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There is a good reason for the price difference and you can only understand what I mean if you see it yourself.
For one thing, the GX is a lot more luxurious than the MDX. Take a good look and feel of the leather. The GX is just better.
I saw a 2002 MDX a few months ago. Took a good look at the leather. It was crap. Total crap.
I hate the perforated leather of the MDX. I just hate those holes in the leather. People say they tear easily too. The GX has solid thick leather. The leather on my 7 year old Lexus looks better than the leather on this one year old MDX I saw.
That's why I have been looking at the GX ever since, but I'm here just to check out the pricing of the MDX for bargaining talk on the GX.
Now I'm hearing someone got $500 below invoice on the MDX? Wow! Great news.
The best deal I've got as an actual offer for the MDX was $2,000 off MSRP. The best deal I've got for the GX was $4,000 off MSRP. I've HEARD people getting $5,000 off MSRP and as high $7,000 off MSRP on the topped out model with the MSRP of $53K.
Another example, the MDX has fake woodtrim and the GX has real genuine woodtrim.
The MDX doesn't have side curtain airbags and the GX does.
Just get the GX.
But with the GX not exactly flying out of showrooms I wonder if the "market" for mid-sized V8 powered truck based SUVs is too small.
Throw in the laughable third seat, bad-going-on-shameful MPG, and VERY VERY high price "fully optioned" and that picture gets even less rosy.
Granted the leather & interior is quite nice.The sound system is among the best OEM offerings available. The off-road capability is world class. The power is superb.
I would really hate to spend $46K and find out resale quickly evaporates... Spend $39K for a "fully loaded" MDX and that value is going be solid.
If you don't need the added utility an MDX offers over a GX and you feel the added cost of a GX is worth the additional luxury you will be happier with the GX. For us, it was the car like driving feel and the utility that sold us on the MDX.
Resale prices of MDXs are slipping and both will have substantial depreciation, though with the recent dramatic increase in gasoline prices, the lower mpg GX may take a bigger hit.
As soon as I saw the condition of the seats of that one used 2002 MDX at the Acura dealer, I was extremely disappointed walking away.
Well, I do hope the GX has less and less demands!
More discounts for me!!!!! ****heee***heee***
Yeah, I personally got a salesman offer me $4K off MSRP for the GX. That's without me breaking a sweat trying!
I'm sure I can easily get $5K off MSRP. And by next year when the market is even more saturated with SUVs and the gasoline prices remain high, I can probably get $6K off MSRP--perhaps even $7K off MSRP if the GX moves as slow as some people think!
Let's see which would I rather have? An MDX @ $3K off MSRP or a GX at $6K off MSRP?
Thus, the difference now becomes about $6-7K, not $10K. For the added luxury, I think $6-7 K is well worth it, don't you?
Of course, some people do prefer the ride of the MDX and some prefer the ride of the GX.
They are both outstanding SUVs. Oh, I wish Acura would make the MDX an 8 seater, not 7! Who's idea was it to make it a 7-seater and the Pilot an 8 seater?
Yeah, synthetic vs real wood is really no big deal. But excellent quality leather vs. not so great leather+non-leather parts is a huge issue.
I can't believe the seats of the MDX is not all leather, I mean at least the parts where you sit down!
So fake wood and real leather plus fake leather with holes? So for the $6-7K difference, you get a much bigger engine, a real off-road SUV, and true luxury appointed leather and wood, and the Lexus prestige.
Okay, guys, buy the MDX and avoid the GX like the plague please! I wish no body buys the GX so that they start selling them at invoice or maybe $500 below invoice.
The GX sucks! The MDX is great! Buy only the MDX!
Buy anything except the GX!!!
****heee****heee***heee***LOL***
Just sumthin' to think about.
The third row in the MDX is essentially the same width as the third row in the Pilot. Honda adds a third seat belt and calls it a three person seat, but it is virtually the same as the MDX two person seat.
My old 1984 Toyota Van had a real three person third row. The van was 9 inches narrower than today's Chrysler T&C, but the third row seat was 9 inches wider. There are a few vehicles with third rows wide enough for three normal size adults, but for most, having three seat belts doesn't mean three adults will fit.
Same with the GX. Although the MDX is wider, having that 3rd seatbelt makes it legal for three smaller persons in the 3rd row.
We wouldn't want to break any laws, now would we?
Gotta have that seat belt. Uncomfortable, yes, but legal.
If you can truely find a way to justify paying 10,000 more for a GX, then you have truely beaten the law of supply and demand. Of the Toyota and Lexus' line up of six SUVs. The GX has got to be near the bottom of that ladder. A perfect example of more money doesn't always buy you more.
The bigger engine in the GX does not translate into more horsepower, just more torque. If a bigger engine mean performance only when I tow and bad gas mileage the rest of the time, then I guess I prefer the smaller engine.
I think your wish is coming true, GX's sale numbers even disappointed Lexus. They might be offering large incentive on them very soon.
Our need to have the capability to carry seven adult size people will end by the end of the year and I have found that our tiny PT GT can carry larger (taller and longer) objects than the MDX. It doesn't snow around here and doesn't rain much either, so 4WD isn't needed either. When the time comes to replace the MDX I'll probably get a wagon if I still need to have some hauling capability
BTW, I agree with you that the added GX luxury is worth the added cost. I consider how the dealer treats customers as one of the luxury items for the GX. My Acura dealer's service leaves a lot to be desired while my friends have had outstanding service from their Lexus dealers
All season floor mats, cargo tray, wheel locks, and cargo cover- no charge;
Black side steps installed- $559.00
Body side moulding- $80.00
doc fee $50.00
30 day temp tags from ohio $20.25
total purchase price: $41,309.25
I had planned to fly to columbus and drive back in September, but the salesman told us that if we would take delivery by the end of August, that he would drive it to us(which he did) for no charge! I gave the DC area dealers an opportunity to beat that deal, but no one came close. The best local deal we received was 41k for the mdx, and accessories at cost.
From start to finish, the experience was excellent. From a referral on this site, I emailed the salesman and received a phone message in 15 minutes, and an email price quote in 30 minutes, after a couple of conversations to get information on the buying process, we agreed to the deal. He sent the purchase order and supporting documents to us via Fed Ex, and provided a return Fed Ex envelope to return the signed documents. Once they were received, we set a delivery date, which was 8/26. When he arrived, he went over the vehicle with us, and we gave him the check from the credit union. He had his girlfriend follow him from Ohio, and they spent the night in the area, and they drove back the next day.
just a FYI - I bought a 2003 MDX Silver/Ebony
Touring with DVD & Nav from Marty Sussman Acura
in Maple Shade, NJ for $1500 below MSRP. I also
got a really good price for my trade-in: $200
*more* than the Blue Book value!
also, I got a quote of $1700 below MSRP from
Acura of Newport RI. [had already committed
to the first guy, so passed this one].
regards,
Rahul.
p.s. the sales guy was very easy to deal with,
feel free to email me if you need
specifics.
Or they could go BONKERS and ladle on a HUGE price increase for the modest increase in features (which would likely result in LARGE precentage discounts from MSRP, as the competition would represent a better value)
Let us know.
Let us know.
I'm just going wait to see the price of the 2004. After reading the changes from 2003 - 2004, I really want a 2004 now.
1. Go to www.hondacuraworld.com.
2. Print out their price list for MDX accessories(they are much cheaper than the dealer)
3. Take the price list to your dealer, and ask them to match the price, or you will order it from the website(when faced with losing money, some dealers will price match).
4. If it is a large accessory(side steps,for example) go to the service department(don't ask your salesperson) and ask them how much would it cost to install the item. note- at the website they have installation instructions for the accessories which you can print out for free and install yourself, if you choose.
I did this when I purchased my 2002 TL. I got the mud flaps, and fenderwell trim at the website price from my dealer. I printed the instructions, and installed the mud flaps myself. I got lazy with the fenderwell trim, and had the service dept install it fo $40 when I came in for an oil change. REMEMBER- service departments will install parts and accessories purchased elsewhere as long as it is a genuine acura part.
ps- if you order from the website, the shipping is free, and I think that you do not have to pay any sales tax.
It is worth doing bolt on stuff yourself.
When it came to the chrome sidesteps they were stuck hard on their inflated price. Everything else about the deal looked good so I just ordered the steps from Tim and spent about 30 minutes bolting the brakets together in the kitchem and 1:30 in the garage bolting the actual step pieces to the brackets and undercarriage.
Acura has the threaded holes in the underbody (with neat little "keep the dirt out" plugs inserted at thefactory) so it is no more complicated then assembling an Ikea kitchen cabinet!
The whole family helped and we saved HUNDREDS!
+ freight $ 500
+ Side Steps approx inv$ 350
+ AllW Mats " " $ 35
+ Whl Locks " " $ 10
total $35,095
Would I be happy that the dealer is making only about $1,400 -- considering that the MSRP would have 'em raking in $3798 and many many folks gladly paid that. YOU BET!
Unless you will be kicking yourself for not getting a "fresh"(as in a year less of depreciation, forever) 2004 (with its extra HP, dual exhausts, better audio system, more sound insulation, new flangeless wheels, better leather, upgraded instrument panel & interior illumination, woven side pillar covers (that ought noth nick so easily) new headlights & taillights design...)
John Eagle
Gillman
Charlie Thomas
Southwest
Thanks.
IT IS AN EXCELLENT DEAL! Realistic profit yes, but still a TREMENDOUS DISCOUNT from MSRP.
I doubt that many (?any) folks will do better. Well, there is ONE person who claims that a dealer sold a FULLY LOADED 03 MDX (Tour Navi, RES) for UNDER MSRP. (they claim A LOT under, (like more than yours in over...) and I just don't think that would happen, even for friends & family of the dealer, but I don't want to call anyone a fibber...)
I would very much have liked to been able to get the price you are being quoted presented to me. I bought in early July and paid more(mine has Navi & trailer tow pkg DIO, I put chrome side steps DIY). I don't regret having an 03, though some of the 04 improvements do seem worthwhile.
I was only posting the other info so that you would NOT get a case of "buyers remorse" for not waiting.
It is a VERY GOOD PRICE. You will be HAPPY! Good Luck.
Was not posted here...
ps- Thanks for the reply also regarding do it yourself installation of accessories.
Please email me the dealer name & location.
rocky1908@yahoo.com.
I am interested to buy MDX.
Thanks
Rocky
No promotion of individual salespeople please.
Steve, Host
Rizza give me a very nice deal, took my trade for a fair price and behaved very well. Before you forget over MSRP at ony other dealer you ought to give 'em a shot.
you can email me at anuppanjwani@hotmail.com
thanks
anup
Worst case the 2003 will NOT get more expensive BUT it might get sold and then you'd be stuck waiting for an 04 -- youcan walk a fine line between letting the dealer know that you WOULD buy the 03 "for the right price" and having to come back to the same dealer for an 04...
Also, the salesperson called me yesterday and indicated that the sales manager wants to move all cars. He wants me to come back in and meet with the manager to see how they can make the car "more affordable" for me. Advice. Thanks again.
Personally I doubt that most dealers would let go of MDXs at invoice. (I might be wrong, they do get "holdback" that makes even invoice profitable, and if they have vehicles sitting around collecting dust, they have to finance that cost...) I would think that any dealer (well maybe that the spoiled rich guys in San Francisco Bay area) would be happy to sell for $2500 over invoice, that would be about $1500 under MSRP. With the model year ending I would goes that they might halve their "over", almost doubling your savings to slightly less than $3000 off MSRP.
If you are exceptionally good at the "poker face" strategy as I first suggested then you might do much better...
Good Luck!
We have a quote from a dealership in CT for a 2003 Acura MDX Touring w/ Navigation of $39,000. Is this a good price, or should I go for a 2004 model? Also, we looked at the Honda Pilot, and we can order a 2004 model with Leather and Navigation around $33,000. These two SUVs are very similar. Is it worth the price difference? Very importantly, do you have any idea how much the difference in resale value would be bw. these two in 3 years. Most likely, we are going to lose more with the MDX than the Pilot. Any ideas? I can't do much research about the resale value since these are both fairly new to the market.
Thanks.
There also are some complaints about body roll and handling. The MDX is much better handling in my opinion. Though I only test drove a Pilot, but my MDX does drive almost as well as a sport sedan.
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I agree handling feels very good at normal and low speeds, but it does gets rather sloppy when the MDX is pushed hard around corners and hard bends in he road. Lots of body lean and not as much grip as one would expect based on how good the MDX feels in normal driving. Also, while the brakes feel great in regular and somewhat aggressive driving, emergency stops are longer than expected.
I suspect the cornering and braking performance could be significantly improved with more performance oriented tires (and wider rims). The lean would still be there, but that could be helped with thicker sway bars. Personally, I like the compromise provided by the Michelin Cross Terrain tires: Reasonably good performance, great ride, long tread life.