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I'm hooked on the Legacy as a daily driver. It's comfortable, handles well and has enough pep for expressway driving. However, if you don't care so much about rising gas prices and have a need to consistently carry three other people or a trunkload of stuff, you might consider the 3.0 instead. The 2.5i Legacy can be a little sluggish with a full load of people or stuff. What's odd is that I don't get the same feeling with our loaded Outback, even though it has the same engine.
As you've probably seen, the fit and finish of the Audi interior is better than the '09 Subaru's. If you need something better inside, you might consider waiting for the 2010 which, I believe, will be available starting in June. You won't get the same deals, but the interior has been upgraded and is closer to (although still does not match) Audi luxury. Also, the 2010 is expected to offer a higher output 3.0 with regular gas.
You will certainly save money with the Legacy over the Audi. I owned an A6, and while I loved the capuccino machine in the service waiting area, I paid through the nose for maintenance. By contrast, an oil change and a package of inspections at our Subaru dealer is $32.
Get your dealer to let you take the Limited for a reasonably long test drive on varying roads. That's what convinced me. Also be aware that, as you drive the Limited over a prolonged period, the car's computer will "learn" your driving style and perform shifts accordingly. I saw a noticeable positive difference in performance in the first few months. Either that, or I just got used to living with and enjoying the Legacy.
Good luck with your purchase.
I was wondering if anyone has purchased the car in the philly area? If so, what price did you get( if you do not mind me asking)??
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I went to my local dealer and was quote 18988 but they would not give me the low financing. They said its either the 2.9 financing or the incentives.
Is this correct?
Also, according to Subaru.com the incentives end June 1st. Beings that the redesign is coming out in a few months; does anyone know if they are going to extend the low financing?
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And very likely yes, the incentives ought to be extended until the 2010s become abundant.
19,000 (sale price)
99 (service fee)
1,051 (tax 5.5%)
163 (DMV)
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$ 20,313 out the door
I also received the 2.9% financing. Good luck with your purchase.
Specifics are as follows:
2009 Legacy 2.5 SE Auto (9AD) (Typical options only - floor mats, wheel locks, auto dimming mirror).
MSRP - $23,344 (approx.)
Sale Price - $21,238
Tax (6%) - $1,274.28
Title/License - $213.95
OTD Price - $22,726.23
Now that I look at the sale price & tax amount they must be charging tax on the delivery fee. Any information would be much appreciated. I'm looking to purchase by the end of the month.
One other question - Has anyone used the "fax attack" technique in negotiating a purchase price?
Thanks again.
1. Go to the subaru.com site and see what special offers are available on the Legacy in your zip code. On my '08, they were doing $1,000 cash back and I negotiated down from there. In my zip code right now, there's $2,000 cash back on virtually all Outbacks, but they are only giving financing and lease deals on the Legacys.
2. Edmunds.com says there's a 2% dealer holdback on Subarus (with differences in some Northeast locations), meaning that the manufacturer is paying your dealer about $467 in profit on your Legacy. Dealers rarely like to dip into the holdback to sell a car, but it may provide you with some ammunition when the sales person says they're not making much of a profit on the deal they've offered you.
3. I've used fitzmall.com as the basis for negotiations with local dealers and they're currently advertising SEs for as low as $18,790 (with a few of them labeled "clearance"), excluding tax, title and license. No matter where you live, you could buy the car there (I believe they're in Maryland) have the car shipped to you for about $1,000 and save almost $1,500 from the deal you currently have. I'm not affiliated with fitzmall, but I did call them when I was looking and they sounded very professional and helpful in terms of doing the transaction and any issues with tax/title/license. By mentioning them to my local sales person, I was able to get more money off my car.
4. If you're handy with cars and are really tight on the dollars, you can buy all of the Subaru accessories cheaper online and install most of them yourself. Alternatively, you can ask the dealer to throw in all of the accessories on your car for free to reduce the price.
Bottom line: I think you could do much better than the deal you're describing. Your sales person isn't trying very hard. You could almost get a Limited for what they're offering on the SE.
You can always try the fax attack, but in my experience, you're usually better off showing up at the dealer to negotiate. Sales people like to see a warm body with a checkbook in hand.
Good luck with your deal.
Thanks very much for the reply and information. I figured I could do better given the fact the 2010 models are due in a few weeks. The Legacy was actually the third car I test drove over the weekend ( others were Mazda 6 & Fusion) so I went into the dealership just looking to test drive and the salesman started talking numbers, etc.
I e-mailed several dealers this morning through Edmunds quote and have received the following offers:
1. MSRP - $23,153
Sale Price - $19,913
Tax - $1,194.78 (6%)
Doc - $120
Gov't Fee - $88.95 (No idea what this fee is)
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OTD cost - $21,316.73
2. MSRP - $23,306
Internet Price - $ 20,300 not including TTL.
I read on cars101.com that Subaru is offering $1,500 customer instant rebate with 2.9% financing if qualified.
I have to sort through the other e-mails and see what happens. I will also mention the fitzmall.com price.
Thanks again for the information, much appreciated.
Any information would be much appreciated. I am planning to purchase by the end of the month.
Thanks
$21,058 (Dealer Cost)
+106 (Center armrest extension - Dealer Cost)
+695 (Destination)
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$21,859 (Total Dealer Cost)
-446 (2% holdback)
-1,500(Manufacturer stair/step program dealer incentive)
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$19,913 selling price not including TTL. I'm just wondering if the dealer can go any lower or is this the absolute lowest price.
Any information would be appreciated.
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On one hand, it's an old model, so it should be discounted.
On the other hand, it's rare, and if you hesitate someone else will snap it up. I doubt a dealer will give up their holdback on that last of a special model.
20995.00 selling price (09 limited with autodimming mirror/compass/homelink, armrest extension, splash guards, and alarm shock sensor - satin white pearl and taupe leather, sticker MSRP shows 26,131. The car is new, 88 miles on odo.)
LESS 12575 GTP program price for 06 Legacy SE wagon (could not get any better trade in price, old car was well maintained and had exactly 45,000 miles on it. Without GTP, dealer was offering substantially less).
516 Tax
50 Title
99 Dealer fee
74 Tag transfer (estimate)
4 MD recycling fee
12.50 Titling fee
OTD 9175.50
This price was too hard to resist for a brand new Subie..;))) Figured I'd buy one since these are the last of the 09s at great closeout pricing....and I hate the look of the '10s....
Also got $500 in additional Subie reward dollars as part of the GTP price.
They still have an 09 deep bronze metallic Limited on the lot, with spoiler. Deal took approx 2 hours to complete. Very good salesman, very professional service.
The '09 limited seems to have everything I wanted except bluetooth. The HK stereo is absolutely stunning; and the speakers aren't even broken in yet...I played one of my Telarc jazz CDs and heard stuff that was impossible to hear on the '06 cheapo speakers....
While on the lot, I test drove a '10 Legacy Premium. There is more space all around - mainly rear leg room which I figured has at least 4 inches more space. But I just do not like the looks, and there is too much silver on the stereo cluster. I hope they refresh it soon. The salesman told me yesterday was the first '10 Legacy they sold..so it does not seem to have 'warmed up' to customers for looks....
Porsche does kill you - my friend laughed at the $750 "footwell lighting" option he was offered.
$340 for contrasting color seatbelts
$500 for painted side mirror supports (matte black, otherwise)
$8800 for ceramic brakes
It goes on and on and on..
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above car cost $25731 plus $25 electronic file fee
sales tax $2202.15
county tax $209.31
plates, title, etc $144
doc fee $151.65
OTD $ 28453.11
all added options on my order are priced in dealer invoice.
This was actually one of the easiest, most low pressure and smooth car buying experiences I've ever had. No trying to sell me extras, no sudden unexplained fees during signing, and so the entire process was negotiated over the internet and took 35 mins including the test drive.
Very happy!
Bill Kolb Jr.'s Subaru site also sometimes shows "internet pricing" on new Legacys, although I'm not seeing any just now.
most of the legacy has discount now, here is one of their internet price.
2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium CVT w/All-Weather Pkg/Power Moonroof/
MSRP $24,254 Discount -$1,882 Adjusted Price $22,372
hope this help.
No discounts? People already have been getting them.
I was quoted $500 above invoice, from a dealer in North NJ (Essex County)
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I'm currently buying a 2007 legacy wagon 2.5i special edition (which means it has cloth seats but a moonroof) automatic with 39,000 miles on it for $13595 plus $379 processing title fee. Am I right in thinking this is a good price? The car was used as a loaner by a local garage and despite a couple of minor pin marks in the rear side arm rests, it looks it pretty good condition. Thoughts?
The price does sound good. 2-3 years old and about 35-40% cheaper than it was new.
Just for reference, I checked out CPO-ed 2007 Outbacks, but it looks like you'd have to pay in the high teens to $20K for one of those. I know Legacy wagons are harder to find because they're not being made anymore. Wish I could be more help.
It is in the end a used car that has been driven hard by multiple drivers and owned not with pride of ownership but with the intent of minimizing cost of short term ownership.
When I buy a used car I want to meet the owner, see where it was kept, and how well the owner cares for his property, be it a car or a house or a lawn. That's why I prefer to buy used cars from owners and not dealers. Good luck in your decision.
2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited Graphite Gray Metallic/Off Black Leather
Base MSRP: $25,295
Power Mnrf: $995
Auto-Dim Mir: $271
Media Hub: $349
PZEV
Destination $695
Total Suggested Retail Price $27,605
Sales Price: $24480
Dealer Handling: $389
Taxes: $1840
Total Amt Financed: $26709 @ 4.5% for 72 mos.
A couple extras:
$300 Subaru Rewards - direct mail coupon
$500 Subaru Rewards - GTP - didn't need to trade in
$300 Lease disposition fee waived - on my WRX lease ending in a few months
$425 Subaru loyalty first payment by Subaru
I got it inspected yesterday and the vehicle had minor corrosion on the battery terminals and a missing rubber guard on the brake pedal. Apart from that it passed with flying colors so I picked it up.
Thanks again everyone for the advice.
Paul
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$300 Subaru Rewards - direct mail coupon
$500 Subaru Rewards - GTP - didn't need to trade in
$300 Lease disposition fee waived - on my WRX lease ending in a few months
$425 Subaru loyalty first payment by Subaru
Wow, sweet. That's more than a couple!