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So,Omega8, if you're not afraid to walk on the wild side, get the Borla. You will feel the difference, and the price is a little more noise at certain rpms. The V-8 may have different resonance point(s) than the V-6 and maybe Brian can tell you where they are. I get a great "burble" at idle that is so much better than the antiseptic stock system. And if I behave and keep the shift points at a normal rpm, the Borla is very polite. But from 3500-4100 rpm under large throttle openings, that X-box is really working in it's tuned range. And I have a feeling torque is maximized by the X-box in that range. And although I have no instrumented data, I can tell from the seat of my pants that throttle response and acceleration is better. This ain't your father's Lincoln, and with the Borla, it certainly doesn't sound like one either.
On that note, I did browse the US Customs website and found that there is a duty, presuming a US resident purchasing in Canada and import to the US:
Based on the value (invoice amount) in US dollars:
$400 "tourist" exemption +
4% on the next $1,000 +
2.5% on everything above the 1st $1,400.
In addition, vehicles with a combined EPA rating of less than 22.5 mpg get a Federal gas-guzzler tax from $1,000 up to $7,700 depending on how bad they are.
And all that is presuming no other hinks like safety or emissions upgrades. Also, on something like this, I think some or all of the Canadian GST can be refunded (15% on the total value) offsetting some of the US Customs pain.
http://www.bonforums.com/jaguar/jag_m5fighter.htm
So, does anybody have any advise on the GMS mass air flow meters? Is there anything to be aware of? Or should I just go for it? Thanks.
Jaguar's "M5 killer" only comes in an automatic? What a joke!
You need a dealer that can troubleshoot the problem instead of endlessly replacing parts.
http://63.236.108.16/article.cms?articleId=36620&a=a&bt=bmw+7+series+frankfurt
By the way this is at Pavilion LM in Austin, TX.
I give up..I am so fed up with these window problems that I can't see
straight. I am seriously thinking about selling this Lemon to some other
fool. I have also come to the conclusion that LS stands for LEMON
SUCKER..!!!! The first time the part was replaced was 6-12-01. I had another
failure, same window, and the part was replaced again on 8-14-01. Well low
and behold I had another failure, same window, on 8-16-01 (yes..2 days
later). Well the part failed again on 8-26-01 (10 days later) same window.
On this last failure I waited until noon today, 9-25-01 to have it repaired.
I went to drop the car off at lunch today and they said that if I wanted to
wait it would only take 15 minutes or I could get a loaner. I didn't mind
waiting 15 minutes but the 15 minutes turned into an hour..but I won't go
there at this time. Needless to say I was VERY upset and drove off without
collecting my paperwork. I left the dealer and drove to work, I left work
this afternoon to go home and guess what?? BINGO..you guessed it..the window
would not work. The repair lasted for maybe 3 or 4 up/down cycles. So
tomorrow they will install ANOTHER replacement part for the 5TH TIME..!!
I wish someone would please teach me how to roll down windows becasue I
MUST be doing something wrong. I mean I am using my left index finger to
operate the controls. Is this the wrong finger? Should I be using my left
hand with my toes crossed? Should I only roll down the windows on even
numbered days?? I need some assistance here. Lincoln, where are you? What is
up with these windows and why can't you design a decent part?? And why am I
having so much problem getting the problem fixed. I mean I am talking about
5 failures on the SAME window.
I am so fed up with this that if this car was financed with FMC or
even leased I would tell them to come pick it up. This is the last Ford
that I will ever own, all beacuse of poor customer service and a $65 part.
akirby: you must have read my post before it was yanked. The window is detached from the regulator. I can go out there now and roll the window donw about half-way, shut the door and the window will drop the rest of the way. Once it has dropped I can then grab the window with my hand and pull the entire window glass up. This tells me the window is not attached to the regulator.
The more common problem is what I call the "explosion in the speghetti factory syndrome" wherein the metal cable decides to misbehave and go off the motorized drum winder and off it's "track". In this case the motor "freewheels" and the cable doesn't go along for the ride. Your window will do the "crash".
So, doc, what's the symptom? This is certainly the biggest window case I have ever heard of. Both of mine crashed in September of 2000 and the revised mechanisms installed in November fixed the problem. I just wonder what's failing at this
late date.
http://www.carlemon.com/lemon/TX_law.html
Brian
My LS is silver with the charcoal leather interior. It has all of the options(sport, convenince group, moonroof, heated seats, 6 disc in dash changer) except for the chrome wheels. If you're looking for an LS your best deal would be a manual since it seems these are harder to sell.
My advice (been there done that!) is to escalate within Ford and be patient and persistent. Document everything, dates, times, names, everything. Start making phone calls and writing letters - especially old fashioned ones that go in an envelope with a stamp on it.
When you say the key words "LAWSUIT" or "LEMON LAW BUYBACK" Ford will lawyer up & dig in their heels and you'll be better off parking the car in your yard and just paying the note without using it.
The suggestion to be patient, persistant and civil is a good one. You may find yourself with a new LS, if not a refund check, without having to go through the laborious legal process.
If the "honey" approach doesn't get you quick results, hunker down and go for the jugular. Good luck!
What dealer did u get this from?
To think that such a minor problem will bring this car down is unbelievable. Yet why shouldn't it.
I don't care how great the trans is, or how great the handling is, or how great the engine is, or how cheap it is, if the windows don't stay up who needs it.
Anyone else notice how we haven't heard a word from JR's replacement?
Maybe she bought one of these Lemons and can't take the heat.
By the way... after sending my name, phone and vehicle ID to Jim I never heard a thing from him or anyone else.
For all u LS enthusiasts out there... I got a car for you and will sell it to you real cheap..
ALong with a box of Duct tape to hold your rear windows up.
One last thing... I've had the reflash on the trans and I still think it sucks.. It downshifts abruptly,
hesitates when accelerating, and often leaves me floating at 30mph while it decides what gear to try next..
Kevin
2000 V8 auto
PS Please dont tell me to try a new dealer, call the customer service people, or fix it myself!!
I didn't pay 38k to become an auto mechanic or customer service rep...
Kevin
I just got mine to the dealer yesterday. I called ahead (there I go thinking again) presuming they would schedule me in after making sure the tag lamp housings were in. Hello? I still have one bad and will have to return whenever they get one in. I also mentioned delayed engagement hoping to get the latest PCM reflash. According to the SO I got 1-01-05, not the latest 1-14-05.
This dealer had done such a great job in the past. Now I am seeing that the great job may have been more with the service advisor. The guy I had worked with in the past called me back in March to let me know who to call since he was leaving. The new guy didn't even call to let me know the car was ready. I had to call them.
The only difference between these two TSBs is that 1-14-05 included some cars that were overlooked in the original TSB. If you had either of these TSBs performed on your car you have the correct software.
Mark
I know you have moved on to a new transmission, but I want to thank you for still keeping up with us. It says alot about you and we appreciate you.
Now regarding that JR Replacement. Couldn't JR apply some heat or somebody get the replacement engaged? One of the big things necessary for Success is consistency. JR has raised the bar by becoming involved with the customer base. Hence, his successor should continue that level of service.
The Consistency issue also applies to Dealer Service Advisor. My Service Advisor has a whole lot to do with how I See Lincoln. I guarantee you this when he leaves I will not feel connected anymore and I am sure his successor will suck. Why? Because Dealerships focus on their service reps bringing in money instead of providing consistently good customer service. As a result I will probably get an Service Advisor that is driven by the bottom line instead of one that focuses on the balance between Customer Service and the bottom line.
Anyways let me get off my soap box. Mark you will we see you at the Happy hours or plant, etc?
Regards,
Airwolf
Mark
We have close to 50 people attending which is about the maximum capacity for the tour to give us the maximum amount of fun.
Brian
Wanted to know what my problem was with the car.
Explained the window problem and how the dealer refused to fix both rear windows per the TSB.
The spokesman said he wasn't aware of the TSB and would check it out.
Gave him the number and wah-lah...Oh he says..yes it does say to fix both windows if one fails.. I will call your service manager at the dealer and inguire.
Ok I said..
Few minutes later got another call... Ford had talked to the dealer and "IF" the other window was covered under warranty.. they would notify me and have me bring it in to fix the other rear window with the "improved" regulator.
We''ll see...I'm keeping the box of duct tape just in case....
Kevin
Now that my car is fixed my opinion of Ford products has not changed. At this point I will not even allow my 7 month old son to have a Ford Hot Wheels car. Do I sound bitter..you bet. I expect a quality product and quality service. Oh..by the way..the plug costs $1.65. So I stand corrected. Ford lost a customer over a $1.65 part vs.a $65 part.
http://media.ford.com/products/presskit_display.cfm?vehicle_id=490&press_section_id=402&make_id=93
The folks hosting the Wixom homecoming will get an EAR FULL of complaints and sarcasm at an event that SHOULD be a celebration of a fine automobile. A stupid problem such as this will go a long way to scuttle an otherwise good time. Left unresolved, the little trinketts that usually go a long way toward building consumer loyalty (like the pens given out at Mania 1 in Irvine) will just be a bad joke.
So far, knock wood, I have not had a window problem, but this failure is not a question of 'if' but, rather 'when'. If that's the case, Lincoln should just step up to the plate and fix it once and for all on their tab rather than mine after the warranty expires.
www.fordracingcentennial.com/index_noflash.html
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010927/atth012a_1.html
Re recall: Couldn't agree more. Mine haven't failed yet either, but it seems inevitable with a 5/00 build date. Nobody who bought an expensive car (shoot, they're ALL expensive) should have to wait for a failure to get a known defect repaired. C'mon, Lincoln. You've spent a fortune developing this great car, and you're going to alienate customers over a pissant little problem like this?
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my wife goes into a rough section of town with this car, and if the windows fail...........
Sorry, I cannot make Mania II as my second annual kidney transplant checkup is scheduled that Friday and it is an all day event which leaves one exhausted. For those of you who are going please do raise these issues though as I agree they are very irritating for a car in this price range. Looking forward to the reports from the event.
As I've mentioned, mine haven't failed yet, but it's really creepy thinking that it could happen at any time. It's even more an issue with me, because my wife didn't want the LS in the first place. I talked her into it. If it develops any serious problems, you know who'll catch hell for it !!
Yes, I want to see the LS Manual "finished". I'd like either the Getrag six-speed or the RX-7 five-speed overdrive tranny and a 3:58 rear with LSD. That's all the car needs to make it competitive for value (not to mention 0-60 under 7 seconds).
In MY 2002, The Manual LS has more competition. Audi, MB, Infiniti G35, IS300, Cadillac are "manualizing". The LS has it's unique size, as I find the 3 series and imitators just too small (And I'm only 5'10" and 200 lbs). My lease is up in July 2003. It could be an interesting market then. I hope the LM team keeps the ball rolling. The LS Manual doesn't need an expensive redesign. Performance buyers don't buy sheet metal. We like numbers. The LS Manual just needs it's deficiencies addressed. I call it "finishing school". Until 7/2003, I'm still going to have a smile on my face. After all, without the Manual LS, I would probably be driving an appliance.
I'm in Germany again (last one out before our company put a huge clamp-down on "international" travel last week), and have another Audi for my rental. Came over a couple of days early and used vacation days to tour Switzerland. Last time it was an A3 with a 1.9 litre turbodiesel -- this time it's an A4 with the same engine. These are well-built cars without the yuppie scum image of the BMW. The ones I've driven here are FWD, but the Quattro is pretty attractive, and manuals are standard equipment on A4's, S4's & A6's in North America, or at least a no-cost option. Granted the weight distribution isn't so good as on the LS, but the fit and finish aren't even in the same time zone, let alone zip code.
The only potential "issue" that the Audi comes with, as nearly as I can tell, is reliability. Compared to what? Japanese cars? Everyone's worse. The LS? Let's wait and see. I have a suspicion that many of the Audi reliability issues are relatively minor as well, but have no real yardstick, since Audi folks, like most of the LS crowd, leases cars and have no interest whatever in what happens once the warranty expires.
I realize that this reflects on their suppliers, so I take the same knowledge with my LS. Cars are cheaper now, but the direct control of the companies are looser now. Too much outsourcing!
Brother's TT, A/C went out five times and they replaced Instrument Cluster three times. When it was pointed out that a "Lemon" buy back" on the title might cause problem, they provided a nice replacement for his red TT.
Mein LS has been trouble free. No window problems yet, but I don't worry about it. Sort of like, I don't worry about taxes and death, both are there, so we'll see how it goes!
For those having rear window problems, I feel for you. I hope that there is a resolution to this problem soon. I don't necessarily think that this makes the vehicle a has been
The ridiculousness of this situation is exponentially increased by the dealer network not heeding the TSB directions which specifically state that BOTH regulators should be changed out at the same time. Why Lincoln isn't stressing the importance of this to their dealer network is surprising to me.
The other part that is frustrating me is that the dealers aren't making any attempt to put themselves in the customers place. How would any of them like to drive around with duct tape holding up their windows? How hard can it be for the dealer to pin the window in the upright position while waiting for the parts to come in? And how hard is it for the dealer to fix it properly the first time?
Like it or not, Lincoln's involvement on this site won't improve since Jim Rogers left. He did this board on his own time and while the Lincoln folks submarine surf this board, outside of Scot and Mark, I don't expect any response from an official Lincoln spokesperson any time soon, if ever. I've emailed several people at Lincoln telling them that they are blowing one of their strongest assets by neglecting this, but haven't made much impact.
http://www.fordracingcentennial.com/schedule.html
It states that Lincoln is the #1 seller of luxury vehicles in the US so far for the 2001 calender year. Even though sales are down for the year Lincoln "has risen to the top of the heap in luxury vehicle sales".
The distinction is that the government defines a 'luxury vehicle' as one that sells for more than $38,000. Given that threshold, 55.6% of BMWs are classified as luxury vehicles, 57.7% of Lexus and 68.6% of Mercedes. 92.3% of Lincolns are considered luxury vehicles.
Maybe it's considered a "performance" car? HA! Don't you love the term "entry level luxury car"? Almost yuppie scum!
For those of you who have not had any problems with you car consider yourself lucky. I just counted the number of warranty claims against my car and the total, counting the headlight assembly is 13. My car is 2000 V8 non-sport with a build date of 2/00 and I have 13,900 miles on the car