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For a thorough discussion of this problem and how others have dealt with it I suggest you visit roadfly.com and go to their message board for the BMW 645. Search for battery or electrical problems.
I just returned from picking up my car in Munich in August 2004. I drove it for a week and dropped it off in Paris. It is being shipped back to my dealership.
Please see roadfly.com for more info on 6 (and 5) series Euro Delivery. The BMW web site has a good intro on Euro Delivery as well.
Robert
-Paul
Here's the link to the Edmunds forum on this subject:
BMW Owners: European Delivery Forum
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Patelli
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kyfdx
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ED base MSRP is $4895 less than US base MSRP
ED base invoice is $4635 less than US base invoice
Hope this helps,
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Thanks.
Should be an interesting experience.
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Battery Dead three times for no reason
Idrive crashes at least 3 times a week
Dashboard lights do not go on
Harzard message that steering has failed 2x had to be towed
total miles 4,800
Dealer just re programmed the car and replaced the I drive again, lets see what happends. Shame BMW had to ruin a good thing
It will turn out to be "overseas".. Please send a deposit Western Union, etc..
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is it possible to get one under msrp?
i tried the same system for an m3 and the result: well, also msrp for tmv, but i checked dealers manually and they gave me a quote of $2k over invoice.
any other way to get a price? dealers insist on sticker
thanks
Did you try faxing various dealers in your area and making an offer for a certain car with all options you want?
1) Suspension and road feel were great, as one expects in a BMW. I felt that the 6 series drove as surely as the e39 5 series, but with a slightly more forgiving ride, except on sharp bumps, where the ride was a little jarring. I think that jarring was due more to the run flat tires than any flaw in the suspension.
2) Steering was a little numb IMO. I don't know whether that's due to active steering or the run flat tires. I like active steering in theory, just not sure whether it's working as advertised. I think it takes some time to get used to, and I didn't drive the 645 often enough to get used to it.
3) Interior materials. IMO, the materials in the 6 series interior are excellent, certainly better than the materials quality in the e60 525i and 530i that I have seen. I don't know how the 645 interior compares to the 545 as I haven't driven a 545, but I imagine they should be pretty similar. The dashboard and speedometer seem to be extremely similar, if not identical, to my dad's 745Li, so it looks like BMW used the 745i interior in the 645, which would account for its high quality. My only complaint would be with the gray wood finish. I'm sure it's real wood, but gray wood with a high glossy finish made it look fake.
4) Interior design - Other than i-drive, I had no real complaints about the interior design. The automatic window buttons were at a weird angle, but I got used to it. The interior design is certainly better than in my dad's 745Li (first year edition) which is an interior ergonomic mess.
I know some of you here state that i-drive 2.0 is better. I have experienced i-drive 1.0 in my dad's 745Li and I assure you that v 1.0 sucks in every conceivable way. I didn't really have time to try out i-drive 2.0, but at this point, I've had such bad experiences with i-drive 1.0 that I just can't see how i-drive is a positive.
I fail to see how the additional electronic complexity of i-drive, which increases the likelihood of electronic gremlins and expensive repair costs, is offset by the alleged advantages of i-drive, whatever they are.
FWIW, my sister does not like i-drive 2.0. She puts up with it because she has to, but if she had her choice, it'd be gone.
5) Hill descent control - I disliked this function. With the hill descent control slowing the car down whenever my foot was off the pedal, I could no longer hit the gas, ease off, and then hit the gas again. It felt like the car was downshifting into a lower gear every time I took my foot off the gas.
BMW is supposed to be a driver's vehicle. I want to control how fast the car goes by hitting the gas, brakes and shifting appropriately. The hill descent control interfered with that.
Since my sister's 645 is an automatic combined with the hill descent control, it almost felt like this car was driving itself, so despite the power of the engine and the ride quality of a BMW, this was an incredibly boring car to drive IMO.
I wonder what a manual 645 would have been like.
6) Exterior Looks - This is the best of the Bangled cars no doubt. However, I still hate the Bangle butt and rear taillights look contrived IMO. The piece slapped on the top of the Bangle butt looks like the bustle of a fat woman's porky behind IMO; it just sticks out like a sore thumb.
Overall: Great car, nice interior, get rid of i-drive and the bustle on the butt and fix the taillights and you have an unbeatable machine. Also, lower the price.
-Paul
But it's his money to burn.
Can anyone help?
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Handling is very good, engine note is glorious and the transmission nice and crisp. I hear there is new V8 coming next year with around 400HP, which might make this car even more interesting.
The better car than either of these two is my CL600, which of course is incredibly expensive and should be better. Once you drive that twin turbo V-12, you never want to go back to mere V-8's. Boy am I spoiled or what?
I defintely feel the same way about the I-drive. I've driven the S430, S500 and 745i. The 7 is more a driver's car and but I found the interior so un-intuitive. I'm into gadgets and thought I'd have no problems with I-drive. Boy was I wrong - I am not a fan of the interior controls at all. The S class interior was such a cinch to figure out in comparison. But without ABC, the S has too much body roll for my taste. I'm sure the 6 is a better handling car compared to the sedans.
Enjoy your new ride and let us know how it holds up.
there are many reasons the 645 won me over
Looks, I love Jet Black with sport package
This coupe is not too small or big just right.
Big trunk and emergency back seat lets you use this as your primary car, unlike vette.
It turns on a dime, important when uturning in busy intersections, It accelerates from any speed
and handles bumps and dips effortlessly, watch out vette owners 3.5 inch clearance you will be bottoming out allot!!! Unlike Mercedes which has so many options, the bmw has just a few and they are great! Love the standard parking warning system.
Some are not excited about looks, I think allot of coupe are going to the too round and clean look which if you like feminine shapes may work.
Jaguar Xk old and new model upcoming, Aston martin.. give me some lines and cuts something agressive not a jelly bean, vette looks great and so does bmw!! Cls is interesting look...almost bought one, two ladies in my office bought one ( chick car I believe)
You must get the satellite radio, I wanted sirius and thats what you get!! When I saw all elvis channel I knew I had to have it! I also like Howard Stern so only place to hear him will be on sirius.
I am awaiting delivery of my car two more weeks!
I think I will be fine with Idrive, big bright screen that you can manipulate with one hand....
will see.
I could only get 1,000 off sticker, the biggest dealer crevier said full sticker only
so my mini reveiw
M