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My '90 Sable still had an 85-mph speedo. Now of course, things have gotten absurd, with mundane cars having 140 mph (or more) speedos, when the cars' top speeds are lower AND all the useable numbers are crunched into about half of the dials.
I think Honda Accords for years have had 160mph speedos. A friend of mine had a 92 that I think went to 140 or 160. Amusing.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/car/633285494.html
http://southbend.craigslist.org/car/633393385.html
When I was REALLY young (circa 1970), the next door neighbor had a new dodge roadrunner. I asked him how fast it went and he said "I don't know; the speedometer only goes to 150...".
That was the model with the big rear spoiler, IIRC.
I think the 4th pic is the current one.
78 Benz 450SLC. yeah, more like "please drag it away for free". You can buy these clean, shiny, detailed, full tank of gas, all ready to roll for $5,000 all day long.
My E55 goes to 160, but is governed at 155. I think it will do around 180-185 when delimited.
Do you mean the low-slung President Speedster / Hawk style coupe, or the more upright, clunky 2-door sedan? I think by 1953-54 standards, those more upright 2- and 4-door sedans looked good, but once the '55 Chevy, Ford, and Plymouth hit the scene, they looked really old, really fast. And by the time '57 rolled around and just about everybody short of Chevy, Pontiac, and the few remaining independents were all new, the Studes looked positively ancient.
They did offer a hardtop model in '58 called the Starlight, which had a nice, modern, Chrysler/DeSoto style roofline, but the body it was attached to was still pretty clunky, especially with the swollen, slapped-on quad headlights.
It's interesting though how much more gracefully the low-slung coupe aged. It still looked good by 1964 standards. I don't think there are too many other 1953-vintage designs that could have been updated that well.
Just doing a quick Google search, I found this blurb, which quotes a top speed of 140 mph, and 0-60 in 6.1 seconds for a 426 Hemi, 4-speed Superbird. It says that the race versions would top 200 mph.
55 Studebaker--yeah, I meant the 2D President hardtop coupe, not the Speedster, which is a bit too garish.
What's with Studebaker names? President, Dictator, Commander....did they make a Tyrant or a Despot?
No, 200+ MPH is correct. Keeping it on the ground was the whole reason for that huge wing spoiler on the back, which was a production item. I was living in North Carolina at the time, and those folks are SERIOUS about their NASCAR.
Anyway, I remember seeing some races on TV in which the roadrunners went 200 MPH or so.
I'd guess a street stock Superbird could do about 140 MPH, maybe 150 on a long, long stretch of flat road on a windless day. But it would be white knuckle-driving, that's for sure.
NASCAR cars are basically out of control at 200 MPH, which is how you win. You have to have the guts to be out of control.
Like the good ol boys say; "If you are in control, you ain't goin' fast enough"
I guess on those old monsters you'd need what----800HP to hit 200 MPH?
How'd he know that?
I've never driven one of those monstrous '74-78 New Yorkers, but always liked the style. I wonder how unwieldy one would be compared to the '79 New Yorkers? I never can remember the overall length of these cars, but there have been a few times at Mopar shows where there would be one parked next to my 5th Ave, and comparing the two side by side, it doesn't look like the '79 shrunk by much. Not nearly as drastic as putting a '77 GM fullsize car up against a '76.
I like this '76 hardtop sedan better.
Oh, and this '79 New Yorker is still up for grabs.
It's easy for you to look at all that old iron people are posting and poke fun, but for us here on the frozen Tundra, rust isn't so much a problem as it's a way of life.
Junk yards in Michigan are very nearly pointless, unless you can find a fairly recent car that was very gently wrecked.
With the exception of RVs, motorcycles, and convertibles, old cars are just a mess.
Here'd be a typical "classic" from my neck of the woods.
http://lansing.craigslist.org/car/635976283.html
It's sad, really.
-Mathias
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And speaking of which, it sounds like that town needs a hobby, or something to keep itself busy. I know abandoned/junk cars are considered an eyesore, but heck, on a large piece of property like that, they're really more like lawn ornaments! I mean, who the heck ratted the dude out? The 'possums and squirrels? Did a deer get pissed because they were spoiling its view of the forest?
Now I could understand if they were sitting in a parking lot, or on the front lawn in a finely manicured subdivision. But this sounds like the town is just sniffing for revenue (fines). Or maybe the guy just has a neighbor he quarrels with, and the guy ratted him out. Or maybe he just needs to hide his cars better. I should call him and give him some pointers. :P
A little optimistic
They all seem to end up like this
Not the best ROI for a 25 year term
Fancy Ford
"Here's to you Mrs. Robinson"
Nobody wants this gas sucker, bet it drives nice:
VW Thunder Road
For the last of the original mustangs, this looks kind of nice. At least it's not the ridiculous "flat-back" body style.
Red 71 pony
This is funny... a "sporty" Camry:
5-spd Camry Coupe
And here is the Explorer equivalent, a 5-spd coupe SUV :surprise:
Sport
james
james
Funny about that W8 Passat...I've seen a few of those on Seattle CL in the past month or so...either that or the same car is making rounds.
I also saw another 5-speed Camry coupe...sporty...more like unsellable, as the 55 year old woman who would drive it would never want a stick
"It must be rare AND someone has to care"
Whoa! Dig that sporty Camry. Now there's a beast that could get away from you if you're not careful! How did they get that much power to the ground?
83 Mustang--- nice car and all, but GEEZ for that money you could put a hefty down on a new Mustang convertible which is about 25 times better a car. It's still a "flexi-flyer" '83 Mustang. Try $7,500 and hug the ankles of the man who buys it.
Citroen SM -- shoot, you can buy these cars all restored for $15K--$20K. They are really FUN to drive but ay, ay, ay, what a hassle to fix one up. Price isn't unreasonable at $5K if it's really nice inside and out, but I don't see how a man could come out whole on the other end----risky at $5K, better at $3,000.
Peugeots -- My friend with the Subaru shop also fixed Peugeots for many years. He has about 10 504s and 505s in his back lot, for parts to keep the few remaining diehard vive la france Peugeot owners happy. The 505 is really a nice car to drive, very comfortable, pretty solid build, and they can be fairly reliable (within limits) but every time you go down in one, you stay down for two weeks. It's a hobby car. I think a price of about....FREE....for both of them is fair enough. Parts donor---be noble.
Alfa Spider: I love this line in the ad, a self-fulfilling prophecy:
"'m asking $8,000 firm for this car for a few reasons. One, I have no pressing reason to sell the car"
HMMMM..... So he wants a top dollar premium price for a car with ripped seats, split convertible top window, etc? AND a bad synchro (I hate to break it to him but Alfas do have 1st gear synchro...only HIS Alfa doesn't at the moment). Try $4,000 and worship the buyer with love and chocolates.
hahaha. I was about to write something similar. Although I wouldn't balk at a $6k asking price ... if it is everything he claims (zero rust being the important part). These have gone up in price quite a bit the past couple of years. $4k will get you one in need of a top, paint, and new interior. Which this one might need ... tough to tell in pics taken in a dark garage at night.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yeah really, why sell a car you're too lazy to push into sunlight. Everything about that ad just annoys me (as if you all hadn't noticed). :mad:
"The car ticks every box on the classic sports car checklist. It is rear wheel drive, with a rev-happy engine, manual steering for maximum feedback..."
Oops, I forgot, you were already annoyed. :P
She then went to work as a waitress in a restaurant and found an '83 RX-7 GS for sale at a local dealer. Pleaded, cajoled and basically whined her way into getting my folks to co-sign for her (hey, they co-signed for me on a car after I graduated college, so fair's fair!). My dad was dead set against the idea of a rotary engine - "it leaks oil!"; "it's hard to work on", etc., but he and my mom eventually relented.
My sister worked her a-- off to make the payments - $262/mo (why I remember that number is a mystery to me). She had a big wing installed by the dealer and painted body color - although I'm sure it did nothing for the performance, it did look pretty cool. Was baby blue with a gray interior.
It was, thank god, a stick, and on the rare occasions I was able to drive it, I would constantly bounce the engine off the rev-limiter (7000 RPM). I remember one Friday when my best friend and I took it for a little midnight run in the mountains. God, that car could handle! Even though it only had 100HP and little 14" tires and wheels, the position of the engine behind the front axle made for some amazing acrobatics.
My sister kept that car for close to 10 years ... when she lived in San Diego with her (new) boyfriend (now husband), she got a call from the Sheriff's Department in the middle of the night telling her it had been stolen. Turns out a couple of guys and one of their girlfriends took it from the parking lot of the apt. complex where my sister lived. Apparently, they were doing something that attracted the law, and when they were pulled over, the guys split, leaving the girl in the back (remember, only 2 seats) to get pinched. No damage - in fact, the thieves left their cassettes in the car, so my sister got to keep those.
She sold the car after she got married and they started planning a family. She got, I think, $2200 for it and cried when she turned over the keys and title.
I'm sure there are days where she wishes she had still kept it .. and even though it wasn't my car, I wish it were still in the family.
And that wasn't even a perfect car (is there such a thing as a perfect '86 spider?).
Maybe he thinks 1st has no synchro because you can't downshift to 1st unless you are at a near complete stop. But, hell, my '06 Accord is pretty much the same way.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Not exactly "light on its feet" or "tossable" or whatever a proper small sports car should be.
-Mathias
And good-looking, in the Solara case.
The 2dr Camrys I like 'cuz they remind me of the late-70s 2door Benzes; immediately recognizable but just out of proportion.
Like manual transmissions, shorty Chevy vans, and boiled cabbage, my personal tastes may not be representative of the market as a whole.
-Mathias
A manual 2-door Camry does have to be relatively rare. I don't recall ever seeing a manual Solara, or noticing one anyway.
And another
And yet another....maybe they aren't so rare
A realistically priced diesel W123...no way
I've always had a thing for these
*gag*
*gasp*
$20k for a Passat with 85k miles?! I don't care if its got a jet engine, it ain't worth that kinda jingle. Hell, can't you get a Phaeton with less miles for that kinda money these days?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The diesel Merc looks like a relative bargain (for someone who is into that sort of thing).
james
An '04 Phaeton with no more than 52k has a trade-in value right around $20k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Well, he's not offering a trade in, he is looking for retail or private seller value, which is (at least) a LITTLE higher.
Yeah, about $1500 higher. Soooo... yeah, twice its value.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Great.
A newer slow diesel
I guess the Caddy is a real bucket of rusty bolts or something. It should be worth about $14K in good clean #3 condition. Maybe it's a typo and should be $13,900?
Let's start that depreciation off right