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Make sure they check the calipers as well. My 89 Cougar went through two sets before they realized that the passenger front caliper was not retracting properly after pressing the brakes.
Good Luck!
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2007 Honda Civic EX - Atomic Blue
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I know you are not supposed to "pump" the brakes with ABS, not that I had the time to do this, but I was a little shocked to see the vehicle "skid" into the other. Maybe the wet surface was a factor. Thoughts?
Keep in mind that you're trying to stop a 4,000+ lb vehicle; and, while ABS can be pretty miraculous in what it does, it cannot perform miracles against Nature (Physics).
Doors-- Mine stuck, they performed a slip-tape fix. Its some sort of heavy duty tape thats placed over the seals that are sticking. Then they apply the grease as usual. The seal that causes the most if not all the problems is the hard thin one that runs along the inside/top part of the door(not the frame mind you, the actual door). The tape has held well over the past 1 1/2 years, no sign of it coming off. Doors have never stuck since.
Now in August 2001, my wife drove for a meeting at a friend's house 6 miles away. When she came home she parked the van in the garage. I went to get something from the van, and left the sliding door open to let the van air out from a weekend trip taken two days earlier. The interior lights always time out and shut off after 1 minute, and I checked later when I was in the garage to be sure the lights were off. Two days later when we went to start the van, the van would barely turn over, not enough to start. Again I jump-started the van and drove it to the dealer (8 miles). I shut it off in their drive, and it re-started with no problem. Another electrical system test and a call to the Honda Tech-line determined that leaving the door open cause the battery drain (even though there was no open door for the first two instances), and I should turn the light switch on the dash to off to ensure the interior lights did not drain the battery. (i.e. they still cannot find any problem).
Has anyone had a problem like this with their Odyssey, and if so, what was done to correct it?
My only other solution is to replace the battery with a battery that has an emergency backup, since the van requires only one jump-start and then appears good to go for another 3 months.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
Jeff
I have the same problem at 13,000 miles. I had the rotors turned. By the feel of the brakes now I don't think this is going to work. I will probably go back and ask for new rotors and brake pads. I do know it all has to do with too much heat for the rotors and they warp. Why? I don't know. Most of the driving is around town which can contribute but at 13,000 miles? Maybe poor rotor material? Anyone with info please let me know.
In snow and gravel, when wheels lock, the material on the ground builds up under the tires and helps slow the vehicle. Since ABS-equipped vehicle wheels continue to roll, this pile up on snow or dirt does not occur. Fancy SUVs (eg Lexus) have special ABS systems that allow for short skids before ABS kick in to allow this to occur.
jcnorman, if you did not feel the pedal pulsate, the ABS probably did not kick in - it is possible you did not skid. (As an aside, you CANNOT miss the pedal pulsation in the Odyssey's ABS - it has been a complaint in several reviews I have read and I feel it on mine as well.) If you are sure you skidded, then ABS may have malfunctioned (or I guess not functioned at all). Has the ABS light been on? Brakes should still work the old fashioned way even if ABS fails. Try a hard stop on a slippery surface (gravel or wet leaves/grass/mud during the summer). If skid but no pedal pulsation, visit your dealer.
Len
ChickenLittle.
To my knowledge, no Lexus vehicles have this capability. The MB M-class SUV does have a special off-road ABS algorithm that does allow the front wheels to cyclically lockup, but it is not recommended for use in the snow since you lose all steering ability (I know from personal experience). The new Jeep Liberty also has a similar system, but only in low range as well.
ABS only makes sure that each wheel doesn't lock up. Electronic stability control is what helps to keep the vehicle in the course/line the driver intended. However, as others have said, it cannot defeat the laws of physics either.
Good luck,
Drew
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interior trim ... There is a rattle from the right dash vent area. stop and go driving.
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removed right from strut to remove burrs on body per service new. test drove with no further noises.
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Dtphys: Your van has a problem and the dealer should fix it.
My brakes and Firestone tires are both in good shape. I only have over 43K miles. I even have the much coveted, now dicontinued,highly valuable, and sought by collectors Canyon Stone Silver Metallic color.
To clarify it a little bit, my 3 yr old opened the door with the handle as my wife pushed the button on the remote to open the door at the same time. The door opened 5 inches and froze, then my wife pushed the button again trying to open it and the door started closing, meanwhile my son poked his face in the van and my wife ran to the car to stop the door. The door actually shut on his nose and part of his face (his lips, etc.) This sounds weird because you would think the door would reverse but it didn't. My wife tried to use the handle to open the door and it would not budge. She ended up pulling him backwards and the tip of his nose is black & blue and his lips are bruised. Thank god his nose isn't broken and he seems ok but I am very concerned now.
My 3 yr old knows how to open and close the doors by himself and though I always worried a little that he could get hurt I always thought if god forbid something happened the door would reverse.
I tried to email Honda of America but their website does not have a place where you are able to do this. What is the first step I should take?
Do these doors have a sensitivity adjustment ?
Overall we are very happy with our van but are concerned this could happen again or even worse my 17 month old whom is much smaller could get hurt.
What do you guys recommend as the first step ?
As a note also, your doors did as it is supposed to when the events happened as stated.If the door is stopped in its travel, it will upon next push of the remote travel in the oposite direction that it was traveling. The dash switch and the remote is the only way to stop the door from moving once in motion.
Glad your son is ok.
With the child proof lock on you can still:
-Use the door handle outside to open & close
-Use the buttons on the dash & remote to open & close
-Use the inside door handle to close the door
In the other words, the only thing the child lock does is prevent the child from opening the door from the inside. You would think that the lock would preent more than that.
Also, I've tried this on my friends Odyssey to see if my van had a problem and his child proof locks work the same exact way.
Thanks for the advice though I appreciate any suggestions anyone could give me
While I can feel the fright your wife and yourself went through (I have 3 kids 3 and under), imagine if your child had done the same thing while someone slammed shut the van door on a LX. Your child would have been seriously hurt.
My son was 3 when we got the van. From day 1 we have stressed that he not touch the doors on the van, as well as not playing in any car - not just ours. After hearing the stories of kids getting locked in trunks, etc - we took the time to emphasize the above.
We're lucky - my son has yet to open any car door by himself or climb into a car without us telling him to. My suggestion to you is to either keep the van locked when it is parked or turn off the power doors with the dash switch when parked.
Good Luck.
Fast foward to 2001. Power sliding doors. Dad?
Every new convenience comes at a price. When we got our Odyssey we made it clear to the kids thay they had to stay aaway from the doors and were not allowed to operate the doors EVER. I do not let the kids touch the door handles. With three little ones, sure, the potential for problems exist, but as an earlier poster notes, manual sliders have their risks too. Who has not seen a kid get a finger caught in a sedan door? Safety first.
Incidentally, I always shout a warning before closing vent windows to be sure no little fingers are taking in the breeze. No, Honda would not let me get the old cranks for the back windows.
Good luck.
Your dealer will have to adjust the striker on that door so that it closes tighter.
When you turn left, the outward momentum on the passenger-side sliding door is causing it to lift off a plunger switch just enough to cause the interior lights to turn on and off rapidly. This plunger switch is located at the back of the door. The clicking behind the steering wheel is the switch relay rapidly going on and off. You may also notice the little red door-open indicator flickering on the dash.
My temporary solution was to tape a penny on the inside of the door where it contacts the switch, to keep the switch pushed in farther when the door is closed. The permanent solution was to have the dealer adjust the door striker inward a tad so that the door closed "in" a little further, thus pushing the switch in further when the door is closed.
I've had no problem since. When this first happened, I thought I had some electrical gremlins in the dash. But the cause and solution were very simple. Basically just a simple door adjustment
Sure sounds like you have the same problem. Hope this helps.
All of a sudden (when I took the van out one morning) I noticed a distinct difference in the way it was running. I immediately thought it was engine or transmission related. I would explain it as running with more 'resistance'. It also had a new hum/vibration which I could hear and feel though the steering and pedals. The humming/vibration becomes particularly noticable at about 70kph (45mph) and above. The problem is noticable whether in D3 or D4.
I'm suspecting that when I take the van into the dealer they will say there is nothing wrong (although I can definitely feel/hear a difference).
Any ideas as to what this would be? It seems transmission related? Any suggestions I could give the the Honda dealer? Thanks.
One of the first things I thought of after it happened was what if that was a regular(not electric) door that slammed on my son it could have been a lot worse just like Slocko pointed out.
Miniman you have a great point about the electric windows from your dad's viewpoint back in the day, it really puts things into prospective.
Robr made another great point about teaching the kids not to play with the doors - this is a mistake my wife & I are very guilty of but after hearing that, we have changed !!!
Thanks again . . . I appreciate it.
Isn't it the same thing about buying new clothes or shoes? I don't like other people tried on the clothes or shoes I want to buy. But on the other side of the coin, I will not buy any clothes (especially suites) or shoes I havn't tried on, of course excluding underwears. That's why always have clearance sales at clothes stores.
Dealer should have a DEMO van/car for their customer.