese if someone would just "fund" the "research". It would probably keep them busy for years.
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Local authors take on climate change deniers (Vancouver Free Press)
Good article on funding reform:
Britain's Nobel winner condemns science funding reform (Guardian)
And here's what happens when you don't fund research:
Is Russian science healthy? (Physics Today)
One average volcanic eruption would create more pollution and warming than the last 100 years of human activity.
Now if we could just get Al Gore to place a large cork in the next Volcano before it erupts.
The ingenuity of the human mind will create a pristine environment if we let it. The profit motive is limitless for someone to create a device to scub the atmosphere maybe with a vanilla scent.
Well that may be exaggerated a little until some supervolcano like Yellowstone erupts, but certainly all the ongoing volcanic eruptions, especially subterranean, release much more gases than mankind does. Also there is a tremendous amount of organic matter that decays each year. The numbers are that mankind's total emissions of CO2 are a few percent in addition to natural releases.
In general though you are correct, that people who tend to want centralized control of everyone, are going to look to organizations and causes that allow them to gain control. I believe that many people will use whatever means (embellishing the likelihood of a theory) to get laws passed to gain wealth and power for their political and personal gain.
It's a version of the thought-process whereby some smart tribe-member realized that he could convince others that he had knowledge of the forces of nature and the gods, and was a witch-doctor. This thus allowed the witch-doctor a place of prominence and no-manual-work life, leeching off others. GW cultists similarly are using the unknown and unproven, to scare and control a basically uneducated (on the changes and power of nature) press and populace, to control them.
I'm sure you see this genetic flaw in people everyday - people who aren't content with just running their own lives, but have to butt in to everyone else's affairs and try and run other's lives. The words - bully and politician, come to mind.
Cough China: 10 Million Cars Built cough.
"Eight models, including BYD's F3 dual-mode electric car, have received production permits, paving the way for China to have 500,000 green cars on the roads by 2011."
Those are amongst the worst.
Americans No Longer Swallowing Global Warming Dogma
The deniers making headway? Perhaps.....
"Save the Planet: A new book states that if you want to save the planet, it's time to swap that pet cat or dog for a rabbit or a chicken.
New Zealand professors Robert and Brenda Vale write in their new book, "Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living," that keeping a medium-sized dog has the same ecological impact as driving a Toyota Land Cruiser more than 6,000 miles/year. They say a cat causes the same environmental impact as driving a Volkswagen."
Do you think Cap n' Trade CO2 credits are going to have to be applied to the average American pet owner, with environmental problems like that? :P I can just see fathers all over the country having to explain to their 5 year old sons and daughters, that they can't have a cat or kitten because this brilliant man Al Gore and his friends believe Spot or Kitty are destroying the world.
All you enviro types with a pet dog are not helping the GW situation.
This is from the Company that Warren Buffett has bought 10% of. They have a very bright and committed to success CEO. One would have to be burying their head in the sand to avoid learning about them. Green may be a good thing to this SE Arizona padre.
AFAIK the BO $7,500 "green car" rebate applies to the 2010 BYD e6.
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Chinese Automaker Investment Pays Off for Buffett (AutoObserver)
I still don't know how all those batteries are going to get recharged without making the sky look like a bumper car arena with all the power lines gridding everything up. Until I can charge one off the grid, I guess I'm not going to get too thrilled about eCars.
There will be an outlet for you. Pardon the possible pun. I am very interested in the 2010 BYD e6 but I'm one of those that will wait and watch how others are doing with these all-electric cars before I buy.
My wife and I have put 45,000 miles on our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS since March of 2007. But those are 45,000 gently added-on miles, friends. This car could last us another 8 years...at least. :P
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Nissan Schedules Leaf EV National Tour, With Test Drive Opportunities (Green Car Advisor)
(you're giving me great segues for posting site content - keep it up. :shades: )
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People will need to turn vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities of greenhouse gases.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
They could cut GHG a lot by denying oxygen to every politician and their lackey scientists.
Myth of Cooling Globe shattered by AP-sponsored ‘blind’ test
Researchers claiming to have found the Earth could be entering a cooling cycle may have gotten their facts wrong, according to a recent independent study.
The Associated Press commissioned a study from independent statistics professors to analyze figures without being told what they represented.
University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego, along with David Peterson, retired from Duke University, Mack Shelley, director of public policy and administration at Iowa State University and Edward Melnick from New York University were asked to look at sets of numbers pertaining to climate trends.
Each professor was given two spreadsheets. One contained annual global temperature changes from 1880 to 2009 obtained from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
The second spreadsheet contained annual temperature changes from 1979-2009 taken from scientists at the University of Alabama.
After their analysis of the raw data, none of the experts reported a decline in temperatures over time.
In an October 9 BBC News story, climate correspondent Paul Hudson noted that the warmest year on record was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
The story goes on to state that no climate increase has been measured over the past 11 years, although emissions of carbon dioxide continue to rise.
The BBC story cited experts who claim that although the world has gone through decades of rapid warmth during the 20th Century, the earth operates on natural climate cycles, which man has no control over.
Additionally, experts have long debated whether the spikes in warming have been attributed to an increase in the Sun’s energy and that warming causes a rise in carbon dioxide levels, rather than the other way around.
"If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," Grego told the AP.
"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."
The independent analysts found that there was no significant drop in climate (temperatures) in the past 10 years.
So the confusion continues......
Isn't that exactly what the opponents to global warming intended?
Let's not get carried away here. Paul Hudson is actually the BBC Weatherman for Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire..........an area that you could lose in most US States. To call him a "Climate Consultant" is stretching credibility more than just a little. Even the local news anchor man takes him to task most evenings over his far from accurate daily forecasts.
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These were just two spreadsheets given to a couple of math guys who were told "analyze this using statistical analysis and tell us what you find."
Can't get more unbiased than that.
The burden of proof is not to prove that the Earth is cooling; the burden of proof is that the Earth is warming; AND that the warming is man-made.
I think the article is intentionally ignoring that what was statistically analyzed is not the answer to the question of man-made GHG's and global-warming.
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Why would they change from GW to CC if the weather data did not make them look stupid? So warmer or cooler it is all Man's fault. I ain't buying into the lies. Looks like the UN is backing down on their big climate summit plans also.
OOH OOH OOH I can find it...that's it right there hanging over the burning tires. Gee, CO2 levels and soot are off the chart too. The end must be near for the polar bear.
Send money. :P
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And he drives an electric car.
He's sort of the Anti-Gore.
No, but if that one point passes the standard for what is acceptable as an environment where an official reading can be taken, it does say the standards are awful, and that there well might be many more like that. If you go in a restaurant and see 1 cockroach, you don't suspect there are more and other problems?
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/winter/2009-10-29-autumn-snowstorm_N.htm
Major snowstorms in the middle of the Fall season are certainly not an indicator that there is any warming, and that if there is warming, it is definitely NEEDED. The day when it is too warm to snow where I live, is the day I'll be happy. I would be thrilled if it never got below 32F in the Northeast (sorry skiiers and snowmobilers). A warmup to a nice 65-95F climate would be great.
"DENVER — A slow-moving autumn storm"
Just a storm. Not climate change-related.
I thought it was 85 there? I was just packing the car.... :shades:
Like I have stated before on this forum: neither every little COLD SNAP nor every little HEAT WAVE has anything AT ALL to do with Global Warming/Climate Change/Whatever The Current Nomenclature Is.
Regardless of whether we EVER determine man's impact on global climate, these things are true:
1. Storms, unusually hot and/or cold ones, will ALWAYS pop up at odd times.
2. Every heat wave is not proof of anything.
3. Every cold snap is not proof of anything.
4. Every Category 5 hurricane is not IN ITSELF proof of anything.
5. Every time BumFrick, Idaho, has a few day of below- or above-average temps, THAT in itself is proof of nothing.
People who come on this board and are fond of posting "Record Low Temps in BLAH BLAH BLAH" and expecting that to score a point with anyone with a brain need to reconsider that tactic. It's old, worn-out, and NOT APPLICABLE.
I usually post stories about hotter-than-normal temps in an area (weather, not climate) when someone posts about a colder-than-normal temp event, just to balance out the forum.
Neither of us is making a valid point regarding Man-Made Climate Change when we do that.
The Great Smog of London (BBC)
In weather news, Daily High Temperature Tied Atop Grandfather Mountain (goblueridge.net). And it's still "markedly warmer" in North Florida.
If the price of electricity and oil continues to rise I would expect more people to heat with wood and or coal. Pick your poison. I have gotten used to clean air since leaving Anchorage and all the wood smoke. I don't want to have the government push us back into the dark ages with their ignorance.
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Funny thing, bamboo bats are hitting the market now too.
You knew I'd find a link, right? A warmer climate means (in theory anyway) that more beetles that attack the ash trees, and the wood grows softer too.
Baseball Bats and Global Warming (Accuweather)
Cars and freeways and congestion at every turn. You know when the hotel shuttle drivers are taking quick, snappy, hurried shortcuts that you're in a large rat race.
Wouldn't be interested in living there. And the amount of cars in that city is not doing anyone there any good. Long term. GW...from the car's exhaust...need full-scale attack of all-electric transportation there, pronto. :shades:
Using electrical energy to keep them charged from one of Georgia's coal-powered electrical generation plants, no less.
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I think you are getting spoiled out there in Wilcox. I hate heavy traffic. I avoid at all cost.
I must say the city of Tucson street planners have done a pretty good job designing their streets so that traffic moves continuously. Seattle traffic is horrible compared to a city of twice the people, Tucson.
I don't know of any other automobile propulsion method that will work any better than electrical, though hydrogen is an option with only water as a byproduct. But how to develop those other methods efficiently and cost-effectively is going to be a real problem.
We need to wean off of dino-oil, though. Seems Portland and San Francisco are in a war right now to build the best all-electrical car infrastructure. Portland's mayor is literally on fire with excitement for electric propulsion. Portland is always progressively thinking, they're going ga-ga over it.
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My biggest concern is practicality. That always wins out in my search for a vehicle. I have it figured that CA and the Feds will bugger it up some way or another. They will not be denied their gas taxes without a fight. They want to look green without losing any green. The little guy always gets to sacrifice while the elite cruise in their yachts, Gulfstreams and limos.
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Seattle traffic may be worse than Los Angeles. Both cesspools of the urban age.
Beijing's first snow of season 'artificially induced'
BEIJING (AFP) - – Chinese meteorologists covered Beijing in snow Sunday after seeding clouds to bring winter weather to the capital in an effort to combat a lingering drought, state media reported.
The unusually early snow blanketed the capital from Sunday morning and kept falling for half the day, helped by temperatures as low as minus 2 Celsius (29 Fahrenheit) and strong winds from the north, Xinhua news agency reported.
Besides falling in the northeastern provinces of Liaoning and Jilin and the northern province of Hebei, the eastern port city of Tianjin also got its first snow of the autumn, the report said.
"We wont miss any opportunity of artificial precipitation since Beijing is suffering from the lingering drought," the report quoted Zhang Qiang, head of the Beijing Weather Modification Office, as saying.
Chinese meteorologists have for years sought to make rain by injecting special chemicals into clouds.
Although the technique often gets results, a drought in the north of the country has continued for over a decade.
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/afp/20091101/tap-china-weather-beijing-snow-8d4ea94.htm- l
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog5/?p=48
http://www.wildershares.com/pdf/Solar%20Power%20for%20a%20better%20Solution.pdf