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If I walk of my job, it is no longer my job. Anyone can fill it.
and how many times do I have to tell you folks that Toyota is destined to be another GM? It is doing the same things GM does, in order to beat GM, just did it better. But guess what? In doing so, it is losing sight that Quality is #1.
I love Honda for that. All they want to do is make a good product. Sales will happen naturally as a result of great quality, and they have no ambition to be # in Sales.
Winter time and a solid GM or Ford pickup with a snowplow and you're a snow removal service. I know there's snow in Michigan.
Get licensed as a gun trainer for concealed carry permits. Get tied in with someone already doing classes. With the current situations, they will become more popular.
Go to community college to work toward a certificate or a degree. Maybe you want to become a lawyer.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Aren't you forgetting a couple technicalities. You go on strike and that effectively ends the contract. The Contract you sign says you will work for the company, not stand out front with a picket sign. You also forgot that being able to do the job is an element that the UAW would like to gloss over. If a guy gets to 50 and cannot keep up with a 35 year old guy, why should the company pay him as much money? This is where training for a job that does not require a strong back and a weak mind, comes into play.
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/12/10/do-uaw-workers-make-73-an-hour-does-it-- matter/
-Rocky
Your sense of humor is really overwelhming. Invested???? Time with the company??? What could he do instead? No education, skills on level of hald hour of safety training and hour of "you turn this on here", when it comes you put bolt here, and fasten there. The only time I see "invested" is perhaps union rallys where they tell him how bloodsucking and unfair the owners and management are for not giving a well-deserved raise. Invested :sick:
How about the owners, who invested their own real money? If as you say repeatedly "there are things worth fighting for", which in your opinion means excuse for violence and vandalism, if I were an owner, I would hire squadrons to shoot at any union thug, who comes anywhere close to my property unauthorized or worse threatens harm to people I specifically asked to come and work for me. It's not even my right, it's my duty to guarantee safety to people who legally come and legally enter any legal contract. My property, my castle. Just defending my rights. "Thing worth fighting for", remember?
2018 430i Gran Coupe
-Rocky
Car Model / Per Mile/ Total Dollars
2009 Chevrolet Malibu $0.48 $36,182
2009 Toyota Camry $0.50 $37,471
2009 Mazda MAZDA6 $0.58 $43,361
2009 Nissan Altima $0.49 $36,577
2009 Honda Accord $0.48 $35,939
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/chevrolet/malibu/101028431/cto.html?step=2&setzi- - p=
The Malibu is a good car.....
-Rocky
I am sure you know that I have a background in Manufacturing.
I say Dino is right. You just are blinded by UAW smoke.
I would still consider doing an apprenticeship program but good luck finding anyone to sponsor you to get the OJT hours needed to become a journeymen. :sick:
-Rocky
-Rocky
According to the article retiree healthcare and pension benefits are $30/hr surcharge on top of $40/hr pay. That is enormous. Yes, it is fixed cost. But when your business shrinks, you don't stay in the same office space, they can't sustain that cost. Does it matter? Of course it does. Big time. While this guy is right that cutting going pay will not make as much difference, he "forgot" to mention that cutting or reducing hefty $30/hr (or more with shrinking market share) "retiree surcharge" definitely would.
And just fact of existence of this surcharge is a shared fault of the management and UAW. They probably knew in 80s or so that it will blow up sooner or later. All they could think of was the it will happen to the next guys, not us so we can keep it going unchanged.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
-Rocky
Then there's the cost of the required return trips to the dealer for certain mileage interval services that the salesmen/service centers scare the customer in coming back for. It's my opinion, (see above disclaimer), that these happen a whole lot more with the two other brands mentioned than with GMs. GMs tend to be serviced more at independent mechanics based on friends and family information. That's cheaper. On the other hand some don't service cars except at the 10,000 mile interval for Honda (I'd never let a car go that long on an oil change). The longer intervals tend to make maintenance costs appear lower than for most people.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2018 430i Gran Coupe
The unions never gave control of our lives away it was corporate america. They flushed their business ethics down the toilet in the name of the all mighty dollar. :sick:
-Rocky
And the guy who fastens bumpers and pulls $30-35/hr can do that? Don't make me laugh. The point of automation was that they don't have to. Out of 5 guys who know how to press green and red button there may be one who knows where the trip switch is (in case machine stopped), then one out of 5 of those knows how to the covers, then out of 5 of those there will be one who would actually know how to read diagrams and actually make machine work again when it stops.
Basically one out of hundred or so knows anything more than "press here, hold there and when the arrow reaches red - run". Blueprints and diagrams. This really is funny.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
The one you all forget is the great Bob Cousy. He made all his defenders look like fools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkrIrZcR42o
I remember watching one video where he drove towards the basket, looked right, passed the ball to his right (w/his left hand) causing everybody to freeze, slapped the ball w/his right hand over to Heinsohn ( who was 15 feet to his LEFT), who hit a wide open 15' footer.
Kemp......puhleeeze.....
CORPORATE GOVERNANCE CASE STUDY
General Motors
http://www.ragm.com/books/corp_gov/cases/cs_gm.html
-Rocky
Basically one out of hundred or so knows anything more than "press here, hold there and when the arrow reaches red - run". Blueprints and diagrams. This really is funny.
Again the above comments shows just how little you REALLY know. :confuse:
-Rocky
No less than the one's who DO sign the card will be harassed and bullied by management.
Last time I checked, Thomas Jefferson didn't fire off a letter to the King of England declaring our independence via a unanimous secret ballot vote.
Add'l markup? Required mop & glo? You've GOT to be kidding me. I've NEVER seen REQUIRED mop & glo. Add'l markup? Are you that much of a poor negotiator? I am almost falling out of my chair laughing.
Ohio $250 doc fee? $600 fee? Here in Florida it's $699 and EVERY new car dealer charges it.
Required return trips for service? Again, are you that gullible? It appears that you are. You have thrown out so many theoretical arguments it's so laughable.
GMs tend to be serviced more at independent mechanics based on friends and family information? ROTFLMAO. Where did you dream that one up? You've GOT to be kidding. There's nothing unique about a GM over a Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota, or whatever in this issue.
I as you might remember supported Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards. I still believe Barry is a better alternative than McCain. Not by much but marginally better. :sick:
The Union worker cannot compete in this day and age. There are millions of illegals that will soon be vying for the same jobs you are. It is supply and demand. I can tell you I would hire someone that is hungry for a job before I would hire someone that thinks the World owes him a living. Look at the UAW workers and you will see and hear what I mean. UAW workers are nothing special. They are just unskilled labor. They can be replaced. They are being replaced and nothing can be done but accept the inevitable and get on with your life. Run for office if you think you can make any changes in our system. I don't believe it is possible. Good candidates get run over by the bad ones. And they use the ignorant masses to do their bidding.
I agree we are done. Good people will suffer. UAW workers are good people for the most part and they like many other americans will be peasants in the New World Order of the serf n' elite society.
-Rocky
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-Rocky
The Law Offices of Marsha and Rockylee!! :P
-Rocky
-Rocky
I'm not suprised but watch out your probably going to be attacked for saying anything negative about the crown jewel of the import fan boys!!!
-Rocky
Legal Partners Found Injured in Double Murder Attempt
"A lawyer was found bruised and beaten in a downtown Atlanta law office. Rockylee, still grimly holding a baseball bat, was found muttering about unions and currency manipulation, while fading in and out of consciousness. Across the room, Bob, the other partner at the Law Offices of Marsha and Rockylee, was found pinned under a bookcase with thousands of law books spread across his body. Bob was screaming "I have NO sympathy" and "Go to College!" and was not responsive to police questioning.
The firm's secretary indicated that the two lawyers had been getting along fine until the ban on accessing InsideLine.com was lifted. It was at that point that Rockylee and Bob began arguing. She tried to stop them but it was too late.
Atlanta police indicate no charges will be filed."
-Rocky
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-Rocky
I was hoping to brighten your day!
On topic, what do you think the UAW's strategy is, given the GM situation? Are they holding out and playing chicken? What is the best strategy for them to hold onto as much of their benefits as possible without losing their jobs entirely?
I assume that all scenarios are going to lose many jobs.
Can the insults.
You are welcome to your opinion. I don't ridicule what happens at dealers in your corner of your world.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
With CEO's like Roger Smith in charge the UAW was only bullet resistant not bullet proof from his reign of terror. :sick:
-Rocky
-Rocky
That was the little bit of humor I was getting to.
On the other hand there are skills that are community college skills that some people have a knack for and do extremely well. I heard of man who retired as a teacher and went to the local vocational high school night school and community college for aircraft mechanics.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
-Rocky
I missed that link. Where is it.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
-Rocky
CORPORATE GOVERNANCE CASE STUDY
General Motors
http://www.ragm.com/books/corp_gov/cases/cs_gm.html
-Rocky
-Rocky
Reminds me of my favorite bumper sticker " My Karma, Just ran over your Dogma"
Why? Just because of GM's retirees? Most companies do not offer healthcare in retirment. My FIL and my grandpa lost their healthcare coverage back when LTV went belly up in '99, neither starved nor endured hardship during retirement, they adjusted. While I don't want to debate the issue of a national healthcare plan, but I would be strongly against it if it were to be rushed to implementation just because of UAW workers.
Most of the immigrants legal and illegal are either Catholic or Muslim. Neither believe in birth control or abortion. You cannot say you were not informed. BO promised amnesty and more tolerance to all groups if elected. When you are working for $12 per hour what other kind of fun can you afford?
The wise UAW worker is getting educated for another line of work. The ones that have not saved a lot for retirement will be hurting big time over the next 10 years. Michigan will become a welfare state. The government will buy up those empty houses and start warehousing their votes for the up coming elections. Maybe you should become a community organizer. It is the prerequisite for becoming President. A law degree from an Ivy league college helps. I still don't understand why you don't want to be a cop. It is similar to being in the UAW. You get to bust heads and beat perps.