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Heck we have a NEW UNSOLD 02 Accord EX-V6 2Dr that we are just about giving away. but it is 2 years old. I don't care if it is a demo or not they still have the same amount of money tied up in it but when it gets old it starts costing money. thats why you see inventory turn over so fast. and if they say they will do a deal "tonight or right now" they still own it for the same price tomorrow.
as for the Security System its not all that its just like any other alarm thats $99-199 it just Honda Parts and covered under warranty when purchased with the car.
There are tons of fascinating discussions over on our Smart Shopper board where much of this conversation would fit very nicely.
Sbhonda and others please check it out. Let's let this discussion revert to its original purpose and pursue these other lines of conversation in more appropriate venues.
Thanks.
I just got a deal on a 2004 EX V6 NAVI at INVOICE !!! Was initially offered 1,000 over . Then another guy offered 300 over . Finally this price . Unbeatable deal , for a 2004 !
Two other dealers came within $100 of that price, but neither had the colors we were considering on the lot when we got there. Ed Voyles Honda had located a black one, but didn't have it yet. Curry Honda seemed to try to pull a fast one on us because they claimed to have both green and black (the two colors we were considering) on their lot as late as an hour before we got there. Of course, when we arrived, the green turned out to be an LX and the black turned out to be a demo. Honest mistake, I'm sure. Not.
Luckily, we had planned on visiting all three dealers before making our final decision. Atlanta seems to be a very competitive market. No other dealer in Alabama even came close to the prices or selection there.
BTW, our new Accord was made in Japan and had 5 miles on the odometer when I drove it off the lot. We love the XM radio.
All of the California Accords and those sold in a few other states require whatever is added to the car to make it a very low-emmissions vehicle. I think the PZEV invoice is increased $135 and MSRP by $150. With respect to where the car was manufactured, mine is also from Japan with 60% parts from U.S. and/or Canada, 25% from Japan, and the other 15% from elsewhere. The engine and trans. were made in Japan. The U.S. Accord is different from European and Asian Accords which are what Acura is selling here as the TSX. Because our Accord is unique in the world, it makes sense for most of it to be sourced close to home....Richard
Start with the MSRP, subtract the $460 transportation charge, take 90% of that amount, then add the $460 back and you'll be so close to the invoice that any difference won't matter. California cars will have an additional $150 included in the MSRP for PZEV ($135 invoice price for that). From the likely invoice price as calculated above, current shoppers can try to get the best deal +/- a few hundred dollars. Good luck to you all!...Richard
mdconsumer "Honda Accord" Oct 13, 2003 7:11pm
Thanks very much. Kevin
As far as the day/night mirror is concerned, if you go to the honda.com site and choose the option to build your own car you will see that the day/night mirror is an available accessory for the 04 accord. However, the 03 and 04 Accord EX are identical with the exception of XM Satellite Radio that is found in 04's. So I would think that the day/night mirror would be the same for both. Can you tell me which message number this is that talked about the possible problem? We will be taking delivery of the Accord next week, so I would like to know if this is an issue I need to raise with the dealer.
Congratulations!
BTW, my sticker said $460 for destination charge but the salesman told me that all cars that come in to their dealership will now have a $490 destination charge. So the honda web site is now correct.
Car: 2004 Accord EX V6 4-Door Red
Price: 23,880 (incl dest)
Out-the-Door: 26,427 (incl increased dmv, sales tax 8.25%, etc.)
No trade-in
Long version:
(Northern Calif) I started my search for a new vehicle over eight months ago. And to make an even longer story shorter, I was just on the edge of purchasing the Toyota Sienna 4 weeks ago. The economy (general and personal) being what it was, I decided to go the more prudent route of saving myself 10k with a sedan instead.
Then more decisions: Camry or Accord, 2003 or 2004 model year. After hemming and hawing and printing out the specs and perks on both cars (Thank You Edmunds!), I test drove both cars one right after the other. The feel of the car and the price / value (bang for the buck) is what swayed me to the Accord.
Using phone and email, I really only contacted about 5 dealerships (all internet salespeople). If you care to read even more, here are my impressions of the salespeople (I don’t believe that the salesperson is necessarily representative of the whole dealership):
Larry Hopkins Honda (the dealership that is closest to me)
Didn’t seem to want my business: never wanted to get my contact information; never asked for the lowest quote I had already searched for; all in all, just did not seem interested.
Capitol Honda
Of all of the salespeople, seemed to be the pushiest one. Spoke about the other “bad” dealerships and about how their prices were so low, they must be doing something wrong (or something to that effect). Did finally give a competitive price. But kinda made me feel uncomfortable (defensive and I didn’t like the putting down of the other dealerships nor what I perceived to be the bs).
Auto West Honda
Seemed okay, was very, very competitive in pricing; all contact done through email; would not answer the very specific question on whether they had my first preference in color .until I finally called to ask. And yes, I kinda guessed the answer was “No” before I called.
Honda of Stevens Creek
Nice salesperson; Good contact and communication—called a few times to see if I was still interested, but not too often. I got an okay price from them, but the impression that I received was that that was about the lowest they could go so when I did receive even lower quotes, I did not bother to call / email and ask if they could / would beat it.
Anderson Honda
Where I bought my first new car. Great salesperson—no pressure, good personality (a car salesman without appearing like a car salesman), even “laughed” at my stupid stories. They have a very nice low price guarantee. Good communication—not too many phone calls. Very accommodating. All-in-all, I had a very happy buying experience. I, as a customer, was probably a pain in the rear to them, but they didn’t let it show, so that was nice and appreciated.
According to edmunds:
2003 Accord EX-V6: MSRP $26260, Invoice $23675
2004 Accord EX-V6: MSRP $26890, Invoice $24704
Now, why would MSRP go up by $630 while invoice goes up by $1029? Doesn't make any sense.
According to:
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/- - 37579
the invoice for 2004 EXv6 is $24244.
Now, $24244 plus $460 is $24704, which is Edmunds' invoice. It seems that Edmunds added on the old destination of $460 to the $24244, which already includes the new destination of $490.
I think Edmunds should correct the error, since a lot of people rely on their posted invoice prices when bargaining with dealers.
Any moderators out there?
Don't be too p**** though. It's still a lot of car and features for what you paid. Although $920 over invoice probably isn't the best you could have done, it's not as if you got totally ripped off.
To be fair to Edmunds, no internet sites are free from error, especially sites that post lots of numbers. I still think Edmunds is by far best car internet site out there.