Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

stickguy

suydam said:

Don’t most cars have adaptive cruise now? Our Kia Sportage does!

depends on the car. Often requires a higher trim level. The year I bought my Maverick there was a tech package with it that I did not order. new ones, the Lariat comes standard with it.

corvette

My 2022 Maverick didn't come with cruise control, much less radar cruise. I added OEM (regular) cruise by disassembling the steering wheel, replacing the switches, and reprogramming the computer.

Michaell

suydam said:

Don’t most cars have adaptive cruise now? Our Kia Sportage does!

So does our 10 year old Subaru!

benjaminh

stickguy said:

I finally came up with a good reason to start wheeling and dealing cars. My right knee hurt today!

When I drive a long time without a break I get a pain in my right knee. Eventually works itself out but I limp around a bit for a while until it gets better. But using cruise control can help so I can move my leg around instead of keeping it bent on the gas pedal. Unfortunately, on the roads I drive longer stretches on regular cruise is pretty much useless since I have to keep hovering over the brake pedal at all times.

so the answer is, get a car with fancy adaptive laser cruise. Hey, I'm old and comfort is important! The wife has creaky knees also so she is sympathetic to that issue. I just won't mention that the RDX has it. Will just point out how she often has issues with Apple CarPlay glitching on her.

That does seem like a reason to trade-in your Maverick, which lacks adaptive cruise control.

And if the CarPlay doesn't work well in the RDX that's potentially a reason to trade that one in as well.

What's on your shopping list?

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Apparently, Dad's Ranger is still having transmission issues following the replacement of the valve body and other parts. He's basically issued a "final warning" and will take it to the dealer one last time before getting rid of it. The kicker--he wants another Ranger, which still has the same transmission.

I encouraged him to strongly look at the Tacoma, as well as considering the Colorado/Canyon.

Couldn’t he do a lemon law buyback?

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

I was at a friend's house last night and I had a chance to check out his Superformance 427 Cobra. It's the identical twin of this car. Gorgeous.

Those reproductions are worth a fortune, the originals are worth a real big fortune.

ab348

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

I finally came up with a good reason to start wheeling and dealing cars. My right knee hurt today!

When I drive a long time without a break I get a pain in my right knee. Eventually works itself out but I limp around a bit for a while until it gets better. But using cruise control can help so I can move my leg around instead of keeping it bent on the gas pedal. Unfortunately, on the roads I drive longer stretches on regular cruise is pretty much useless since I have to keep hovering over the brake pedal at all times.

so the answer is, get a car with fancy adaptive laser cruise. Hey, I'm old and comfort is important! The wife has creaky knees also so she is sympathetic to that issue. I just won't mention that the RDX has it. Will just point out how she often has issues with Apple CarPlay glitching on her.

That does seem like a reason to trade-in your Maverick, which lacks adaptive cruise control.

And if the CarPlay doesn't work well in the RDX that's potentially a reason to trade that one in as well.

What's on your shopping list?

Given his knee issue, maybe he should start shopping for one of those electric scooters old guys like me ride (not yet, anyway!).

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

ab348 said:

Who knew that selling car care products and accessories could be so profitable? I used to keep up with the wash/wax/protectant debates you would find online where those who cared obsessively about such things would talk about "the best!" products to use for whatever purpose. I don't remember many Griot products being mentioned in those discussions; it was usually even more obscure stuff. I did get their catalog once and seem to recall being impressed by the price points they were asking. Stuff wasn't cheap, which I guess explains how the founder could afford to buy 6-figure cars for his collection.

The companies are selling the sizzle via the advertising. The steak is pretty much the same as the others. Buyers pay for the advertising that makes them feel they're buying a special product?

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That’s pretty much what I just said in the post above yours, so it must be true. Why couldn’t I think of things like that?

jmonroe

Sorry. Didn't mean to step on your post.

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Don’t worry I didn’t take it like that. Just commenting that I must be right. Either that or old farts think alike. Probably because we’ve seen a lot of new snake oil in our days.

jmonroe

28firefighter

Potential surprise and additional punch pending. I’m not giving more deets until I know it’s for sure.

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

Potential surprise and additional punch pending. I’m not giving more deets until I know it’s for sure.

They’re totaling the VW?

28firefighter

I can’t comment on what’s happening with the VW right now because it’s becoming a thing - other than to say there is no parts anywhere.

sda

28firefighter said:

I can’t comment on what’s happening with the VW right now because it’s becoming a thing - other than to say there is no parts anywhere.

Hard to believe as it is built in Mexico and is a volume seller. I can only imagine a sad event should I need body parts for the Arteon. Won’t go there.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

I was at a friend's house last night and I had a chance to check out his Superformance 427 Cobra. It's the identical twin of this car. Gorgeous.

Those reproductions are worth a fortune, the originals are worth a real big fortune.

other than being silver with black stripes that is exactly what my BIL has. If that car doesn't scare you at some level, you are probably dead. Pretty sure he can break the rear tires loose in 4th gear without much effort. somehow 600ish HP in a 2200 pound car can be hard to control! and of course, zero nannies on it.

corvette

oldfarmer50 said:

Couldn’t he do a lemon law buyback?

No, it's 4+ years old.

stickguy

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

I finally came up with a good reason to start wheeling and dealing cars. My right knee hurt today!

When I drive a long time without a break I get a pain in my right knee. Eventually works itself out but I limp around a bit for a while until it gets better. But using cruise control can help so I can move my leg around instead of keeping it bent on the gas pedal. Unfortunately, on the roads I drive longer stretches on regular cruise is pretty much useless since I have to keep hovering over the brake pedal at all times.

so the answer is, get a car with fancy adaptive laser cruise. Hey, I'm old and comfort is important! The wife has creaky knees also so she is sympathetic to that issue. I just won't mention that the RDX has it. Will just point out how she often has issues with Apple CarPlay glitching on her.

That does seem like a reason to trade-in your Maverick, which lacks adaptive cruise control.

And if the CarPlay doesn't work well in the RDX that's potentially a reason to trade that one in as well.

What's on your shopping list?

nothing specific. more of a concept at this point.

but I think my wife may be having mental issues. Or maybe had too much fun on our just ended vacation. We were at the market today and I pointed out a nice looking Boxster and we agreed that the owner should not be allowed to keep it and they should give it to me to take care of (someone did the cardinal sin of parking that beautiful car right next to the cart return. hurt me in my soul to see it). Though she did express concern that she would not be able to get in and out of it. Same comment about the nice C8 Vette parked outside the shore house last week.

I mentioned it being one of my dream cars, and unprovoked she said if I want one, we could afford it, so just go buy one and could leave her car outside. I almost drove up the curb at that comment. Then she said could just sell hers until I pointed out she was going to be going to our kids house to babysit 1 day a week so needed something to drive (though if she gave it a chance should be easily able to drive my truck).

now I don't know what to do but going to take advantage to stop and look at some options! If nothing else, can test fit a few things to see what would even be a potential option.

corvette

Took the Maverick to Patoka Lake and did a brief hike there. It was extremely hot and humid and I called it quits pretty quickly. It's a nice park, though, will definitely be back when the weather is more agreeable. I don't have a bike, but they also appeared to have a very nice paved bike/walking trail. On the way back, found a section of Corydon Pike with some nice, hilly hairpins. The OEM Continental tires were screaming for mercy, and I caught up to a motorcycle rider. Stopped at the Silver Hills Historical Trail in New Albany before making my way home.

benjaminh

This one's an automatic, but...



https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/46b1254b-ca5b-49cd-abe7-4c33c3d958be/?attribution_type=se_rp

kyfdx

This one is always for sale..

benjaminh

kyfdx said:

This one is always for sale..

Very nice! How much? What year? Auto or manual?

stickguy

kyfdx said:

This one is always for sale..

yours I assume?

stickguy

benjaminh said:

This one's an automatic, but...



https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/46b1254b-ca5b-49cd-abe7-4c33c3d958be/?attribution_type=se_rp

love yellow. but there will not be an AT sports car in my garage.

stickguy

I do want to go look at a BRZ. Too bad I don't know anyone that is likely to have one for sale soon.

kyfdx

benjaminh said:

kyfdx said:

This one is always for sale..

Very nice! How much? What year? Auto or manual?

It’s an ‘07 Cayman S
Stick
42K miles

I bought it in May, 2023.

benjaminh

kyfdx said:

benjaminh said:

kyfdx said:

This one is always for sale..

Very nice! How much? What year? Auto or manual?

It’s an ‘07 Cayman S
Stick
42K miles

I bought it in May, 2023.

Excellent. What kind of service records do you have for it, and even more importantly how is it to drive?

28firefighter

I took an hour for myself today and took the Porsche up north for a drive with the top down. Tomorrow is the 8 year anniversary of me escaping the hospital after an illness that quite literally nearly ended me. Needed some time to clear my head and it was a beautiful day to do it.

Put about 50 miles on roundtrip and man - the more warmed up this car is, the better it is. I didn’t even listen to music. Just the sound of the engine behind me, rowing the gears on some curvy roads. Better than any therapy I’ve had.

kyfdx

benjaminh said:

kyfdx said:

benjaminh said:

kyfdx said:

This one is always for sale..

Very nice! How much? What year? Auto or manual?

It’s an ‘07 Cayman S
Stick
42K miles

I bought it in May, 2023.

Excellent. What kind of service records do you have for it, and even more importantly how is it to drive?

Just about all the records since it's been out of factory warranty.. so, since 2011.

corvette

Sarah likes the Maverick Lobo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOQRZfsHaGM&t=976s

benjaminh

@stickguy

If I'm remembering correctly you live in an area that can get heavy snow in the winter. Just my 2 cents, but imho your wife should have an AWD vehicle for that. In other words, maybe don't sell that RDX. And you've probably already done this, but if it's having trouble with CarPlay consider replacing the cord.

nyccarguy

@stickguy - I don’t know your stance on having an EV in your stable, but The Lexus RZ 450 has some nice looking numbers attached to it (they start with 2). You can take a 7,500 mile per year lease from Lexus. Lexus also gives you 30 days of rentals included in your lease so if you want, you can rent a gas powered (Lexus I assume).

nyccarguy

All this talking about @stickguy & @corvette ’s Mavericks have me thinking about my next truck. I really do like the Maverick. The size, the available AWD with Hybrid, the cool styling, and the availability of trucks with not too many options that can keep the sticker price on the affordable side. I don’t know how they lease. I know that resale seems strong, but is that only because @stickguy has not a ton of miles on his? A Tacoma SR5 4WD will definitely have a higher MSRP, but they can be leased so cheap compared to their MSRP.

stickguy

low miles always help. but they have held their resale very nicely. Honestly, I was tempted to upgrade to a new model year to get an AWD hybrid with 4K tow package. And if Sarah got her wish (which there is zero chance of happening) and they made one with a stick, I would bite! Leasing, I never actually considered it but I don't think they every leased all that well because most people paid sticker, and supply was short so Ford never needed to do lease incentives to get rid of them.

Benjamin, the wife does not need AWD. if there was actually snow on the ground, she would not be driving anyway! and I don't have trouble with connectivity so don't think there is a cord issue. most likely she does not give it enough time to get launched or is doing something wrong.

Bradd, we actually discussed EVs and that would be fine. I have to look up what an RZ450 even is but for a lease in the $200s, why not? Take the $26k or so Carvana keeps offering me and use the windfall on something else! we don't have a charger at home, but I did have a 220v outlet installed in the garage to plug one into (or maybe it was 221, whatever it took).

ab348

benjaminh said:

This one's an automatic, but...

Well, with his bad knee, stickguy's days of driving a stick may have come to an end... [holds hat over heart, bows head]

ab348

corvette said:

Took the Maverick to Patoka Lake and did a brief hike there. It was extremely hot and humid and I called it quits pretty quickly. It's a nice park, though, will definitely be back when the weather is more agreeable. I don't have a bike, but they also appeared to have a very nice paved bike/walking trail. On the way back, found a section of Corydon Pike with some nice, hilly hairpins. The OEM Continental tires were screaming for mercy, and I caught up to a motorcycle rider. Stopped at the Silver Hills Historical Trail in New Albany before making my way home.

Corner-carving in a Maverick pickup seems rather... ambitious. Must play hell with whatever's in the cargo bed. Next thing, you'll be telling us your trip average speed was at 80mph...

stickguy

Handles like a car. Twistiest can be fun. And in mine I had to keep backing off because it sneaks over 80 without even noticing

tjc78

ab348 said:

corvette said:

Took the Maverick to Patoka Lake and did a brief hike there. It was extremely hot and humid and I called it quits pretty quickly. It's a nice park, though, will definitely be back when the weather is more agreeable. I don't have a bike, but they also appeared to have a very nice paved bike/walking trail. On the way back, found a section of Corydon Pike with some nice, hilly hairpins. The OEM Continental tires were screaming for mercy, and I caught up to a motorcycle rider. Stopped at the Silver Hills Historical Trail in New Albany before making my way home.

Corner-carving in a Maverick pickup seems rather... ambitious. Must play hell with whatever's in the cargo bed. Next thing, you'll be telling us your trip average speed was at 80mph...

You would be amazed at what you can do in a full size pickup ....

corvette

@nyccarguy - I don't think the Mavericks lease well. IMO, the good resale value @stickguy and I have enjoyed is largely because of the price increases on the new models. A three year old one for a few grand less than its MSRP becomes a lot more compelling when the MSRP on a new one has gone up almost $10k.

Michaell

corvette said:

@nyccarguy - I don't think the Mavericks lease well. IMO, the good resale value @stickguy and I have enjoyed is largely because of the price increases on the new models. A three year old one for a few grand less than its MSRP becomes a lot more compelling when the MSRP on a new one has gone up almost $10k.

Concur.

Ford leases are not all that great, for any model. I think they are trying to claw back that "employee pricing for everyone" with higher interest rates for both finance and lease.

Yep, just looked it up - Maverick is using the standard APR for leases. We don't have the exact numbers, but we tell folks who ask that it's very high, likely in the 8-10% range.

sda

@Michaell said:
Concur.

Ford leases are not all that great, for any model. I think they are trying to claw back that "employee pricing for everyone" with higher interest rates for both finance and lease.

Yep, just looked it up - Maverick is using the standard APR for leases. We don't have the exact numbers, but we tell folks who ask that it's very high, likely in the 8-10% range.

Ouch

28firefighter

F150 Lightning especially XLT leases very well.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

corvette said:

Took the Maverick to Patoka Lake and did a brief hike there. It was extremely hot and humid and I called it quits pretty quickly. It's a nice park, though, will definitely be back when the weather is more agreeable. I don't have a bike, but they also appeared to have a very nice paved bike/walking trail. On the way back, found a section of Corydon Pike with some nice, hilly hairpins. The OEM Continental tires were screaming for mercy, and I caught up to a motorcycle rider. Stopped at the Silver Hills Historical Trail in New Albany before making my way home.

Corner-carving in a Maverick pickup seems rather... ambitious. Must play hell with whatever's in the cargo bed. Next thing, you'll be telling us your trip average speed was at 80mph...

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No, that would be @roadburner and all of us would believe it.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

@sda said:

@Michaell said:
Concur.

Ford leases are not all that great, for any model. I think they are trying to claw back that "employee pricing for everyone" with higher interest rates for both finance and lease.

Yep, just looked it up - Maverick is using the standard APR for leases. We don't have the exact numbers, but we tell folks who ask that it's very high, likely in the 8-10% range.

Ouch

+1 WOOF!

nyccarguy

@28firefighter said:
F150 Lightning especially XLT leases very well.

Besides the gargantuan size, I have a problem with these $60K + MSRP EVs. In CT we pay property tax yearly on a sliding scale based on a vehicle’s MSRP. Year 1 is the town’s mill rate based on 85% of a vehicle’s original MSRP. It goes down 5% every year. On a $60K + MSRP vehicle that comes to over $900 for the 1st year. Figure at $30 per thousand, over the course of a 3 year lease it would equate to an extra $90 per month.

nyccarguy

@28firefighter said:
I took an hour for myself today and took the Porsche up north for a drive with the top down. Tomorrow is the 8 year anniversary of me escaping the hospital after an illness that quite literally nearly ended me. Needed some time to clear my head and it was a beautiful day to do it.

Put about 50 miles on roundtrip and man - the more warmed up this car is, the better it is. I didn’t even listen to music. Just the sound of the engine behind me, rowing the gears on some curvy roads. Better than any therapy I’ve had.

Wow! I can’t believe it has been 8 years already! It seems like you are doing better than great and have been able to achieve a nice work/life/car balance. Mazel-tov on the milestone.

xwesx

stickguy said:

nothing specific. more of a concept at this point.

but I think my wife may be having mental issues.

Sorry about your wife's condition, @stickguy ! I hope she gets better soon; assisted living costs might cut into the affordability of your toy....

andres3

imidazol97 said:

ab348 said:

Who knew that selling car care products and accessories could be so profitable? I used to keep up with the wash/wax/protectant debates you would find online where those who cared obsessively about such things would talk about "the best!" products to use for whatever purpose. I don't remember many Griot products being mentioned in those discussions; it was usually even more obscure stuff. I did get their catalog once and seem to recall being impressed by the price points they were asking. Stuff wasn't cheap, which I guess explains how the founder could afford to buy 6-figure cars for his collection.

The companies are selling the sizzle via the advertising. The steak is pretty much the same as the others. Buyers pay for the advertising that makes them feel they're buying a special product?

I don't know.... when I've paid extra for higher dollar steakhouses, I was impressed with the quality of my steak. Now that could be many factors, and whether a great steak is worth 2, 3, 4, or 5X the price of a chain restaurant steak is another matter. Japanese cows are better than American.

stickguy

@xwesx said:
Sorry about your wife's condition, @stickguy ! I hope she gets better soon; assisted living costs might cut into the affordability of your toy....

But it would free up a spot in the garage!

andres3

28firefighter said:

The dealer doesn’t care. Neither does VW. Neither does my insurance.

If any State Dept. of Insurance head was worth their paycheck, there would be a 45-day limit on repairs or the owner should have the right to declare it a total loss forcing the insurance company to "care."

stickguy

They are pretty much just political hacks. That are not going all out to fight for a little guy consumer.

andres3

If modern cars have too much screen, too many buttons, and too much glossy black plastic for you, here's the car for you:

au1994

andres3 said:

imidazol97 said:

ab348 said:

Who knew that selling car care products and accessories could be so profitable? I used to keep up with the wash/wax/protectant debates you would find online where those who cared obsessively about such things would talk about "the best!" products to use for whatever purpose. I don't remember many Griot products being mentioned in those discussions; it was usually even more obscure stuff. I did get their catalog once and seem to recall being impressed by the price points they were asking. Stuff wasn't cheap, which I guess explains how the founder could afford to buy 6-figure cars for his collection.

The companies are selling the sizzle via the advertising. The steak is pretty much the same as the others. Buyers pay for the advertising that makes them feel they're buying a special product?

I don't know.... when I've paid extra for higher dollar steakhouses, I was impressed with the quality of my steak. Now that could be many factors, and whether a great steak is worth 2, 3, 4, or 5X the price of a chain restaurant steak is another matter. Japanese cows are better than American.

Paying a little extra for a Prime steak is one of life’s little pleasures.