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Having been laid off a couple of times, I'm certainly familiar with the sharp end of the stick.
But, I did have one employee who was looking for a substantial raise - he lived in Mexico and was hired to perform training for Central and South America, which he did well for the first 5 of 6 years of his tenure.
Then, that business dried up and he started spending more time in the US and Canada teaching our clients there.
When you compared his salary to that of the US based instructors, it came up woefully short. I worked with our HR partner to convince our management that we would lose him if we didn't attempt to match salaries (this was after we had laid off some of our instructors for cost cutting purposes).
He got the raise, but, sadly, ended up leaving the company not long after I was laid off.
Software transitions are always fun. My entire company (10,000+ employees) is undergoing a monthlong hiring freeze while HR transitions to new software.
So many questions:
If you can get by for a month without hiring anyone, why do you have so many people in HR supposedly doing that?
Is the company supposed to serve the needs of the HR department, or the other way around?
Full disclosure: I have a very low opinion of HR as a support service. For my entire work career every one of those depts I encountered just caused problems rather than solved them.
And they are totally on the company’s side not the employee’s.
I like when a company buys out your company and tells you not to worry, all the jobs will still remain, we need everyone. Once they move in they start to get rid of any duplications. That is when HR comes into play......execs don't have to do the dirty work.
I have been canned from 6 jobs.....can anyone top that? The first time I was canned I was 19 years old working in a warehouse picking orders. The guys went out for lunch on payday, which was every other Friday. When we got back there were about 8 in line to get our cards time stamped. I was near the end of the line and one guy did my card - I didn't ask him to do it. The supervisor saw him do it and fired me. I went up to the main office and asked to speak to the president. I explained that I was a student completing two courses and would be going back to school full time in 3 months. He reinstated me. It did teach me I didn't want to work in a warehouse. btw....that was before computers. It was a warehouse for hardware stores. To do inventory you walked around with a desk and counted inventory....like it could be 1053 screws, 546 bolts etc., this was before they did reordering when you reached a minimum. Mind numbing work!!!!!!
I always dreaded being unemployed so I tended to stay at jobs longer than I should have and usually only quit to go immediately to the next one.
Paper route: quit. Dishwasher at Howard Johnson’s: quit before I died of heat stroke. Lawn mower: retired to go to collage. Sandwich maker: quit for the next job. Car wash operator: quit because I was now college edgumacated. Youth Counselor: temp. job with the Youth Corp. Director of social work services: federal funding ran out. Outreach worker for Food Stamp program: left for next job. Social worker for a health care company: fired because of my refusal to participate in some questionable activities but that’s another story. Farmer: my longest running job. Retired. School bus driver: retired Mobility specialist (car jockey): current and most fun job. May only retire feet first.😅
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Software transitions are always fun. My entire company (10,000+ employees) is undergoing a monthlong hiring freeze while HR transitions to new software.
So many questions:
If you can get by for a month without hiring anyone, why do you have so many people in HR supposedly doing that?
Is the company supposed to serve the needs of the HR department, or the other way around?
Full disclosure: I have a very low opinion of HR as a support service. For my entire work career every one of those depts I encountered just caused problems rather than solved them.
And they are totally on the company’s side not the employee’s.
I like when a company buys out your company and tells you not to worry, all the jobs will still remain, we need everyone. Once they move in they start to get rid of any duplications. That is when HR comes into play......execs don't have to do the dirty work.
———————————————— True, but that only applies to the execs who didn’t get canned.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Wasted another wad of money today. New bedroom set arrived. A splurge for getting old but still grinding away at work. Got 39 years out of the old set so probably time. That stuff was parceled
Out to the 2 guest rooms. And at least our recently purchased king sized bed is no long just sitting one the floor! On the plus side, it does
Look nice. Still shouldn’t have spent so much since could have just gotten a platform bed and
Kept the rest of the pieces but hey, it’s only money’
Still waiting for the dining room hutch to arrive then we are done with big expensive purchases. I hope. Until the wedding and grandkid !
@driver100 said:
I have been canned from 6 jobs.....can anyone top that?
Hmmm… that would take some thought. It happens all the time in advertising as clients come and go, so agencies are constantly adjusting their staffing.
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@oldfarmer50 At least you left most of those jobs voluntarily. I actually got canned, mostly because of downsizing, but at least one was a personality clash. I was manager of a bookstore part of a large chain. My district manager was a jerk who gave me more things to do than I could possibly do, so he canned me. I talked to the vice president and he said he couldn't reverse a decision made by the D.M. About a year later I saw that D.M. stocking shelves in a grocery store...ha ha. And I got a great job that didn't pay a lot but I was a sales rep for a major book publisher, and I got the job mostly because of the excellent reference the vice president of the bookstore chain gave me.
I know others commented a while ago but I saw a Tesla Pick-Up truck live and in person today, wow, are those things ever ugly. It looks like a part that fell off of some kind of stealth jet:
I've seen them in a red, a strong blue, a light silver, a dark silver..., and none of them appeal to me. I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy. LOL
I've seen them in a red, a strong blue, a light silver, a dark silver..., and none of them appeal to me. I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy. LOL
———————————————— I agree but looks don’t have to look good to the masses they just have to get looks from the masses. Something like there is no such thing as bad publicity,
jmonroe
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I've seen them in a red, a strong blue, a light silver, a dark silver..., and none of them appeal to me. I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy. LOL
———————————————— I agree but looks don’t have to look good to the masses they just have to get looks from the masses. Something like there is no such thing as bad publicity,
jmonroe
The photo doesn't do it justice, it looks way worse when you see it in real life.
You are partly right JMonroe, they are selling well in the EV market, although it is a small market, less than 5% of the total vehicle market. Average cost is about $116000. You'd have drive a lot to get savings from not using gas!
I've seen them in a red, a strong blue, a light silver, a dark silver..., and none of them appeal to me. I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy. LOL
———————————————— I agree but looks don’t have to look good to the masses they just have to get looks from the masses. Something like there is no such thing as bad publicity,
jmonroe
The photo doesn't do it justice, it looks way worse when you see it in real life.
You are partly right JMonroe, they are selling well in the EV market, although it is a small market, less than 5% of the total vehicle market. Average cost is about $116000. You'd have drive a lot to get savings from not using gas!
———————————————— I doubt very much the owners are concerned the least bit about gas savings. It’s all about making a statement. More to the point…I can afford it, can you?
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I've seen them in a red, a strong blue, a light silver, a dark silver..., and none of them appeal to me. I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy. LOL
———————————————— I agree but looks don’t have to look good to the masses they just have to get looks from the masses. Something like there is no such thing as bad publicity,
jmonroe
The photo doesn't do it justice, it looks way worse when you see it in real life.
You are partly right JMonroe, they are selling well in the EV market, although it is a small market, less than 5% of the total vehicle market. Average cost is about $116000. You'd have drive a lot to get savings from not using gas!
———————————————— I doubt very much the owners are concerned the least bit about gas savings. It’s all about making a statement. More to the point…I can afford it, can you?
jmonroe
True, the people who buy them probably never put anything in the cargo area....might get it dirty!!!!!
I wonder if some folks buy them on speculation that if discontinued the value might go up?
I was passed on I75 heading to Cincinnati two weekends ago by one. I think it was the blue. It was unusual. I hate to say it but it reminds me of the Pontiac Aztek. I don't want to besmirch the Aztec even thought I'm no longer a Mary Barra/GM fan.
Just for old times sake, here's a gas pump fire last week at an area Krogers store. Truck on fire. I'll bet some underwear needed changing after that event!
Claims on discussion that no attendant is at the pump area like other Krogers, so the fire wasn't put on alarm as quickly as it might have been. I see a booth for an attendant; don't know if they've gone to no onsite monitor.
Triggered the fire retardant system. Theory by one poster is that the person was pumping gasoline into a can on the bed. The gasoline flowing produces a static charge and with a discharge just right, flaming gas. Works like a van de Graaf generator. Always put cans on the ground.
I would guesstimate that 99% of gas stations locally are self serve w/o an attendant aside from a person inside the convenience store attached manning the register. We don’t have fires at the pumps.
I would guesstimate that 99% of gas stations locally are self serve w/o an attendant aside from a person inside the convenience store attached manning the register. We don’t have fires at the pumps.
I thought someone had to be around in case a physically challenged person needed gas. We have friends who are both in wheel chairs. It may be a Florida thing, they love being in Florida because almost everything is wheelchair accessible.
@driver100 said:
I have been canned from 6 jobs.....can anyone top that?
Hmmm… that would take some thought. It happens all the time in advertising as clients come and go, so agencies are constantly adjusting their staffing.
Nope. Only lost 3 real jobs. All the others I quit before it got worse. I definitely would have lost at least 2 more if I hadn’t pulled the trigger first. And I survived countless layoffs in between.
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I wonder if some folks buy them on speculation that if discontinued the value might go up? I hate to say it but it reminds me of the Pontiac Aztek. I don't want to besmirch the Aztec even thought I'm no longer a Mary Barra/GM fan.
It seems people want something different and they want to be on the leading edge. They are fast with lots of HP, and lots of room inside. They are supposed to go 325 miles on a charge, and it takes 45 minutes to charge to 80%, which I assume gets you about 250 miles. It might work for some people for certain situations..... I kind of agree with the Aztec comparison, mainly because both are trying to look edgy and futuristic.
Aztek - classic case of involving a focus group of consumers AFTER it's too late to make major changes to the styling. I'm sure the marketers came back with something mealy-mouthed like "it's polarizing" rather than risk their jobs by telling upper management that it would flop.
Just for old times sake, here's a gas pump fire last week at an area Krogers store. Truck on fire. I'll bet some underwear needed changing after that event!
Claims on discussion that no attendant is at the pump area like other Krogers, so the fire wasn't put on alarm as quickly as it might have been. I see a booth for an attendant; don't know if they've gone to no onsite monitor.
Triggered the fire retardant system. Theory by one poster is that the person was pumping gasoline into a can on the bed. The gasoline flowing produces a static charge and with a discharge just right, flaming gas. Works like a van de Graaf generator. Always put cans on the ground.
I guess the intention was to gt clicks. And, I did click on it. So, job well done.
I have a friend who's my age that does the same thing. He will post to social media what he has for breakfast, pictures of him running errands, eating meals, etc.....every single day.
I guess the intention was to gt clicks. And, I did click on it. So, job well done.
I have a friend who's my age that does the same thing. He will post to social media what he has for breakfast, pictures of him running errands, eating meals, etc.....every single day.
Don't get it.
If they are monetizing it .. I get it. If not well … I don’t
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I guess the intention was to gt clicks. And, I did click on it. So, job well done.
I have a friend who's my age that does the same thing. He will post to social media what he has for breakfast, pictures of him running errands, eating meals, etc.....every single day.
Don't get it.
Well, you see, you aren’t vacuous enough to post on TicTok so of course you don’t get it.
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stations near me all seem to have some sort of convenience store connected to them. And the only people I have ever seen working there are running the store. They do have monitors for the gas, and you can go in to pay case if you want. But zero chance they are coming outside to put it in for you!
stations near me all seem to have some sort of convenience store connected to them. And the only people I have ever seen working there are running the store. They do have monitors for the gas, and you can go in to pay case if you want. But zero chance they are coming outside to put it in for you!
I guess the intention was to gt clicks. And, I did click on it. So, job well done.
I have a friend who's my age that does the same thing. He will post to social media what he has for breakfast, pictures of him running errands, eating meals, etc.....every single day.
Don't get it.
If they are monetizing it .. I get it. If not well … I don’t
I’m so old I remember the halcyon early days of Twitter when people used to post not only pictures of meals either in restos or at home but also, candy bars, drinks cans, or whatever they were consuming, you name it. I think I liked that a lot better than what it and its Bluesky alternative are now that they became political sites.
I have been canned from 6 jobs.....can anyone top that?
The first time I was canned I was 19 years old working in a warehouse picking orders. The guys went out for lunch on payday, which was every other Friday. When we got back there were about 8 in line to get our cards time stamped. I was near the end of the line and one guy did my card - I didn't ask him to do it.
The supervisor saw him do it and fired me.
I went up to the main office and asked to speak to the president. I explained that I was a student completing two courses and would be going back to school full time in 3 months.
He reinstated me. It did teach me I didn't want to work in a warehouse.
btw....that was before computers. It was a warehouse for hardware stores. To do inventory you walked around with a desk and counted inventory....like it could be 1053 screws, 546 bolts etc., this was before they did reordering when you reached a minimum. Mind numbing work!!!!!!
Don't they usually do inventory for things like screws, nails and the like by weight?
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Having been laid off a couple of times, I'm certainly familiar with the sharp end of the stick.
But, I did have one employee who was looking for a substantial raise - he lived in Mexico and was hired to perform training for Central and South America, which he did well for the first 5 of 6 years of his tenure.
Then, that business dried up and he started spending more time in the US and Canada teaching our clients there.
When you compared his salary to that of the US based instructors, it came up woefully short. I worked with our HR partner to convince our management that we would lose him if we didn't attempt to match salaries (this was after we had laid off some of our instructors for cost cutting purposes).
He got the raise, but, sadly, ended up leaving the company not long after I was laid off.
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Once they move in they start to get rid of any duplications.
That is when HR comes into play......execs don't have to do the dirty work.
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The first time I was canned I was 19 years old working in a warehouse picking orders. The guys went out for lunch on payday, which was every other Friday. When we got back there were about 8 in line to get our cards time stamped. I was near the end of the line and one guy did my card - I didn't ask him to do it.
The supervisor saw him do it and fired me.
I went up to the main office and asked to speak to the president. I explained that I was a student completing two courses and would be going back to school full time in 3 months.
He reinstated me. It did teach me I didn't want to work in a warehouse.
btw....that was before computers. It was a warehouse for hardware stores. To do inventory you walked around with a desk and counted inventory....like it could be 1053 screws, 546 bolts etc., this was before they did reordering when you reached a minimum. Mind numbing work!!!!!!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Paper route: quit.
Dishwasher at Howard Johnson’s: quit before I died of heat stroke.
Lawn mower: retired to go to collage.
Sandwich maker: quit for the next job.
Car wash operator: quit because I was now college edgumacated.
Youth Counselor: temp. job with the Youth Corp.
Director of social work services: federal funding ran out.
Outreach worker for Food Stamp program: left for next job.
Social worker for a health care company: fired because of my refusal to participate in some questionable activities but that’s another story.
Farmer: my longest running job. Retired.
School bus driver: retired
Mobility specialist (car jockey): current and most fun job. May only retire feet first.😅
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Chnage Lawn mower to Landscaper.
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True, but that only applies to the execs who didn’t get canned.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Wasted another wad of money today. New bedroom set arrived. A splurge for getting old but still grinding away at work. Got 39 years out of the old set so probably time. That stuff was parceled
Out to the 2 guest rooms. And at least our recently purchased king sized bed is no long just sitting one the floor! On the plus side, it does
Look nice. Still shouldn’t have spent so much since could have just gotten a platform bed and
Kept the rest of the pieces but hey, it’s only money’
Still waiting for the dining room hutch to arrive then we are done with big expensive purchases. I hope. Until the wedding and grandkid !
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Do you think you have enough dishes to last that long? If I were you I would have bought the Maytag they had in stock.
jmonroe
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Hmmm… that would take some thought. It happens all the time in advertising as clients come and go, so agencies are constantly adjusting their staffing.
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Not that I'm surprised
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I see the owners standing next to them with the doors open for the curious to inspect the interiors, looking as proud as could be. I would be a little embarrassed at having spent so much money on that thing when I could have had a Chevy.
LOL
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I agree but looks don’t have to look good to the masses they just have to get looks from the masses. Something like there is no such thing as bad publicity,
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
You are partly right JMonroe, they are selling well in the EV market, although it is a small market, less than 5% of the total vehicle market. Average cost is about $116000. You'd have drive a lot to get savings from not using gas!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I doubt very much the owners are concerned the least bit about gas savings. It’s all about making a statement. More to the point…I can afford it, can you?
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I was passed on I75 heading to Cincinnati two weekends ago by one. I think it was the blue.
It was unusual. I hate to say it but it reminds me of the Pontiac Aztek. I don't want to besmirch the Aztec even thought I'm no longer a Mary Barra/GM fan.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I'll bet some underwear needed changing after that event!
Claims on discussion that no attendant is at the pump area like other Krogers, so the fire
wasn't put on alarm as quickly as it might have been. I see a booth for an attendant; don't know if they've gone to no onsite monitor.
Triggered the fire retardant system.
Theory by one poster is that the person was pumping gasoline into a can on the bed. The gasoline flowing produces a static charge and with a discharge just right, flaming gas. Works like a
van de Graaf generator. Always put cans on the ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dayton/comments/1grzwfm/kroger_gas_station_fire_in_beavercreek/?rdt=43690
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Nope. Only lost 3 real jobs. All the others I quit before it got worse. I definitely would have lost at least 2 more if I hadn’t pulled the trigger first. And I survived countless layoffs in between.
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They are supposed to go 325 miles on a charge, and it takes 45 minutes to charge to 80%, which I assume gets you about 250 miles.
It might work for some people for certain situations.....
I kind of agree with the Aztec comparison, mainly because both are trying to look edgy and futuristic.
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That settles it. My next car is going to be an EV. Just hope I don’t have to get in line behind @driver100.
jmonroe
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AMG sent me a 2025 calendar; now I just need to find a place to hang it- since as of January 3, 2025 I no longer have an office.
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I see things like this and people (young and old) seem to have a need to post every little thing they do, and very little of it is smart.
https://www.dailydot.com/news/buick-engine-oil-top-off/
I guess the intention was to gt clicks. And, I did click on it. So, job well done.
I have a friend who's my age that does the same thing. He will post to social media what he has for breakfast, pictures of him running errands, eating meals, etc.....every single day.
Don't get it.
If they are monetizing it .. I get it. If not well … I don’t
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Ugh - finally added a keypad to the garage opener. Took all of ten minutes including mounting it to the wall.
Now the Homelink in my truck no longer works and my Mom’s clicker doesn’t either. The wife’s Mercedes Homelink still does.
I guess I have to do them all over again in a row. Not today.
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Why do I want to turn this into a “bend over, I’ll show you” joke?😇
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The basement is my first choice, since my bride said that the family room and the dining room weren’t options.
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Well, you could post pone retirement if you need wall space.
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If they are monetizing it .. I get it. If not well … I don’t
I’m so old I remember the halcyon early days of Twitter when people used to post not only pictures of meals either in restos or at home but also, candy bars, drinks cans, or whatever they were consuming, you name it. I think I liked that a lot better than what it and its Bluesky alternative are now that they became political sites.
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2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Don't they usually do inventory for things like screws, nails and the like by weight?
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