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Are gas prices fueling your pain?

altestaltest Posts: 79
Will you switch to a hybrid? Will you dump your SUV/ truck for a car/ crossover? Will you drive less? Will you switch to Asian makes? Will you add accessories that help you save gas? Will you drive in a more conservative manner... the so-called light-foot?

Have you already taken steps such as those mentioned above? If yes, please tell us what you did and whether it helped. If not, tell us what you think you are going to do.

Also, if you were driving in 70s when oil rose to all time high, what did you do? And, did that help?


  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    keep doing what I've been doing, except maybe drive a bit more gently. I'm usually not a leadfoot anyway. I won't buy a new vehicle simply to get better fuel economy, but when the ones I'm driving wear out, they'll get replaced by something more economical.

    When my 2000 Intrepid finally retires, I've thought about getting a 4-cyl Altima, but I've been thinking about that anyway. $4.00 gas wouldn't change that.

    I'd probably cut the grass less often. And let parts of the yard return to forest.

    As for the 70's, I was a kid back then and don't remember the first gas crisis. I do remember the second one, though. My Mom traded a 1975 LeMans coupe with a 350-2bbl for a 1980 Malibu coupe with a 229-2bbl. The LeMans rarely broke 15-16 mpg, while the Malibu regularly got lower 20's. That LeMans was getting pretty ratty though, so Mom was probably going to trade, anyway. However, had their been no fuel crunch, she might've gone for a V-8 in the Malibu instead of the V-6.

    In 1979 we moved to Southern Maryland, about 40 miles from my grandparents. We had been living with them. Mom ended up getting homesick, so every other weekend we drove up to see them. So needless to say, even though Mom bought a more fuel-efficient car, we didn't do our part to conserve. :blush:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Keep doing what I do...

    2004 Nissan Armada about 10mpg towing the two toys below.
    1998 Baja 33ft Cigarette Boat w/Twin 502s getting about 3mpg and a 185gal tank
    1994 Subaru Legacy Race car about 4-6mpg on the track
    Looking at a 2008 Subaru Legacy SpecB as my "economy" car

  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    I'll do the same thing I'm doing now: drive my 35 mpg Accent until a subcompact diesel hatchback shows up in this country.
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    Insulated myself against the pain of $4 by buying a Camry Hybrid (after owning a Civic Hybrid) and that price does not scare me much.

    Go Go Hybrids !!! :D :D
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I wasn't driving in the 70's, so I can't answer that part.

    But if gas does go to $4+ a gallon, I'll probably keep the Civic and add a Hybrid or another Civic to the garage. I do a lot of highway driving, and the difference between the gas and Hybrid Civic in both fuel economy and cost don't tip things in favor of the Hybrid model...
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Thanks Larsb, you are making up for my gas sucking hobbies! :)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    "I'll do the same thing I'm doing now: drive my 35 mpg Accent until a subcompact diesel hatchback shows up in this country."

    Thank you, yes, I will echo that sentiment, except that my car is a 40 mpg Echo (and my other car is a 35 mpg Matrix). Saw this gas price spike coming a while back, and made the trade then. I really hope they do bring some ultra-frugal diesel-powered small cars to the U.S. - that would be a hoot! :-)

    Now I do a lot of driving, so even for me gas prices will have an impact if they get much above $4/gallon. I already employ some gas-saving habits in the way I drive. If gas gets to $4.50 or $5 I will definitely be reducing the amount that I drive, at least among the discretionary miles.

    Which, by the way, is something everyone could probably do a lot of (reduction in miles driven) using simple tricks like combining errands, walking the errands of a mile or less from the house, carpooling for work, etc. You don't have to immediately trade in the old car for a new gas-sipper, which can be a major expense even if you calculate that it will save you money after year 2 or year 4 or whatever.

    OTOH, trading out of a full-size V-8 pick-up into a Camry hybrid can save you several thousand dollars a year right off the bat, if you drive more than the average.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,994
    ROTFLMAO....Mike, I don't know you but I do like your humor ! :D

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    :) From what I've read you are a big GM fan Rocky, how do you like those twin 502 Big Block Chevy's? 415hp each! If I push the Cig. Boat to it's limit of 75mph the fuel economy drops down to about .75mpg-1mpg!

    The economy car for me the specB I think gets 19/25mpg!

    Currently however I live in manhattan and take the train to work, so I guess that's a good trade off since I don't burn anything M-F :)


    The way I look at things is that I work 3 blocks from Ground Zero, saw the 2nd plane hit with my own 2 eyes and had to walk home 12+ miles on 9/11 Do I really care how much money I spend in gas? Not really, I'm just glad I am here to be able to spend the money on the gas!


  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,994
    I have a cousin that lives in NYC, and was their in person on 9/11. WOW, you were really close to it all.

    I'm just glad I am here to be able to spend the money on the gas!

    Well I'm glad you are also...... ;) You put it into that perspective I suppose we should all feel lucky to be able to spend money on gas.

    So you have twin 502's on your cig boat ? Where do you take it to run one of those at ? Lake Ontario ???? Two 415 hp engine's :surprise: Holy Smokes !!!

    I also would say a lot of us wished we could take the train to work with these current prices !
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I take it out in NY Harbor, Hudson River, Jersey Shore, Lake George, and a few other lakes upstate NY in the Adirondacks.

    Yep, I take the #1 train down to wall street, not a bad commute.

    I replaced my 22ft boat that had a single 454 carburated that got 2.5mpg and if I drive somewhat sanely at 45-50mph I get about 3-4mpg with the bigger 33 with twin 502s since they are fuel injected and sip the gas better.

    To put this back on track, yup, after that experience, I could care less where gas prices go, and won't drive a hybrid, just to drive a hybrid, life is way way too short to get caught up in driving or doing something you don't want to do.

  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,306
    ...what I already do, but cut down on unneccessary travel. I'd probably would quit my part-time gig as it requires a lot of travel. I'd have to get a sizable raise to compensate for the higher fuel prices or else it would no longer be cost-effective.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    digging my new '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. On a recent trip 40 miles north to Safford, AZ, my wife and I averaged 37.2 mpg with our CVT in 'D' for drive.

    Sunroof open, of course! On weeks that I'm working I probably only put about 10 miles on the car, so that certainly helps with our energy costs!

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • jae5jae5 Posts: 1,206
    is that I'll continue to do what I've been doing, since fuel shot up to +$2.00 a few years ago:

    Drive only to work and back home - wish I could stop that but unfortunately there isn't a bus / train line I could take
    Drive at the speed limit (only takes a few minutes longer to get to work)
    Cancel all trips
    Combine trips/errands, i.e. get fuel on way to work/home, go shopping on way home, take alternate route to accomplish this)
    Reduce spending, i.e. no dining out, shopping sprees, maintain the basics
    Get rid of all luxury items - my only luxuries are DirecTV and my celly, and unless traveling for work picks up again the celly go bye-bye
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    ....might be more interesting if the question was $6 or $8/gallon.

    At 1000 miles a month, gas going from $3 to $4 does this:

    @10mpg, your monthly bill goes up $100 (300-400)
    @30mpg, your monthly bill goes up $33 (100-133)

    Not too bad.

    But from $3 - $6, it looks like this:

    @10mpg, your monthly bill goes up $300 (300-600)
    @30mpg, your monthly bill goes up $100 (100-200)

    And from $3 - $8, it looks like this:

    @10mpg, your monthly bill goes up $500 (300-800)
    @30mpg, your monthly bill goes up $167 (100-267)

    A 30 mpg vehicle looks like effective gas price insurance :)
  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    Well I wanted to move anyway so I moved from 30 miles to work, to < 4 miles to work. All other driving is optional as I can run errands at the stores between home and work.

    If things get really bad - like $8/gal gas, I'll make the wife get a 3rd job. :D
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I have already linked my errands,reduced pleasure drives,and spend the night more often at my bass fishing lake so I fish 2 days instead of 1 thereby reducing the number of fishing trip miles. Waiting for a Honda diesel as my next car.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Wow, you guys are really impacting your life! Life is short don't short change yourself due to money! :(

  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Someone has got to compensate for your toys! :)
  • altestaltest Posts: 79
    Diesel hatchback... does Volkswagen not make one? Bye the way, any downside to using diesel?
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,425
    Thirteen years ago it was 1.22/gal and if it goes to $4 that would only be 3.27 times what it was 13 years ago.

    If you haven't improved your income by at least 3.27 times since 1994, the problem is NOT the price of gas. ;)
  • altestaltest Posts: 79
    Sounds like I need to target 30 Mpg to avoid surprises... My Accord gives 30+ Mpg on highway. But on local roads, it's a lot less. Jetta diesel, Camry hybrid will probably do better... Any Escape hybrid owner in this forum? I am curious to know actual mpg of Escape hybrid.
  • altestaltest Posts: 79
    Good point... my salary increased, but not enough to cover for growing family, rising healthcare, rising rents (still don't own a home). Only bright spot in the world of rising prices --- Walmart!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 48,096
    I suspect the average income in the US or anywhere for that matter hasn't nearly tripled since 1994. In fact, I'd bet every penny I own on it.

    Not many people can triple their income every decade. Talk about an unreasonable expectation.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    Volkswagen does (and so does just about everyone else), but they don't sell the Polo here. Rabbit is too large and heavy for me.

    Some people complain about the smell and oiliness of diesel fuel, but that doesn't bother me. It typically runs about 0-15 cents more per gallon than premium gas around here, but the improved fuel economy more than makes up for higher pump price and it's available at practically every gas station I know of.
  • bayouguybayouguy Posts: 12
    Sell my House and live in my SUV! ;)
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,994
    LOL, so you going the way of that Bentley, owner that took the cash from his divorce and baught a Bentley to live in instead of a house or condo ? :P

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,552
    I suspect the average income in the US or anywhere for that matter hasn't nearly tripled since 1994. In fact, I'd bet every penny I own on it.

    Not many people can triple their income every decade. Talk about an unreasonable expectation.

    I agree fully. I'd imagine that most people would be willing to dance naked with the mailman if they saw their pay go up by 3x since 1994. Heck, I just double checked, and mine went up by about 2.4x over that period. But back in 1994 I had just gotten hired full-time, and was only 24. Now I'm 37, had a couple promotions, countless raises, etc. And after taxes, my take-home pay hasn't even doubled since 1994, although part of that is because I contribute to my 401k these days. Back in 1994 contributing to something like a retirement plan seemed like something only old people do. :)

    But, to put it in another perspective, even if my income had gone up 3x since 1994, which would in theory make $4.00 gas no more of a burden to me than $1.22 gas was back in 1994, that basically means that in the past 13 years, all my work, promotions, raises, etc, has done nothing to get me ahead. And think of the 24 year old today who's just entering the workforce. Chances are he or she isn't making much more than I did back in 1994, let alone what I am now, after 13 years in the workfarce.
  • fordenvyfordenvy Posts: 72
    It was a mistake to start the war by the corrupt republicans, but now the damage is done and we need to finish it or we'll be looking at $10 a gallon. Democrats better not defund this war or I'll leave the party. $10 What would that mean? Well an increase in you gasoline bill to be higher than your mortgage. Over $1,000/month, compared to the $300 I do now. We the people gotten rid of a lot of the corruption in congress at vote day, but we still have more work to do. Do not vote for Hillary she is the Bush of the democrats. I've yet to find a candidate that dosen't support the war, but isn't planning on immediate withdrawl which would lead to a bigger, stronger Iran and more unstable oil prices. Do you think this is a problem we might have to face?
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    This topic will end quickly if politics gets injected, so I'll say something quick...Iran needs oil money too desperately to see its revenues drop from instability. Us leaving would probably lead to more stabilty anyway, compared to today. So I disagree.

    In any case, one thing $4 (or $6 or $8) gas will certainly not do is make me a republican :=)
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