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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    BMW 1600-2.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    BMW 1600-2

    Dang. I was hoping someone would jump in and say it was a 2002 (they had blackout side grills). :cry: Yup it's a 1968 BMW 1600/2.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Wow, Shifty, you've got me fooled. I thought it was a variant of the BMW/Iso Isetta but AFAIK they all had motors in back, not a seat.

    Is that a one-off cobbled together by Wartburg or something?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Zundapp Janus
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited March 2010
    Nope, it's a production car and they made 6,900 of them.

    HINT: This is the *only* car this manufacturer ever made but they did make other wheeled vehicles.

    The motor is between the two bench seats. It had a 4-speed transmission + reverse and hydraulic brakes, and could do 60 mph.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Gee, Shifty, it sure looks like the Zundapp Janus I saw in the Bruce Weiner Microcar Collection. . .
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,494
    It's a Janus indeed.

    Zundapp bikes are MUCH cooler :shades:
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Mopars went from High Ugly in the early 60s to pretty spiffy by 1967 or so.

    I don't know. It was a mixed time. The 60 Chrysler and DeSoto seemed decent looking, as were the original Valiants. We'll never know how the 62's would have come out if they hadn't been "emergency" downsized by company leadership. But I agree that some Exner was getting a little far out like the 61 Plymouth. I also wasn't a big fan of the backward fins on Dodge. The mid sixties (63-66) was kind of a mix while Elwood Engel "Fordized" some of Exner's designs. Moving to 67, I thought they uglied up the Fury. However, the intermediates and Fuselage full size cars that came out at the end of the decade were nice. Having said that, I think some of the later 60's decade GM and Ford products weren't always appealing either. For example, Pontiac seemed all over the boards each year from 67-69. The 67 Tempest/GTO was neat, the Bonnie - I don't know. At least there was still a lot of design variation back then to talk and argue about! I miss that.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Poor Zundapp. The Janus bankrupted them :(
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Ferrari 365GTC/4, ca. 1973.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    The four holes mean Roadmaster, so it's a Buick Roadmaster. Don't know the year.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think its a 62 Electra
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Yep, it's a '62 Buick Electra 225, my personal favorite of the land yacht converts.

    Electras, Electra 225s and Roadmasters all got the 4 portholes per side.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Classy, understated elegance. 62 was a good year for Oldsmobile also.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,494
    I prefer the Olds that year, not as understated, but cool in a period way:

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    Beginning of a golden age for GM design
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    I agree - '62 was a great design year for GM. When I was a kid I remember GM would bring their new models to the local mall (the Bergen Mall in Paramus NJ) and have them all on display for a week or so. I used to spend a LOT of time crawling around them, and I remember when the'62's were displayed they were quite an attraction.

    On another subject, I wonder why the '62 Electra Convert as well as the '62 Starfire Convert above are showing wide whitewalls??? As I recall, '61 was the last year of www's as '62 brought in the new thinner whitewall like on the '62 Starfire Coupe above. I remember back in the day the wide whites were considered 'old-fashioned', and maybe that's why the owners of the above have put the older style on their cars??
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,494
    I've even seen wide whites on otherwise clean or restored 70s cars, especially Caddys...I think some people just like them. And for borderline year cars, I guess it is an attempt at a period look.

    I know MB didn't go to narrow-stripe tires until 65.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    The Century also had four port holes. That way you could peek and see if Dyna was flowing. ;)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    edited March 2010
    Yep Centuries did have four ports but I don't think they made them in the '62MY.

    I found this shot of a '55 Century police unit that reminded me of Highway Patrol with Broderick Crawford>

    10-1 Dispatch, 10-4
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    OKAY YOU PUNKS---OUTTA THE CAR!!!
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    As I recall, one of the most prominent features of the old Highway Patrol cars was their immense whip antennas (antennae??). This pic of a '55 has a kind of short stubby antenna on the trunk, while Broderick Crawford's Buicks seemed to all have a 10' whip antenna attached to the rear bumper. Anyone know the details??

    On another topic, how many law enforcement agencies used to buy cars other than Ford/Chevrolet/Plymouth? These old Highway Patrol Buicks were awesome since most Police departments that I recall were stuck with very pedestrian plain jane Big 3 models. One exception that I recall was the Broward County FL Sheriffs Office in the late '60's early '70's that had really spiffy Oldsmobiles. Of course it turned out later that the sheriff was best friends with the local Oldsmobile dealer (King Olds), and after he left BSO went back to more typical cop cars.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Old Westbury NY Police were reputed to drive Dodge Hemis back around '63-'64.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I recall growing up in the Chicago area in the late 60's that the Tollway cops, which were separate from the state police in those days, drove Chrysler Newports. Broderick Crawford also drove Merc's and Dodges on that show. Don't forget those AMC (I don't think they were called Ramblers any more) cop cars on 1 Adam 12! Oh, and Sky King always had a Chrysler wagon.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, but Broderick Crawford LOOKED like a Buick! :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    10-4 Shifty! ;)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Radio reception is best when the receiving antenna is 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, or 4/4 the length of the transmitted radio wave.
    Many own CB radios which when transmitting, put out a wave of approximately 36 feet. Years ago, I had on my car a 9 foot CB antenna, which was 1/4.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Member Posts: 3,425
    edited January 2010
    Over 40 years ago and before state purchase pools were developed cities would buy on a low bid basis from local dealers. Boy, were our city cops embarrassed to drive Studebakers. :sick:
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    I've seen a picture of 1951 Studebakers used as patrol cars for the South Bend, Indiana police department. They had the red warning light in the bullet nose.

    The Philadelphia Police Department tried using Ford Falcons around 1960-61. It didn't work out too well because the cars couldn't hold up to the rigors of urban police work.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    To say nothing of being unable to catch bicycle thieves :P
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's gotta be a Studebaker---what, '59? 60?
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...right make, wrong year.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Okay, judging by the other cars.....58!
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Correct. It's a 1957-58 Studebaker Scotsman.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Were they still using their flathead 6 on that car? I know they put in some incredible high rear end ratio to boost gas mileage.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Don't forget about the '59 Cadillac limo at the curb and the
    '57 Dodge taxi behind the Studebaker!
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Boy that brings back memories, '67 was the year I moved to Manhattan.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,402
    Is that a Lambreda(sp) on the right?
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Andy and everyone, are you going to the NY Auto Show? I'll be there on April 3. It would be great to meet all of you.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,130
    Yep, a Lambretta.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Nope, sorry, I'll be in Arizona on 4/3.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,233
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    As always bonus points for the other cars in the background....
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Well, I'd guess Blue is some sort of Renault based solely on my interpretation of the emblem on the grill. Actually, the only car I definitely recognize is the only 'American Iron' visible -- the white '64 Ford Galaxie 500 in the upper left corner!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,265
    TR-3 to the left?

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    edited April 2010
    The blue is either a Renault 12 or possibly its Dacia clone. Red droptop in distant background is a Ford Corsair Crayford, next to what might be a Ford Falcon Sprint. White with gold in the back could be a Lotus Cortina.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,494
    Could the open doors car next to the Triumph be a Lancia Appia?
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