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  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    The Conquest was a rebadged Starion, so the title is fine. Just list it as a Conquest and maybe throw in something about it being a clone of the Starion if you think that will pull in more interest.
  • hudsonthedoghudsonthedog Member Posts: 552
    I'm going to agree with the above post, so bear with me:

    The Conquest was produced by Mitsubishi for Chrysler Corporation and should read almost exactly that on the badging, just like the "Colt"/"Champ" and "Challenger"/"Sapporo" and "D50"/"Arrow Pickup" and "Arrow" did before it.

    Depending on the year, the Conquest was sold in the US under three different brand names: Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth. There were no differences between them beyond the dealership who sold them and the badging on the rear. And, I believe, the VIN code should be slightly different depending on the brand name as well (Chryslers should start "JJ3", Dodges start "JB3" and Plymouths should start "JP3").
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    It's from Leave it to Beaver >

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    Mystery car...was it a Panoz?
  • hudsonthedoghudsonthedog Member Posts: 552
    The foreground is a 1962 Plymouth Fury, but I'm having trouble with the convertible in the background.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    I checked google images...that's exactly what it was, I recognized the weird hood. Something you don't see every day.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    Hudson is right, it's a '62 Plymouth, the convertible it the background is a Chrysler from the same year. Back then the carmakers had deals with the TV producers and a given series would feature certain cars in return they'd get free use of the cars as props.

    Ward Cleaver got a new Plymouth every year in much the same way that Todd Stiles of Route 66 would get a new Corvette. For some reason I recall
    Perry Mason driving new Fords.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
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    Some interesting cars visible in background but what a horror show up front.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    Early 50s German Ford, with a Borgward Isabella beside it. In the background I spot a Porsche 356 and a Fiat 500. I think the white car in the far background is an Opel.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269
    looks like an Opel Kadette rear. The only other car I recall shaped like that in the back is the late 60's/early 70's Benz (I don't do the numbers, but the one that replaced the fintail I think?)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    It could be a Kadett, yes. A MB W108 (which replaced the fintail) or W114/115 did have a similar taillight shape and location as you mention, but the pictured car looks smaller and somehow more rounded.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    It looks more like a German Studebaker with that weird nose but it is a German Ford Taunus 12M ca.1952-55. Acording to Wikipedia all German Fords from
    '52-'68 wore the Taunus name.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,538
    Volvo P1800?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269
    1800 ( I still say P1800. I will ask the guy at work that owns 2!). A later car, think it might be a '73?

    Needa a bath too.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    1971 Volvo 1800E

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,538
    Some kind of Camry crossover.. I know this is probably from InsideLine, but I'm too lazy to go look it up.. Looks like a jumbo sized Highlander/RX

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,088
    Odd how many "Edge" styling elements it has.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Toyota Venza.

    We were just discussing it in the Crossover thread.

    The profile reminds me of a downsized MDX.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,088
    '61 Plymouth Valiant (never can forget that trunk!)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    '61 Valiant is correct, so is '09 Toyota Venza. Anyone wanna try the wagon parked
    across the street from The Beaver and his friend?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Can I get some credit for recognizing Beaver's little friend as Chuckie? IIRC Beaver was irritated about having to babysit him and managed to lose him. :-P

    Oh, yes, what was that car in the background, anyway? :-D
  • fangio2fangio2 Member Posts: 214
    60 dodge station wagon polara?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    60 dodge station wagon polara?

    I don't think so, it's hard to see but I think I can just make out the peculiar shapes of the hideous '61 Plymouth, like this one>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    The car way in the back behind Beaver's head appears to be a 1955 Ford.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,588
    Ay-yup, you are both right. I was at am impressionable age when the '61 Plymouth came out. The healing process was hard, and a picture like the one that andys120 displayed can still cause me to twitch.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,269
    at first, thought it was a Crosley from the shape of th efront end, but then saw Magnette posted it.

    Looks like a Mini Traveller that mated with the front end of a Beetle.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    Geez, I know I have seen this thing before, with the suicide doors and weird hood, but I can't bring up the name
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,088
    I would have thought that hood badge would have reminded someone. I'm guessing it's rear engined and German?
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    DKW? :confuse:
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    How are you supposed to reply to posts now ? The blank column on the right basically obliterates any reply buttons, and presumably also when I post this I won't be able to edit it...
    If they make the advert down the right hand margin wide enough to stop people posting replies, how do they think people are going to use a forum - or are we all just posting unanswered messages now - if the margin gets any wider there won't be anything to look at, so no one will read the advert either.

    EDIT Weird - posting this answer reset the margins to the previous width and reinstated the reply/edit etc buttons. - This site is certainly less well supported technically since the last changes - it is more flaky, and less user friendly.

    Second edit - Margin just expanded again so I can't reply t any posts on any previous page....

    Is it just me - or are you all seeing this - the last word on every line of this message is being cut off....

    Actually I think it isn't every page,but this one certainly hasn't got any reply buttons. All the messages just finish at the S of Save, et the next page they come back....
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    Can't post replies anymore due to these ridiculous new margins, but the funny looking estate car with more than a little rust is indeed German, it isn't a DKW, it is more common as a 2-door coupe ( the blue car to the left is actually one of those) and it does have a rear engine.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    in post 14867 ?
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    That problem happens when a picture is on the page that is wider than the text area. We really need to be careful about ensuring a picture fits for that reason. That means the first several posts on the page containing the picture will have a problem because they slide up under the right sidebar.

    However, when something too wide is keeping you from getting to the Reply and your own post management links, you can usually use the Go To Msg # to manipulate the number of posts on the page which will change around the posts that the ads or whitespace cover up. Easier for you to experiment with it than for me to explain it. :-P

    Hope this helps.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,088
    Found a pic of a Porsche-NSU prototype that had that hood, but it was '34. Is this a, say, '47 NSU?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    I don't think NSU production came back online until the late 50s...they were really into motorcycles.

    I still can't place the mystery wagon, although I know I have seen it before. The coupe reminds me of a prewar Steyr, but those were of course Austrian.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,088
    OK...here was the pic, with the similar hood and suicide doors...I'm stumped.image
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    Thanks for that, but I still think part of the problem is that we have such a huge margin now - I know the site is sponsored by adverts, but it really does intrude.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    The car I posted is actually from the mid fifties, and it's not NSU...
    Interesting to see that 1934 car though - easy reference to the later KDF-Wagen, prototype for the VW ( my car isn't a VW either
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    They seem to have it optimized for 640x480 displays or something. Wake up people, it's not 1992...

    And that wagon just can't make it deep enough into my memory to bring up a name...yet it is somehow familiar.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    Well, I think I'll leave the rusty old estate car for another day, to give you guys a chance to work it out, but the other car I posted is perhaps less interesting, and hasn't generated any feedback
    This blue retro-looking thing is a Royale Windsor, it's based on the Granada floorpan (1985/93) and is in current production. They also make a limo version which is extended, although that is more for wedding hire, I should think, and a couple of 2-door convertibles, including the one in the background. It is available as a kit, or built, and is made in Doncaster, Yorkshire.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,227
    Don't see many of these on the road now..
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  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Please don't blame the messenger - just trying to help people deal with what is. :)
  • karsickkarsick Member Posts: 312
    That was called the Toyota Cressida stateside in the late 70's.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    Yep, the first Cressida...I remember the old lady who lives across from my grandmother had one. She just traded it a few years ago for a new Corolla. Brand loyalty...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,379
    I still can't figure it out. I was thinking Zündapp as they too made a Beetle-esque series of experiments in the 30s, and the logo even looks somewhat similar...but I don't think Zündapp had anything but a microcar after the war. I also want to say names like Hanomag or Goliath, but I know those aren't right. When you do reveal it...I'll feel senile.

    Nice to see someone other than Americans dares to make a neo-classic. Well, there are those oddball Japanese ones, but they are kind of cool in a freakshow way.
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