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I noticed other Tundras while I was there. One had a bigger trailer than mine and the others towed fold-outs and tents. This was no different of a pattern that I saw from the other trucks that were there.
I have almost 17000 on my truck now and it is still amazing to meet people that has never seen one.
No wait! How about a Chevy 6500 moving truck. This way it could be intact and without any air hitting it before you get there.
No pun intended z71bill.
First of all, I don't like black, white, or red. I already have a green car. I'm thinking either Thunder Gray or the little seen Stellar Blue Metallic. I really think the blue would be sweet, but have not seen one in the flesh. A buddy of mine noticed that the blue has a pearlcoat, which may be difficult to match if (god forbid) I needed some body work some day. In fact, why are these blue trucks so rare? Has Toyota experienced trouble with this color?
First of all, I don't like black, white, or red. I already have a green car. I'm thinking either Thunder Gray or the little seen Stellar Blue Metallic. I really think the blue would be sweet, but have not seen one in the flesh. A buddy of mine noticed that the blue has a pearlcoat, which may be difficult to match if (god forbid) I needed some body work some day. In fact, why are these blue trucks so rare? Has Toyota experienced trouble with this color?
That tundra be sharin these here parts with them tacomas or t100 ones now: Pumpkin, trannie, transfer case, various trim like door handles and such...
Hitch: Cant get no factory hitch on them limited ones now, verfiy this from edmunds or cliffy (who be sellin em now). Some folk be claimin that EPA for this one, others be sayin it got to do with that limited haul on them ones.
These here simple truths be the fact on them ones, all ya yuppie logic on this and that aint goin change the fact. As for "workin" them trucks on that highway haul, that really be workin em hard now! Reckin folk be "workin" them Caddilacs and such on that haul too now, eh? Guessin ya aint never been on a farm for sure. Yuppies, they just dont be gettin it now. Good luck on this one now!
DH Towing Receiver Hitch (All Except Limited)
Now, ya be the one who be sellin em, so lets get the facts on this one now.
Question 1 - can I be gettin the hitch on them limited 4 by 4 ones or not? Be answerin this one Yes or No, leave that smoke at that factory if ya can now.
Question2 - Why? If ya be blamin that EPA, please be providin some credible evidence, not some smoke on it like ya normally be doin.
Well cliffy, what say on this one? Dont be expectin no real anwser now, be expectin smoke and quick now. Good luck on this one now!
And please, no more history lessons on free speech.
Trucksr:Read my lips!!! The Tundra towing capability doesn't change with the trim package(SR5 vs Limited) its the SAME that is, the S.A.M.E truck.
Getting back to my original topic, I believe a quite a few of the recent contributors haven't found out that WWII is over and a large percentage of American name products are made partially or completely elsewhere.
However, its no surprise to me that the Tundra is a serious contender, if unbiased reliability data is your guide, read Consumer Reports issues on any recent Toyota. I did and bought the most reliable truck(which happened to be a Toyota) and have not regreted it for a second.
My T100 is a very reliable truck.
DH Towing Receiver Hitch (All Except Limited)
Cliffy be knowin the truth on them limited ones, just go on back through these here posts too find em speakin on it. Fact is the fact. Good luck on this one now!
could toyota have plans to build a true 4 door,(crew cab) pickup using the seqouia platform?
DH Towing Receiver Hitch (All Except Limited)
If there be no difference, then be explainin this one from that Edmunds site. Good luck on this one now!
these numbers from www.carpoint.com:
My "mini-size" pickup will actually haul more
than the Silverado: The Tundra Access cab V8 4WD
hauls 1680 lbs. and the Silverado extended cab V8
4WD short bed is only rated for 1603 lbs. Seems
like so-called "full-size" will not haul as much.
What does this make the Silverado - "micro-size"?
Those Silverados should be good for hauling a
couple bags of groceries or in trucksrus' case a
couple of cartons of cigarettes. It is too bad
Chevy decided to make such a wimpy truck. Not much competition for Toyota. Better luck next time!
http://www.edmunds.com/edweb/editorial/features/japanesepu/japanesepu.html?id=nl
On May 28, 1999, Toyota sent a Parts and Accessories Bulletin to the dealership (PANT 99-20, Accessories). The text is as follows:
"Receiver Hitch Towning Kit (class 4)- EPA restrictions.
all tundra V8 models may have a PPO (Post production option) tow receiver hitch installed with the exception of the Tundra V8 Limited 4x4 (Model 7838). Due to EPA weight class certification limits, the factory will not equip, and dealers and PD's may not install, a tow hitch on the Tundra Limited 4x4 (Model 7838). Failure to comply with this restriction may affect the EPA certification of the vehicle. Please note that a DIO receiver hitch towing kit will not be available.
"The receiver towing kit, for all models except for the 7838, will initially be available at a 33% installation rate and then ramp up over time to meet all PPO orders.
"TMS will offer replacement Tundra tow hitches and wiring harnesses for warranty and collision repair only. an order control of one part per day for the hitch and wiring harness will be in effect, to discourage ordering for installation on Model 7838."
I also spoke to my district rep who call David Christ in distribution. The EPA has strict rules about emissions. By adding a hitch, you add weight and therefore reduce emissions. The Tundra was on the edge of the "Low Emission Vehicle" standard and if the hitch were available on all models, the Tundra would not rate "LEV". It was decided to keep the hitch off only the 7838s and that was enough to keep them in compliance. None of this prevents an owner from buying an aftermarket hitch and installing it
OK, now I provided the evidence for my argument. Trucksrme, you need to come up with a different song or provide evidence to support your theory that the Limited is incapable of towing up to its 7100 pound rating.
A HUGE thank you to cliffy for actaully researching this for us. Ol' trucksrme should learn that you can't keep using the same vague quote from edmunds.com regarding towing with the Limited. Of course, that's just his style. He just goes with whatever "information" aligns with his biases regardless of the source. He says that the manufacturer (www.chevrolet.com in his case) is the "factual place for getting the facts". Of course, when Tundra owners cite Toyota's website/figures, he just accuses us of having that factory smoke in our eyes (or some such nonsense).
You may as well just give it up, trucksrme. We can all see right through you. You exhibit the same behavior pattern over and over and over with those worn-out responses. Nothing else besides intense jealousy could possibly be the motivation behind your actions. It's unstandable coming from a chevy owner. We won't hold it against you. Just don't hold our good fortune against us.
I personally like ABS although I have never had opportunity to need them. The Tundra does come with a load sensing proportion valve which reduces the chances of rear wheel lockup by keeping most the braking pressure on the front until the bed is loaded down.
Every region is responsible for ordering trucks for their area. In the Central Atlantic region, there are some SR5 and Limited models with ABS but the percentage is small.
Very dissapointed in Florida and looking elsewhere for a vehicle!
Question 1 - can I be gettin the hitch on them
limited 4 by 4 ones or not?
Question2 - Why? If ya be blamin that EPA, please
be providin some credible evidence.
Now lets clear the smoke on cliffys answers!
Question 1 - Yep, ya cant get no factory hitch on them limited ones now! This be what I be sayin all along, now got folks agreein too this fact at last!
Question 2 - Same old EPA smoke, no proof, just smoke blowin! This be what I expectin, still no answer as to why!
Conclusion:
Ya cant get no factory hitch on them limited ones, and this be the fact. It still be the mystery as too why now. Some folk be blamin that EPA, some folk be blamin that haul. Still got us the mystery on this one now, but cleared up the fact that ya cant get no factory hitch on them limited ones for sure. Good luck on this one now!
I don't claim that the EPA rules make even a small amount of sense. They clearly don't and this isn't the first time they have caused problems for Toyota.
Now why are you so fixated on factory hitches anyway? What is so great about a hitch from the factory rather than an aftermarket one? My aftermarket one does just fine. The Tundra comes standard with a transmission oil cooler so all you need to add is the wiring harness and receiver. No big deal. Now post something intelligent or go away.
Should a marketing decision potentially cost people their lives?
The fact is I will not buy a Tundra without ABS and will look elsewhere. There are oodles of Fords, Chevys and most every other make you can imagine selling vehicles with ABS in Florida. Toyota should scrap some of their "eye candy" options on this vehicle and add one that can truly save lives: ABS
I do not want to wind up sliding toward the back end of a semi in one of Florida's notorious thunderstorms because some greedy jerk or group of jerks took it upon themselves to withhold anti-lock braking from my vehicle.
If this is a marketing decision it is asinine and I hope it gets some negative press and attention and embarrasses the parties responsible. I'll be sure to write Consumer's Reports and make them aware of this. Maybe they will withdraw their favorable rating of this vehicle until ABS is widely available.
Anyway, good point: ABS should be standard. It is on my GM and by making it standard it also lowers the price of it. And from what I hear about the price of the tundra.........full size price for a mid size. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out.