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My Salesperson Misled Me
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I'm sure you've been around enough to know that there are slime ball customers and slime ball sales persons that deserve each other. Unfortunately, reasonable people like those of us here keep running in to them.
Tell the truth, who would really notice if the car they are driving had a part that was switched with another new part?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Oh my, there is not enough booze to erase that out of my mind.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Nope there is nothing like a good rhubarb pie, and I don't mean one of those whimpy ones cut with strawberries. I mean a real honest to goodness rhubarb pie.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I don't know if that's rare in Hawaii but I received free lifetime oil changes and tire rotation when I purchased my new car recently and they didn't cannibalize my car first before they offered it. I'd ask for more than that.
Shifting gears...
Survivor? I believe his name was Rupert.
Disneyworld? Best time I've ever found was between Thanksgiving and the week before Christmas. No lines at all or none that were longer than a 5 minute wait for the same ride that would be backed up for 2 hours in the summer.
I remember my first visit to DisneyLAND when I was 5. I loved calling out all the "big shiny" and "little shiny" things exploding in the air during the evening fireworks display.
(And the campground we stayed at was freaking spotless. I remember marvelling at the air conditioned bathrooms. :P )
-moo
Anyway, I had a rough day today. I had my PET Scan in the morning but I think I must have caught the flu. Last night I had a terrible headache, body aches, chills, and coughing, oh and also a runny nose.
This morning when I got up to get ready to go to the hospital I could barely move. I told my wife I felt like crap and she came over and gave me a hug which made me feel better.
I left to the hospital and had the IV put in my left arm then the radioactive solution pumped in me and the worst tasting contrast solution which they gave me to drink. All this time I'm laying down with four sheets on me since it's cold in there and I'm shivering like crazy. Once they put me in the tube scanner I had to lay still for 21 minutes with my arms over my head. It was the longest 21 minutes of my life.
When I got done I had to stop by the pharmacy to pick up a mouth rinse for my mouth sores. I had about an hour wait.
While I sat there pondering why ducks have webbed feet, a Navy buddy of mine is walking with his wife and I called his name and he came up to talk to me. I hadn't seen him in a couple of years and when I told him about my ordeal with cancer his eyes welled up. We were on the same ship for 5 years and went to desert storm together and hung out in Dubai.
He was on his way to have a scan also as there was something around his belly bothering him. I hope it's nothing serious.
As I sat there waiting for my number to be called this tought came to my mind. "we all have a cross to bear" up until now I had no clue what that meant.
I left the hospital and came home and my wife took the day off from work and made me some pizza and hot and sour soup for my flu. After I ate I sat down in my favorite easy chair and turned the tube on and fell asleep.
I opened my eyes when I felt her loving hand caressing my face. She was checking to see if I had a fever. I heard one of my boys say to her. "Good job Mom! you're taking care of your old man."
Anyway, I slept most of the day and now I'm awake and instead of chills I'm feeling hot. I hope this means the flu or whatever it is, is going away. I hate this feeling. :sick:
Sorry, didn't mean to get off topic. Cannibalize is a term commonly used when parts are taken out of one machine or auto, etc to troubleshoot or repair another. We used this term in the Navy and we would sometimes have to take one part out of a radar system to fix another one.
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King Dongs????!!!!!
When I went through my multiple heart surgeries a year ago, my wife was my savior. We are lucky guys.
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Well, I am paying over $26,000.00 and I have been reading about it's mpg online and it gets maybe 25 on the highway.
I have always paid cash for my homes and cars thinking I'm real smart. Well, I have ZERO credit because of it. Stupid me. So, dealerships and salesmen can stick the little matchbox car where ever they wish if one is desperate for a vehicle low on mpg and has no credit. I HATE it and miss my Pathfinder but it was costing over 1K a month to commute to work and back. I feel so used! Why do these men bald faced lie that way? Because they get away with it?
Do you know if there are larger tires I can buy for the little car?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
If he paid $16K on a 60 month loan at 14% he would have total payback of $26K.
To make this DisneyWorld thread on topic, we plan on getting to DisneyWorld in the only sports car minivan on the market... the Mazda (ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM) MPV. :P
edited: The week before Christmas sounds pretty good Teddybear. The kids will be out of school.
LOL... oh man... that is funny!
Why do customer lie like this then accuse us of lying?
I think it must have been some type of misunderstanding... some type of miscommunication of some sort. Mistake happen ya know.
Seriously though, some people hear what they want to hear. He could have heard $1,800 less when the other dealerships saleperson was talking about a different model, or you could have been showing him a car with the etch and sketch or mop and glow already added in.... or maybe your car had the convience package on it. It's possible ya know. :surprise:
Oh, they wouldn't. That's the scary part. My next new car purchase I'll have to crawl under the hood and carefully examine every part and component to make sure it is OEM. I suppose if I asked SM if any parts were cannibalized on the vehicle, I would be looked at as if I were crazy or something. But, that's a risk I'm willing to take.
Since we're strolling down DisneyWorld memory lane... I was about 12 years old when our family took our annual second week in August family vacation. The hottest time of the year. No joking... it was 102 freaking degrees that day with killer humidity. I remember sweating, standing in long lines, and the bright hot sun. Entering the air conditioned Hall of Presidents was pure ecstacy. The rides were great though... still remember the 85,000 leagues under the sea submarine ride.
To make this on topic, my dad drove us to DisneyWorld in a Ford Station Wagon. The thing had a 450cc engine that I inherited when I came of age.
You don't remember KingDongs? Okay... Hostess makes HoHo's (which no pun intended look like dingdongs) and DingDongs the snack cake. Roughly 20 years ago Hostess changed the DingDong name to KingDong. Hostess DingDongs were round and shaped like a circular bell. But, the name DingDong was causing too many mommies to blush, and causing to much trouble in school cafeterias across the nation. So, the name was changed to KingDong. About 10-15 years ago the name was changed back to the more edgy DingDong. :lemon:
To make this thread on topic... Dingdongs were delivered by Bread trucks which sported 442hp engines.
For instance, the salesman promised that bread truck would easily handle 20+ racks of bread, but as hard as the delivery man tried he could never get more than 16 racks in there. :mad:
Just tryin' to help.
In my county in KY there is a box on the citation labeled "ATTN"; if it's checked, the prosecutor won't agree to a plea until he/she checks with the citing officer.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Well, I am paying over $26,000.00 and I have been reading about it's mpg online and it gets maybe 25 on the highway.
I have always paid cash for my homes and cars thinking I'm real smart. Well, I have ZERO credit because of it. Stupid me. So, dealerships and salesmen can stick the little matchbox car where ever they wish if one is desperate for a vehicle low on mpg and has no credit. I HATE it and miss my Pathfinder but it was costing over 1K a month to commute to work and back. I feel so used! Why do these men bald faced lie that way? Because they get away with it?
Do you know if there are larger tires I can buy for the little car?
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The above tesimony is clear proof of the continued tricks and deceitfulness of many dealer in 2008. What a shame!! This is why consumers need to lobby Congress to in act some laws to clean up this rift raft that has unfairly cost consumers billions upon billions of dollars.
This why I support at least a 3 day cooling off period (ala the Mortgage industry) for car purchases. Also, I think any willful and intentional deception by a car dealer should result in no less than a $2,000 dollar fine for each infraction. Up to 5 infractions carries a 10k penalty including that particular dealership being censured.
Censured as in a "bad or dishonest dealer".
This stuff has got to stop!!
Oh yeah, and I believe they're delivered by truck too.
You've got to be kidding me. You must be a left wing liberal Democrat, I mean from the far left wing.
C'mon. Do I need to point out all the obvious flaws (or are they exaggerations?) in that post?
This could be nothing other than a joke/satire on what this board is all about.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Junior High kids would have had a field day with that one...
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Hang in there, buddy.
i know this can't be easy but it sounds like your docs are on top of things.
Well, it looks like he's already hooked a big 'un... :P
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Also, I agree. We should make sure to let the government know which people are really stupid. That way they can monitor their activities and when they start to do something stupid, they can intervene. OR we could just hang sandwich boards around their necks. The boards could say "I'm freaking stupid. It's against the law to do business with me." That would probably work pretty well too.
Great suggestions.
-moo
Amount Financed (Cost+Fees+TTL) + Finance Charge if only minimum payments for term (worst case interest $) - down =/- trade equity (negative equity). That is how the inflated figure was arrived at - absolutely no deceit from the dealer.
Hyundai buyer just rolled into an 84 month lease balloon. $20k out of pocket. $999+tx.
-moo
Well, youz a little off-topic kyfdx.... but yeah... I believe they were named King Dons... which were delivered by bread trucks not bought thru the internet or thru a misleading salesman. :shades:
But I believe Junior High up to college kids are having a "field day" with DingDongs... don't see how KingDongs could be much worse.
Don't you mean procreate? B/c if you can't procreate at least you should be able to recreate
-moo
Ok lets say that a water pump in a brand new sludge mobile is bad, its going to take a week or so to get a new one in. The dealership takes a water pump off a car in inventory and puts it on that new sludge mobile. After the new part comes in it gets put on the sludge mobile that you then buy. Now how will you be able to tell if the part was changed?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Hmm...I remember my 1972 VW Beetle with a 1600cc engine. I think my Trek bike could beat it in a 1/4 mile run. Did you mean 450 cu in or did the salesman mislead your dad?
You might want to think again about the week before Christmas Disneyworld trip. Kids everywhere else will be getting out of school then and I would imagine the crowds would be increasing. I think the Unofficial Guide to Disneyworld suggests the 3 weeks right after Thanksgiving.
I actually think that the above testimony is not truthful (the 25 MPG highway is a dead giveaway). But if it is its just proof that a consumer needs to be informed as an informed consumer would not have fallen for this crap. Oh and its easy to get informed on these things.
This why I support at least a 3 day cooling off period (ala the Mortgage industry) for car purchases.
Won't work simply because once the car is driven off the lot it losses value and while the buyer can be made whole again the dealership cannot. They will get back a used car when they put a new car into the deal. For something like this to work the buyer cannot take possession of the vehicle for 3 days (and if not I do believe that current contract laws would allow for a cancellation) or the buyer would have to reimburse the dealer for the loss in value of the car.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Well, I would never buy a Sludgemobile. Must be something Kia or Hyundai just came out with... never heard of em. :P
But, seriously folks, parts go in during assembly a heck of a lot easier than they can be taken out during replacement... correct? I would think, if anyone is monkeying around under the hood, I would be able to tell. i.e A little nick here, a little scratch there... simple.
Ok how about a Buyota Benz?
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes... it was probably both.
Scratch the week before Xmas huh? Well, the kids would be missing a week of school immediately after T-giving. Would probably have to look at when they have a 2 1/2 day minibreak.. about late October... and having one this last week in January.
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Mack