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  • 1subydown1togo1subydown1togo Member Posts: 348
    Did you see this one on eBay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599033163&r=0&t=0
  • bg18947bg18947 Member Posts: 184
    Just got home to find the January issue of Automobile mag. Subaru WRX was named Automobile of the Year.

    Now, if you only got the Blizten or B4s here in the States, I would be upgrading my GT Ltd for the next Auto of the Year.
  • bg18947bg18947 Member Posts: 184
    Sorry for the misspelling.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    That red one is nice, but a hair outside my price range and has the cream leather which I don't care for. I like the darker plumb color best. For now I'll wait for my aunt's seems that everyone I see is just in crappy shape if the price is right.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That SVX does look nice...

    Let us know about the XT6 when you pick it up. I guess now that you've done the suspension conversion before, it's not as big a deal, and the price is right.

    On the 626 axle - I suggested to the service advisor that we ought to change the axle, and he insisted it was fine. So if it does need to be changed, I'm not paying for the labor again - that was his mistake.

    -juice
  • peterich29peterich29 Member Posts: 2
    I recently purchased a 2002 Outback 2.5 liter, 5 spd. Wagon, but I am concerned that the 1700-1800 rpm cold start idle is destructive to the engine. RPM will drop down if the throttle is lightly touched to about 12 - 1300 rpm, but this requires my intervention and I can't believe it is normal run this high when cold. Otherwise, the engine idles about 700 rpm when warm and seems to operate properly.

    I took the vehicle to the dealer today, and the Service manager said this kind of high rpm is ok and the car is operating to Subaru factory specification. I remain skeptical and wonder if anyone else could tell me what the correct rpm for cold start and a 2.5 liter-manual transmission is? Perhaps someone could share what their Subaru does at startup in 30-degree weather?
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    It's normal, why would you doubt the service manager? My '99 2.5RS Impreza does the same thing, as does all other 2.5L subarus I've seen.

    -Colin
    btw warm idle is 650rpm to be exact. ;-)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Both my Trooper and my XT6 run at high idle below 40 degrees, even on warm days it's elevated for a minute or 2.

    -mike
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    My 2000 OB does the same thing, which is normal. Once warmed my normal idle is 700 rpm.

    Mark
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Subaru Impreza WRX

    The competition was strong -- particularly BMW's awesome new M3, Ford's surprising SVT Focus, and Acura's sweet RSX Type-S, not to mention the Jaguar X-type, the Ford Thunderbird, the dramatically improved Nissan Alitima, and the new Toyata Camry.

    But in the home stretch, the scrappy street fighter from Subaru (Subaru!) pulled away from the pack and swept to victory on the first ballot, to become Automobile Magazine's 2002 Automobile of the Year.
    ..
    America's hottest performance car isn't supposed to come from Subaru, but guess what? It does.
    --

    Excerpt from Automobile, 2002-01.

    Cool. (BG you scooped me!)

    Congratulations, Patti and SoA!

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • peterich29peterich29 Member Posts: 2
    I recently purchased a 2002 Outback 2.5 liter, 5 spd. Wagon, but I am concerned that the 1700-1800 rpm cold start idle is destructive to the engine. RPM will drop down if the throttle is lightly touched to about 12 - 1300 rpm, but this requires my intervention and I can't believe it is normal run this high when cold. Otherwise, the engine idles about 700 rpm when warm and seems to operate properly.

    I took the vehicle to the dealer today, and the Service manager said this kind of high rpm is ok and the car is operating to Subaru factory specification. I remain skeptical and wonder if anyone else could tell me what the correct rpm for cold start and a 2.5 liter-manual transmission is? Perhaps someone could share what their Subaru does at startup in 30-degree weather?
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Peter, if you use the refresh button in your browser and it asks you if you want to resubmit-- don't. that results in duplicate posts like #6461.

    KarenS can say it better, probably has a macro. always good to see new forum participants though!

    -Colin
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Tried taking pictures of my shiny engine as you wanted, but my effin camera jammed up I will have to leave it in for repair.

    Cheers Pat.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Pat: hey, no sweat. I can wait for the pics.

    Peter: yep, ours does that too. Even our 97 Saturn does it. As you found, you can sort of 'kick-it' down a bit by tapping the pedal, but until it warms up fully, it'll idle above 1k.

    -Brian
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    I've been on the road all day visiting clients and I passed a billboard advertising the upcoming Philadelphia Auto Show January 5-13. Anyone up for a reunion? With a little better planning maybe we can all grab a meal or two together.

    Ed
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Hmmm The 48hrs of tri-state is running right through philly for breakfast that saturday (12th) morning. maybe we can all meet up for breakfast!

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    It's about a week after the Washington Show.

    Bob
  • mrk610mrk610 Member Posts: 378
    Sounds good I'll be there .I have a my02 outback 2.5 auto and on cold starts mine does the same .My old car my96 honda accord use to rev to 1800 on very cold mornings and it had 150k with only reg maint. Just my 2 cents .

    mike k
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    Yup - it's normal. Your Subaru is working its way up to operating temperature.

    Patti
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    My husband is scheduled for some outpatient surgery then, but we'll see how things go. If I can't make it, I'm sure I can get someone to be my surrogate (but I'd be bummed out to miss seeing all of you). I'll see about scooping up some tickets for you all again.

    Once I know more about what to expect with my husband, I'll confirm whether I can go or not.

    It would be great to see everyone again!

    Patti
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Paisan- since you are the "creator" of the 48 hr run, just schedule us to have breakfast at the show. Think of the publicity for Subaru- 30 cars traveling the tri state area, stopping at the car show! We could even have those who are going to the show meet in De. and drive up with us.

    Mark
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'll plan it.

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Wait a minute! The Philly Auto Show starts before the Detroit show (which is Jan. 12-20) and they overlap.
    What does that mean for the "Brat-not"? Will it debut in Detroit and then be added to the show in Philly? Or will in not show up in Philly at all? It would be great if has its debut in Philly, next to SoA HQ's. :-D

    Dennis
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Dennis: Philly traditionally has much less new stuff then Detroit, New York and Los Angeles, but it's true that SoA is a long cab ride from the show. This seems like a very early start for the show this year.

    Patti: Do you ever eat at Red Hot & Blue near SoA? Good barbecue is so hard to come by up here and that's about the best you can do short of making it yourself.

    All: I will be out of town on family biz January 4-7 so if I go it'd be most likely on Saturday the 12th.

    Ed
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    What's this? Paisan finally going over to the dark side and getting a manual tranny? Say it ain't so!

    -Frank P.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I'm finally growing up and going to play with the big boys! Of course I know how to drive MT but not as well as I should. I'll definitely like the 50/50 torque split. It will also be interesting to compare the handling of 2 identical cars MT v. AT.

    -mike
  • tristessatristessa Member Posts: 10
    Hi guys,

    It's fun to finally have some snow on the ground! I have a 2001 Legacy GT Ltd with auto tranny, and when I accelerate on patches of ice, trying to throw the rear of the car into a slide, there is occasionally a clunking sound coming from (I assume) the rear differential. There is no sound during cruising, braking or idle, just when it slips during acceleration. Is this normal?

    The RE92s are terrible in the snow and wet and I only have 20K on my car. But in an empty parking lot, it's a lot of fun!
  • snizavesnizave Member Posts: 19
    Well, i think my 92 Legacy may have suffered a premature death. Yesterday (tuesday), i was broadsided at an intersection by a Galant that was going about 40 mph. Hit my car square on the b pillar, crushed the side of the car in a ways, enough to push the passenger seat in a little ways and damage the center console. My girlfriend was riding in the back seat drivers side, which ended up being amazingly lucky...she probably would have been injured if she was in the passenger seat. My car actually drives just fine, the Galant does not. Both airbags went off in the Galant, and the front of the car was crushed back to about even with the front axle. I'm not sure if it's gonna be called my fault or no fault as i had a yield sign. It is a horrible intersection, cars parked on both sides of the road, and i slowed to about 10 mph, couldn't see anything until the front of my car was already sticking out, so i gunned it hoping i might make it through... he was going between 40-45 though, and the speed limit was 30, which would be the only way it would be called no fault, but this will all depend on how the police report turns out. Kinda bummed me out for a while, as i'll be without a car now for quite some time i expect. But these things happen, and i'm just glad no one was hurt. I might get pics up sometime.

    Mike
  • amishraamishra Member Posts: 367
    Glad to hear your all okay. In the end, that's what counts.
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    From what I hear (as of yesterday) the STX/BRAT/???? is not going to be at the Philly show. It would be great because we are so close, but for press coverage and national attention, launching at Detroit makes more sense. Business wise - makes sense to me. Personally - - bummer.

    Patti
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    Yup - Red Hot and Blue is a favorite of SOA people. My husband just loves their "Pulled Pig" sandwich. Now, if only they'd serve it on Rally Bread......

    Patti
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    It could have been a power transfer if you were on ice. When I hit a serious ice patch some time ago, I hit the brakes (I know - dumb reaction), but with the ABS surprising me I didn't notice any other noises. Maybe other folks can post their experience? I'll ask around in work to see if anyone else has experienced this and if it's normal.

    Post later!!!

    Patti
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    Patti

    What are you doing up at this time of night?

    What is a pulled pig

    Cheers

    Graham
  • pattim3pattim3 Member Posts: 533
    I'm really glad everyone is okay. I had a friend that had an accident at a similar "bad" intersection who petitioned the State to cover the cost. If there have been others at the same intersection, you may have a situation where the States Dept. of Transportation can get involved. If they are allowing parking that causes a blind merge - seems like there will be a record with your States DOT.

    Once again, I'm glad you and your girlfriend are okay!

    Patti
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Graham/all: "Pulled pig" describes the method in which the barbecued pork is pulled apart and pulled off the bone - sort of in longish strips. It's one of the primary ways pork barbecue is prepared in the US; chopped or shredded pork being the other. In Texas, barbecue is primarily made not with pork but with beef, and the beef is sliced rather than pulled or chopped.

    "Barbecue" (the generic term to describe barbecued pork or beef) is popular mostly in the Southern US; each region in the South has its own preferred method of preparation and preferred type of barbecue sauce. Some sauces have a tomato base, some have a vinegar and pepper base, and some even have a mustard base. All methods and sauces are the subject of friendly debate amongst Southerners. Most all are tasty and the choice is a matter of personal preference and/or regional pride.

    Ed
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Ed- Excellent synopsis of barbecue American style!
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Mike E. - Glad you made it out o.k.

    Patti - So I assume there's a better chance of the Brat-not showing up at the N.Y. show.

    Ed - That was great! Are you an author in your spare time?

    -Dennis
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I think the NY show is after the Detroit one, so it should be at the NY show.

    -mike
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    yes, you probably heard the multiplate clutch engaging. it normally engages more smoothly when there is load transfer or wheelspin, but if you get sufficient wheelspin it will engage all the clutches abruptly and you hear a distinct "bang".

    -Colin
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    There are different tiers of importance to Auto shows. The Detroit Show is a major international show that draws media from around the world, so most new vehicles developed for sale in the U.S. are premiered at that one. Detroit is on par with the other major shows in Japan, Germany, etc. Just under that are the L.A. and New York shows, which are considered national shows, which could get an occasional new vehicle debut. Philadelphia is a regional show, hence it won't be the site of new model debuts
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Stop it, OK? I'm already hungry and it's not even 10am! ;-)

    I'm working on nabbing free passes to the DC auto show. I'll let you guys know. I may drag the wife there (kicking and screaming, she hates them) to sample the interiors of the long list of cars we are considering. I really hope they have an LL Bean wagon in the Subie display, since she hasn't seen one in person.

    Philly again? Hmm, nothing different to see unless the production STX makes a surprise appearance.

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Dennis: Thanks. Writing - technical, legal, PR/marketing - takes up a large portion of my daily job. I don't get to write for pleasure much anymore; I'm limited mostly to Christmas cards and brief bursts on Internet community fora. ;-)

    juice: As I mentioned before and tincup47 emphasized, sadly Philadelphia is a minor show in the hierarchy of things. It is, however, where I met many of you in this group (including Dennis, the relative I didn't know I had). In addition, its proximity to Cherry Hill probably makes it easier for Subaru reps to get here. If SoA travel and entertainment budgets are like those in my company, only the top level of execs and sales/marekting flacks get to go to the glamorous national and international events, while we grunts in operations are lucky to get to go to the regional events. Feh.

    Maybe New York is the place to meet. When is that? Still in the Javits Center?

    Ed
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Ed -- your description makes BBQing sound so sophisticated! ;-)

    Ken
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Sophisticated? Nah. Some people do take it very seriously, though, like any other form of cooking. Because of its association with the rural American South, and because of the primal nature of tearing large hunks of meat off a carcass, barbecuing has this backwards/hick/redneck image that is in my opinion unjustified.

    Call it a "churrascaria" and put it on Food Network and people will fall all over themselves for it. Do it with power tools and any idiot who feels that the size, cost and complexity of the tool is somehow connected to his manhood will make a competition out of it. Gave Tim Allen a career and a means to indulge his automotive fantasies to an extent many of us wish we could.

    Ed
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Mike, sorry to hear about your accident. Glad you and girlfriend are alright. Is it repairable or totalled? Let us know how it works out.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If the Philly show has the STX, that would give me a reason to go. You'll recall last year I changed my mind when I found out the WRX would be there.

    Churrasco. Now you're talking. I'm off - to eat!

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I didn't even know what it really was until I moved down to Virginia (from CT). First time I had the pulled-pork variety I thought it was pretty cool. Much easier to eat than the New England notion of barbeque which seems to involve grilling chicken or ribs.

    Down here, people get very serious about the different ways to prepare pulled pork barbeque -- with or without sauce, for example -- to the point where it gets to be a rivalry. I have friends from North Carolina who scoff at our local barbeque joints and vice-versa. I may just be a dumb Yankee, but it all tastes good to me!

    Don't tell my neighbors or coworkers this, but the best barbeque I had was in Texas -- beef brisket sliced thin. Man was that good!

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That place at Orioles Park at Camden Yards, oh boy, those pulled pork BBQ sandwiches are the best. Lots of messy sauce on mine, please.

    Any Baltimore locals here know the name?

    -juice
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
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