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Like I said before, I like ABS and choose to have them on my truck. Your local dealership can get one for you if they want. If they will not, and you are willing to make a trip to VA, send me an e-mail.
Like I said, I choose ABS for my truck. I like it and am trying to change my habits but ABS is not the wonder cure for preventing accidents. I also think people tend to rely too much on them and drive beyond the bounds of safety but that is just an opinion.
Also, do you know when the 2001's will come out and if there will be any price increase?
Denver police thought they had abs problems in squad cars, at first. Turns out they were just used to controlling a skidding vehicle at it's limits. The solution for them? They got training on the uses, and limitations of abs. A skidding tire, on good surface can actually stop faster than one that is rolled to a stop. The issue is not stopping distance, it's control during braking.
Has anyone heard this rumor? I can't find anything on the internet.
Thanks.
As you may know, there will be a true four door Tacoma, available this fall, and that could be what the magazine your friend was referring to was talking about.
I have seen a photo on the web of a four door Tundra, but I was told by several folks that it was a fake, and it sure looked that way to me.
Finally, none of the dealers I've asked has any knowledge about a four door Tundra.
I know this isn't much, but it's all I know.
The Silverado has disc brakes on the rear which is great if you have a heavy load. If you don't you will need the ABS much more frequently than you should.
4 door Tundra -
From the many posts I have read from Tundra owners I thought most were happy with the back seat of the Tundra. Things like I don't have any friends or family and my Tundra suits my needs just fine. The tools I put in the back never complain about lack of leg room.
If Toyota does come out with a Truck that can carry people in the back would it shorten the bed to 3 feet or make the truck longer?
Also, how many piston calipers does the Chevy have? Two! Wow, no wonder you need discs in the rear.
I'm delighted with the 4 wheel disc abs brakes.
Truck Trend had the following braking results:
Silverado empty 60-0: 133 ft
Silverado 1000# payload 60-0: 135 ft
Tundra empty 60-0: 127 ft
Tundra 1000# payload 60-0: 141 ft
I'd say the Silverado does a pretty good job balancing the brakes between a load and empty, especially for a full size truck.
As for the number of pistons in the caliper, I don't know, because no one has had to replace brake pads yet. With 27,000 miles on mine, pads still look about 75%.
I think there are many nice features to the Tundra, to go along with a few negatives. But I would not consider the drum brakes on the Tundra to be one of the positives.
The Tundra does have the good brakes, Ford and Chevy are close in braking power when empty, but they stop better when you have a load. The Dodge should come with an anchor that you could throw out the window in an emergency.
I work with sales people every day - my company people as well as our suppliers. I do recognize their importance to any company. No company can survive without sales.
Buy Toyota products: They're not made by America-hating Communist sympathizers like the Unionist trash that patrol the Edmunds Tundra boards.
Next thing you know, we'll be seeing our favorite villains screaming for convicted cop-killer Mumia Abul Jamal to be released from prison.
Maybe he'll even be their spokesman, just as soon as they fire the Bionic Woman from her job of selling Fords.
Source: JD Powers
The dealer resurfaced the rotors and replaced the brake pads under warranty. End of problem.
Lets not forget that these are OWNERS SURVEYS, ands CHEVY OWNERS rated thier own truck poorer than the Tundra's in problems per thousand.
Yes...it's true.
pickups.
In contrast Consumer Reports rated Silverado -90%
in predicted reliability for 2000. And 4WD
vehicles rated worse. It was off their charts!
This was based on customer surveys filled out by
OWNERS of 1999 Silverados.
Now who am I to believe - a hick who does not have
a second grade knowledge of grammar and spelling
or two surveys conducted by well respected
consumer advocacy groups?
By the way - Chevy as a manufacturer ranked 26th by JD Powers. They just beat out Hyundai in 30th. That's that good old Chevy quality for you.
Toyota tied for 4th with BMW.
The size: The big3 ones be "full size"
The cost: The tundra costs be higher
Said before, sayin it again now: tundra=less truck, more buck. Good luck on this one now!
The Tundra making about 100,000 a year will be about 4% of the fullsize truck market, Toyota will always be the little guy of trucks, like the Tacoma its sales don't compare to that of Ford Rangers or Chevy S10 (I'm not shure on this one but pretty shure).
The Toyota will have a place and will not go away, the [non-permissible content removed] cars have always been for people that are higher on the income level and think they are better than the average man so they don't want to be in a Ford Chevy or Dodge because those are the trucks that fleets use, contructions use, etc. They are the high class pickup, and their are a small amount of people out there that are buying trucks just to have a pickup, not because they need the bed
now I"m shure Tundra owners can agree with me that most tundra owners never put anything in their bed!
It tows strong, hauls like there is nothing in it's bed, and does it with the best fuel economy of any 1/2 ton on the US market today.
I have owned imports in my past. Not any more impressed with them than my Silverado as far as reliability and quality. My Silverado will haul and tow much more without strain too.
Happy scooting to all.
higher on the income level and think they are
better than the average man so they don't want to
be in a Ford Chevy or Dodge because those are the
trucks that fleets use, contructions use, etc."
Thats from #564. You have to have higher income, how else can you afford a $700 alternator?
Geez whats a GM, Ford or Dodge, $100 on a bad day?
Dont say they never need parts or break down, they all do.
I'll stay American, Union and employed.
My point is that I buy the best value and hopefully that choice is also the best for our fellow Americans and our American economy. I still buy American trucks as preference. I don't wear Izod and Polo shirts either. I have a good stash of money because I am thrifty in how and when I spend it.
Some folks swear by one make while others swear at it. What about the high price of parts? My guess why you don't hear about the high cost of foreign parts is probably due to the fact they rarely need them!
My first car was a used 1968 Plymouth Sport Satelite (American Made muscle car) Not much went wrong.
My second & fourth new cars (an 80'Honda Prelude and 91' Accord) needed one starter, alternator, two clutches and batteries replaced in 158,000 miles. My third car was an 80'Olds with 29,000 miles I bought from my grandmother when she could no longer drive. I replaced more in two years and 20,000 miles than in anything previous. I presently drive an 85'Toyota Xtra cab 4x4. It has 177,000 work miles on it. I drive 60 miles every other week with 2400 pounds of nails in the back. During the winter not a day goes by without having to pull a 6000 pound forklift out of foot deep mud. Not bad for 4 cylinder 22R. Don't ever say my Toy is a toy.
That fact is, the only reason foreign vehicles ever got a foothold in the US market was because Detroit couldn't make a decent car from the late 70's to the mid 80's! I also believe they forgot the lesson they learned back then!
I also drive a 96 Windstar that needs brake work
every 16,000 miles, tie rod ends every 24,000 miles rear window defroster contacts, power window
tracks, new locks and ignition switch all in the first 36,000 miles. We only have 59,000 on it presently! The best thing about my Windstar was 4.9% financing and the final payment went out last week!
I'm sold on foreign until the US auto makers come clean about problems and defects as well as make reliable vehicles.
Soon as the new Toyota Sequoia Ltd 4x4 SUV (Tundra Outfit) comes out in the fall it will be in my driveway. I'll still keep my 85' so I can pretend to work pulling forklifts and hauling nails!
It's not a matter bucks in the bank it's preference from experience. If what you deem to be reliability is worth extra dollars then you pay it.
Live, laugh and love what you drive!
I drive 60 miles every other week with 2400 pounds of nails in the back. During the winter not a day goes by without having to pull a 6000 pound forklift out of foot deep mud.
Best be puttin the scale too them nails now. Aint no little toy be haulin 2400 lbs of nothin, no 60 miles! Makes ya wonder how much of them other tells be based in fact now. Good luck on this one now!
(1) If a 85' Toyota 4x4 carries a pallet of nails containing 48 boxes of bulk nails and each box weighs 50 pound. How many total pounds of nails is the Toyota carrying? (hint: don't let the make year or GVW "gross vehicle weight" fool you)
(2) If that same Toyota carrying those same ______
(no help) pounds of nails travels from San Leandro to Antioch, and San Leandro, CA is 15 miles from Oakland, and Oakland is 45 miles from Antioch, CA. How many total miles is the truck traveling? (Hint: don't let the fact that there are two sets of coastal range mountains "foothills" you must cross to get there fool you)
Now I won't say that I dont restack the nails to keep that much weight to the front of the rear wheels which gives better driver control, nor did I say 4 cylinders and 1" brakes get off the line quick or stops even quicker, (thats what a manual transmission is for) but never the less it is overloaded and doesn't mind it.
I also work my truck hard around Christmas time delivering green wooden Christmas Tree Stands that often total one thousand board feet.... Oh "Bonus Questions"
(Bonus) If the same Toyota pick-up carries 1000 board feet of Christmas Tree stands made from green (wet) wood, and a semi-truck carries 48,000 lbs of green lumber totaling 19,000 board feet.
How much do the stands weigh that the Toyota is delivering? (you can ask your freinds for help)
Each stand contains 1.66666 board feet. How many stands are on the truck and how much does each one weigh?
Finally foreign vehicles weren't always more expensive. It wasn't until the government put trade imbalance import taxes on them to make people shy away from higher foreign prices in the early 80's. What has truely happened is that people finding foreign quality to be better in late 70's to mid 80's have already been sold on foreign and associate higher prices with better quality as a result!
My experience with my first New American made (Windstar)car has only reconfirmed my belief!
Pass in your papers class!