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Thanks.
> Can you tell me if the cummins diesel registry
> has a web site? I am looking for some detailed
> information on the Cummins ETC. I have looked a
> the Cummins web site already.
Keith -
The Turbo Diesel Registry doesn't have a web site with technical info - it just advertises the TDR.
What info do you need? If nobody here has it, a good source is the Cummins 800-diesels number. They are almost always helpful.
Also, for general interest, Cummins publishes a number of bulletins, some of which amount to a shop manual section on the particular item. Ask at the 800-diesels number for bulletin info, and ask them for the 800# needed to order bulletins.
Charlie Smith
They told me my V10 had no restrictions showing on screen. When I mentioned your hold problem they checked another system (figures!). And lo and behold they found a V10 restriction. They then asked me for the tranny type (mine is auto).
After a wait they told me that while there was a general restriction, it was showing up for my vehicle. Therefore all I can do is call back around 8/24 (my est. ship date) and see what's up. Was told that the hold would probably be due to a lack of parts but as of now I guess I'm in limbo. Also...it seems the V10 hold is for QC's
Sorry, after reading the original message I sent you, I led you to believe that the messages I posted earlier were in this topic. Most of the messages were in the Dodge Ram II topic. You might want to look through there.
The discussion in a nutshell...
Vehicle: Cummins, Auto, 3:54LS.
The Dealerships tell you to always tow with the Auto O/D turned off. Went out on the highway with the O/D off. At 55mph I was running 2300rpm's, 60mph @ 2500rpm, and 65mph @ 2700rpm.
The Cummins red lines at 3200rpm's and the power curve drops considerably after 2700rpm's. My complaint was that it just didn't seem right to run the crap out of the truck simply to maintain highway speeds. You can get more details by reading the postings in the Dodge Ram II topic.
Brett
kcram
Comunity Leader/Smart Shopper Conference
OFF ROAD GROUP -inc: 4.10 sure grip axle, "Off Road" badge, fog lamps,HD service group, fuel tank skid plate, LT275/70R17
on/off road tires, tow hooks,17" aluminum wheels (REQ: 2_G SLT Quick-Order Pkg) (N/A w/BGK 4-Wheel Anti-Lock Brakes)
Who to believe??? I have a 2000 6 speed on order, and it's supposed to be built with the ETC. However today, DC indicated the 6-speed is back on restriction. Seems like the DC info changes hourly. KCRAM, any comments??
Is this an axle and spring upgrade?
Is the current axle with the heavy diesel rated such that a snow plow is going to cause bearing failures? Thanks.
If you offroad get the limited slip and the HD service group wi=hich has a tranny cooler. Aslo get the p265 offroad tires.
Rich
Anyone have knowledge as to what colors are being offered with the sport package for a 2500 model? I'm guessing that flame red, white, black, and intense blue are available as they were on the '99's. However, it seems that solar yellow is only available as an additional choice on 1500 sport models.
I wouldn't think they'd discontinue it for 2K. Wood grain is supposed to be part of the leather pkg. Larger 265 tires will be standard with the SLT pkg. for 2K (at least D/C says mine will have them). Edmunds has pricing for 99, no 2K yet. I think you should print out the Edmunds info & bring it to the dealer (worked for me).
If you go to "media" (if I remember correctly) and check press releases there is a section that lists the msrp of every D/C make and model. This will list base vehicle price and destination charge only.
Kcram,
FOREST Green (I can tell the difference) most certainly WAS available in the sport pkg. (for 99 anyway - I suppose they could have dropped it for 2000 but I can't imagine why). I can go to a lot right now that has a least a half dozen forest green sports sitting right there.
Aside from colors I trust your info! Have you heard anything regarding 16x8 alum. wheels (or 16x7 for that matter) replacing the chrome wheels on the 2500 slt? Have heard rumblings about 16x8 but that seems like an awfully wide wheel for a 265 tire.
Interior colors...agate and camel
Black Clear Coat(px8),Bright White Clear Coat(pw7),
DK. Garnet Red Pearl Coat (prv), Flame Red Clear Coat (pr4), Intense blue pearl coat (pb3)(agate Interior only.), light Driftwood satin glow (pfa/pfk), patriot Blue Pearl coat (pb7/pbt)agate Interior only.), Seirra Bronze Pearl Coat (ptl)( Tan inter. only) Forest green pearl coat (pg8)
two tone
Interior agate & camel....Blues agate only
All colors except light Driftwood satin glow
second color is light Driftwood satin glow
Sport
Black Clear Coat(px8) Interior Agate, Camel/tan, Mist Gray
Bright White Clear Coat(pw7)Interior Agate, Camel/tan, Mist Gray
Flame Red Clear Coat (pr4)Interior Agate, Camel/tan, Mist Gray
Forest green pearl coat (pg8)Interior Agate, Camel/tan, Mist Gray
Intense blue pearl coat (pb3)Interior Agate, Mist Gray
My bad on the Forest Green - absolutely correct it's available as a Sport color. I was thinking of the other discontinued green shade.
mark,
Have not heard any info on the wheels yet. I'm interested to see what they do as well, because the (currently delayed) diesel/snow plow/Quad combo would require stronger wheels than are currently used.
kcram
Community Leader/Smart Shopper Conference
Leather trim with AJD Camel & agate
Leather Bench with 2_H Camel & Agate
By the way, the price of the 6-speed tranny went up a little also. invoice = $340 retail = $400. All of the other options I chose stayed the same price as '99.
Is mist gray still available as an interior color? I ordered that color with premium cloth split bench. Hope its still ok, I didn't see it in your list.
Can someone else confirm this is legit? I am interested in purchasing soon too.
I have been waiting on the pricing info for along time (just like everyone else and their dog) but was wondering, how reliable is the price of $4135 with a discount of $595? I have already placed my order for a 2500 QC 4x4, but it would certainly be nice to know what I am getting my checkbook into!!
Any other information related to the 2000 pricing would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Hope that helps.
Also listed was "ATK SLT Plus Decor Group" at $1665.
The sales manager that quoted this if off today, so I'll get it clarified tomorrow (Saturday). I can't make heads or tails out of the items listed on this quote, because I can't tell what's in each package. He said I could get sales literature Saturday, and that may clear it up a bit.
On the $300 advertising charge - that sounds about right. Edmunds detail discussion of pricing covers something like that, at least they did a couple years ago.
Charlie Smith
Columbus, Ohio
Then KCRAM helpfully suggested:
> charlie,
>
>stop by your dealer and inquire about two TSBs
>Techical Service Bulletins): 18-11-99 and
>18-02-99. The first will reprogram the Cummins
>computer for proper settings; the second will
>reprogram the Mopar computer for the transmission
>setings. Many who have had these TSBs performed
>have reported improved power and economy.
KCRAM - when you suggested this, I was out of town. Since returning to Columbus and looking at stickers on the truck, I can see that an ECU reflash was done for each of these TSB's. Thanks for your suggestions. Since these were done, I believe power is a little better - 0-60's are now running in the low 16's. But around town mileage is still in the very low 12's.
Charlie Smith
Columbus, Ohio
Don't panic too much about the mileage. Even my 12-valve will give me results like that if the entire tank is local streets. The reason is, the engine has trouble building enough heat to be completely efficient if you only use it for short bursts. On the highway, it's at a steady rpm for long stretches and can better reach operating temperature. Even in 100-degree heat, I have never seen my temp gauge clear 180. In contrast to those occasional 12 and 13mpg city tanks, I have no trouble getting the low 20s on a straight highway run, and I have basically the same truck (1996 3500 Club Cab 4x4, 3.54 limited slip, automatic).
kcram
Community Leader/Smart Shopper Conference
Cummins Dodge 2500. Fords next, but first...
Couple questions: What kind of real world
difference is the 24 valve going to make? are they
going to need adjusted more often than the previous
models? is it really that much more efficient
(having problems finding EPs on these)
Second, the warranty. Cummins backs this for 100k.
Thats all good, but the dealer I came from said
that they'll take a 500k motor and recycle it. Now
those arent rebuilt and put back into the lineup,
are they?...Naw, they wouldnt do that, right?
The only dilemma in my buying decision is, of
course, the Ford. The 2 guys I know that have them
are leasing...and really dont care about warranties
because they plan on throwing the fish back after
3 years...Would that V-8 Eat itself alive after 3
years of tuggin? probably not. How about after a 72
month adventure in Payments?!!!
Nonstandard use of OEM paint ...
Different tire sizes ...
Individual order codes for things normally just listed in packages ...
This option listing showed the order code, and both the invoice and list prices.
Does anybody know what the URL is for this info?
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As a second question, the normal dealership computer screens used for placing an order don't go into this kind of detail - so the regular sales person doesn't have any ideas how to order something that isn't on their computer - how is this supposed to be handled? Are there dealerships, perhaps around Detroit, that are able to place non-standard orders for Rams?
Charlie Smith
Columbus, Ohio
I know they have 2000 prices at www.carprices.com i cant help you with the second question, sorry
Eric G
Can't wait to drive it!!
Mike :-)