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http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f47/aftermarket-f-r-rotors-pads-hardware-senso- rs-now-11903.html
Read the postings there and you will see plenty of positive opinions and not a single negative one!
Frankly, these are high performance brake systems that require certain levels of service intermittently, depending on a variety of driving conditions. While I seem to need brakes at 26K now, others have gone an incredible 50K plus miles before replacing brakes.
These are engineered to perform under the broadest range of circumstances, just like the rest of the vehicle. Frankly, you would need to buy a Ferrari to get the same performance character and components as on the Touareg! I understand that most folks only respond to the costs and numbers of the repair, but with a little empowerment, you can do a four wheel brake job, completely, for under a $1000, parts and labor.. I am certain of that. You can get the entire four wheel package for under $600 and have someone install it in under four hours for less than $400 labor.
Of course, you can allow the dealers to have their way with you as well, if you do not take matters into your own hands - I am speaking of a full and complete restoration of wearing parts too, not just a pad slap. When you get into it, there is one way only to do the brake work - the Right Way! - Complete replacement of rotors, pads, caliper hardware, pad wear sensors, and rotor retention bolts. These are the wearing parts to replace.
The brake system here is designed to wear out the rotor within the service life of the brake pad set. If the pads are worn out, so is the rotor, by design and materials. Replacing it is the only correct choice to maintain safety. Rotor retention bolts are necessary to replace throughout the rust belt states due to the effects of salt and winter snow on the materials. Pad wear sensors get chewed up in use over time and fail due to the pad wear and also the exposure to the heat in the brake system. Caliper hardware parts need to be replaced for much the same reason - as the pads wear out, the spring tension and resiliency in the metal components of these parts is depleted, so that the replacement of them at the same time as the pads is the only safe course. Thankfully, there is no additional labor involved in installing new hardware, it needs to be removed to do the basic brake work.
I feel the pain of so many of you as you rail about the expense of this VW, but frankly, I could rant about the 05 Chrysler Pacifica POS I bought for my wife that has a host of needling issues... My Touareg has been a champ and unsullied for the past 4 years now!
Don't tell me I am the lucky one - I'm saving that for the next big Powerball lottery!!
Today I started the car and drove off and the "warning" message came up saying "Release Park brake" accompanied with a loud annoying siren noise !!!
I can assure you that the Park brake had been released corectly, honest.
When I stopped it would go off and then when I started moving again - yes you've guessed it - On it comes again.
I stopped on more than one occasion and carried out some checks and can say that the brakes were not hot, the car was moving easily when put into drive. etc, etc
It is some kind of electrical fault, I'm guessing - Any ideas ????
How can I fix it.
Cheers KP.
Is this a common failure? Has anyone had a similar experience?
WTF?
Also, while I am ranting about my 2004 V8 'reg, has anyone experienced a problem with the underseat illumination pice poping out of it's bezel and hanging down?
The dealer said someone keeps kicking it with their feet when they sit in the back - well have any of you tried to put anyone comfortable in the back?? Not happening.
Umm... That's exactly why cars are equipped with differentials. That tech sold you a bill of goods.
But....we need a bigger vehicle since the arrival of an (unplanned!) second child.
Dealer will give me 22k for it. I am thinking that since the warranty in close to expiring, the tires have another 6 months, and that I have been lucky so far to have escaped the electrical and mechanical issues that seem so common, perhaps it's time to trade it in....
Anyone here have a good reason why I shouldn't?
I know I'd be sad if I had to give up my 'reg, so I just wanted to add my two cents as a mom with two kids.
ETA: Oh and congrats on the surprise! I know lots of parents with surprises!
mathematically, that may just make the most sense.
thanks for the reply
The ca turns smoothly now at any speed and it cost me nothing but two days without my car. Thanks for your concern, tayl0rd.
So i filed a formal complaint with VW. They are very nice and responsive but the resolution was just normal wear and tear.
Anyway if it is in fact true that many of these newer year and model Touareg's require a $2K maintenance job for just brakes before $25K miles I would be surprised if anyone would purchase them. I certainly wouldn't have.
The other interesting point is that the reason these brakes wear so fast is that for certain model years and styles they are apparently the same brakes used on the Aston Martin DB9, two Ferrari models and a Lamborghini.
I have two little kids and appreciate quality brakes which i assume the Touareg has but that level of cost this early is far too excessive. I traded in my Jeep GC Limited for the VW and that had 50K miles and the original brakes.
I've had a 2005 Toureg for over 3 years, and 95,000 miles. Great car, on my third set of tires, brakes done once completely ($2,100.00) No mechancal problems, until now.
At slow speeds, like turning into a parking spot, the front end makes kind of a clicking noise, and the front tires seem to skip, like they're out of sych.
Anyone else experienced this, and if so, what did it turn out to be? Can't seem to get through to a VW tech.
These were such a known issue that VW had conducted a refit campaign for all trucks made between certain VIN's and were mostly affecting 2004 MY. I own just one, but have not had troubles. I do not believe they will replace now unless under warranty.
You do want to get this addressed right off as this will damage your tires within relatively short mileage - you are tearing the tire material against the road.
Good luck!
Please review the posts here at ClubTouareg.com: This is a long thread all about the brakes. There is no real justification for spending all that money. Take the initiative to spend your money wisely!
http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f47/aftermarket-f-r-rotors-pads-hardware-and-s- ensors-now-11903.html
:shades:
thanks
How so?
speaking of brakes and rotors. any one know of any good places to buy stock rotors? also im looking to change out the factory muffler and put in some kind of customs exhaust. if anyone knows anything let me know?
We loved the look of the vehicle, but from the first day we had it, it was so laden with problems.
First the dealer that sold it to us (not VW), sold it with totally worn out brakes.
We got that fixed but they always required two taps to make the vehicle stop.
Very odd.
Then the other day we found out one of the lamps was bad (quoted 300 or so), seat belt part broken (another huge price tag).
And finally, when the vehicle was started up in the morning, it was very slugglish.
Found out that was some kind of sensor, another nearly $200.
We had bought an extended warranty, but at $100 per copay, how much did we really want to spend on this?
So, my husband found a lovely, new 08 Volvo SUV and got it for a very good price.
They paid off the VW which we only had two months, and we think we probably did the right thing.
We lost the GPS, gained an in-dash CD changer and Blue Tooth, lost those parking sensors. Simplified things down a bit, but we gained a four year, 52,000 mile warranty. The Volvo was only used as a demo.
Oh well....
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2003-to-2007-volkswagen-touareg-2.htm-
I was wondering if these prices are remotely accurate, because they dont even look credible.
Its a tough spot. I really like the looks of the Touareg, the all around capability(on and off road), the safety is top notch. But, the last thing that I want to do is go from a great truck with no problems, to a nice, expensive to repair, and repair constantly suv. (the certifieds do have a 2 year warranty, and thats what I would more than likely do). So I was just wanting some real world feedback from all of you guys. Thanks a lot for your help.
We bought it with 55000 miles on it, didnt have a clue how bad it was.
I am so glad we found a great deal on an 08 Volvo, and I am so glad we decided to trade this in after only two months ownership.
Today my husband went to the dealer where we bought the Volvo.
They said the VW 2006 Touareg was so bad, so many things totally wrong, they couldnt even afford to sell it as a trade in.
They had to dump it at the auction.
We know about the headlight being expensive, and so was a seat belt part.
The brakes we already had to fix but made the dealer who declared the vehicle to be in excellent shape, fix it. They said it was a $900 job.
The other problem was about a $200 job and apparently there were another whole set of problems besides those.
Whew, I am glad we are out of that.
I dont know if Volvo is that pricey to fix, but at least we got one with no former owner, just a demo.
I'd give the Touareg a hard look. I've owned multiple BMW, Lexus and Mercedes products and rank the Touareg with any of these.
In Houston the Treg is a sought after vehicle.
Has anyone else had any a/c issues with an '07? I love this car and have been very happy with it---other than replacing the brakes at 20K miles. It's still under warranty for the a/c so at least I don't have to worry about that. What if they can't figure it out? Luckily the dealership has been great and always gets me a loaner (although this time it's a rental they are footing the bill for because they were out of loaners). They keep me posted and don't seem to be blowing smoke. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
I've got an open case with VW of America and have talked with them periodically too. I have no payments on this car, so there is no way for them to cover a car payment as compensation for this ridiculous mess and inconvenience. I requested the new Ipod adapter and that has supposedly been installed and works "great" (how wonderful since it does me no good since I don't have my car). VOA told me last Monday (the 6th) that this was approved to be installed as a token of appreciation for my patience and the inconvenience this has caused. The service guy said they'd detail my car and replace my wiper blades. That's all nice, but I'm feeling I should be compensated more in some way. FOUR WEEKS without my T-reg. This was my dream car and it has been quite a let-down. Am I out of line to feel I should be compenstated more? I have one other wish list item that I can think of that my car doesn't already have (other than a new car!!!) and that is roof rails since mine didn't come with any. Anyone know how much those run? I don't need fancy ones. Is this reasonable to ask for? I'm a nice person and I hate confrontation, but my patience has worn out. If they call today and say it STILL doesn't work, I need to be prepared to really go off, which won't be hard. Any thoughts please???
I'd be livid. At this amount of time, I believe every state in the Union would allow you to file a lemon law claim. If the dealership refuses to compensate you commensurately for your time and troubles, threaten them with that. If they still don't budge, file the claim.
I LOVE the Touareg, too. I don't own one, and the thought of owning one is terrifying based on all the troubles they seem to have.