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Allen
I hope that helps you choose. If you want the 0,0,0 you have to buy soon.
#1 - Does anyone know some disadvantages to this 0/0/0 promotion?
#2 - Whatever I buy will have to last me a good 5 years or more, does this vehicle hold its value well?
#3 - I have heard negative comments about Mitsu's customer service. Does this need to be a concern?
Any advice would be helpful. I'll need to make a decision soon. One other thing, does anyone know if the 0/0/0 incentive applies to the 2000 models and is there much of a difference between the 2000 and 2001 model.
Thanks!
#2 RE: Holding Value. From a percentage standpoint it should do all right. Of course, with the current gas situation and the market flood of new and used SUVs, my guess is that all SUVs will see the percentage of value drop a bit. Many tout the 4Runner as the best when it comes to holding value. Probably true from a percentage standpoint. But, you also need to realize that a similarly equipped 4Runner will cost THOUSANDS more than the Montero Sport, up front. I would not worry, at all, about the MS lasting 5 years (or MUCH longer). The drive train warranty is for 5 years. Plus, the Mitsu engines in Mitsus and Chryslers that my friends own have had well over 10 years plus.
#3 RE: Customer Service. Yes, Mitsu needs to improve here. Most people that I personally know with Mitsus have no problem, at all, with their dealers. Since Mitsu has not been a "power player" in the market, most dealers have carried the line as an addition to a major brand. So, the dollars allocated for service and service training have taken a back seat to the major brand the dealer carries...resulting in less satisfactory service results. However, with Mitsu's dramatic increase in market presence, dealers are allocating more for service, so it should improve.
Background: I purchased a 2001 LS 4WD a little over 2 months ago, and love it. Of all the mid-sized SUVs I tested, the Sport had the best on-road ride, the most standard features for the price, and the best looks! (and most capable off-road heritage). The 3.0 V-6 could use more power, but it is more than adequate for me. You might want to test the new XS model with the 3.5 and compare it with the LS 3.0 to determine your best fit. OVERALL, I am VERY satisfied with my Montero Sport.
Cheers,
Stod
Thanks in advance.
No complaints so far... great ride, and looks great too! VERY PLEASED!
Does anyone out there have any basic information about these enhancements ? Specifically, can some of these additional frame reinforcements or struts be applied to the 2000 model frame ?
The test results indicated that part of the problem with the poor "crash test dummy" results was apparently, in part, a function of the energy dissipation stitching on the lap belt. The new seat belt assemblies in the 2001 models have pre-tensioners and perhaps different stitching. Are there any good guesses on the cost of having the 2000 seat belts replaced with the 2001 mechanism ?
Any suggestions you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks !!!
I have been enjoying reading the many posts about the MS. I was so close to buying a still new 2000 Rodeo ISE for $27, (had all the extras on it too), but opted for a used MS after driving it and the price for this one with 25k miles on it was $19,100. Sure wish I had seen that one that the man in Texas had first, beck of a deal he was offering. Mine is black and a real beauty. After reading some of the posts about vibrations with a/I on, and flunking noises shifting into overdrive, we took ours out to see if it did not and ours does not appear to have any of those problems, at least at this time. We too, drove all the SUV. Hated the Toyota, the Pathfinder seemed like a 4Runner lone, the Explorer is just a plain-Dane, and we narrowed it down to the MS and the Rodeo.. deal was just too good on the MS which my wife preferred after a road test and it is her car anyway. We traded in a 99 Civic so this is a real step-up for her. Love the way it feels and prefer a 2WD just because the times we would use 4WD here in Atlanta are so rare.
Tomorrow, I am ordering a I&N Filtercharger, (do this on all my cars), and changing all the fluids immediately, (never know what is in there..). I personally only use Mobil One in my cars and usually factory or Purolater PureOne oil filters. I am looking for:
A factory service manual
Side steps
hood wind deflector
If anyone knows where a good place to shop for these items are, please drop me a note at rascal2064@yahoo.com
I also will add a keyless entry for her convenience right away too.
I look forward to chatting with bigAl and the other regulars here, you sound like knowledgeable people and I have found that all knowledge is good.
Peace,
Rascal2064
Guess what, they run great now! The Yokohama's, I believe, need to be run at at least 30 lbs or more or they start to flop going down the road.
Just my observation.
TSB-00-23-008
which replaces the transmission fluid pan with a deeper one to give the transmission more fluid. If you have a 2000 MS that is acting up or overheating, ask your dealer to replace the pan.
By the way, do NOT use the spell checker feature..it made my first post nearly laughable, sorry about that.
Peace,
Rascal
rascal2064@yahoo.com
Thanks
I've taken it to the dealer twice for these problems. Their attitude is that the high pitched humming is louder than normal (which it didn't do before the 4WD engage switch problem), but that they can't do anything about it until the transmission actually breaks. They said hopefully it will break within my 5 year/60K warranty period. Isn't that pleasant. I'm so glad after spending $32K on a brand new car off the truck that I now have to HOPE it breaks soon so I can have it properly fixed. I drive a lot in NH at night and I've been broken down at 2 am in 20 below weather. That's why I bought a NEW car so I didn't have to worry about that and go through that again. And the transmission slips too.
Fingers went wandering on post 429 and hit enter.
Anyway, Thanks Rascal on the TSB on the Trans. Pan on the 2000 Sports. Mine is being replaced, although I have had no problems as of yet. Dealer said they would take care of it, no problem. Nice!
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Per my posting above, my 2001 Montero Sport Limited is a LEMON!!!
However, if you want to persist in buying one, don't pay $500 over invoice. I paid invoice price for mine. These dealers make plenty of money on their holdback, which you don't see. I learned how at www.carbuyingtips.com.
Before I bought the MS, I drove a Rodeo...the trans clanked and clunked..the salesman told me that was normal..I said, "if that is normal, normal is not for me."
Then he tried to tell me how that would go away. I could only laugh at such a statement..."Righttt, how, by turning the stereo all the way up?" I then drove, (each car I was thinking of) around town and up and down the interstate. I did not like the Rodeo on the highway either. The Nissan dealer would not let me on the interstate, at which point, I turned the Pathfinder around and parked it back in its spot..as I headed to my car to leave he chased me. I told him that if he did not want to let me see how the car felt on the highway, then that was what I needed to know.
I had not really considered the MS until I saw it on the Dakar race. So, I drove it. Up and down the interstate, around town. No noises, no leaks, smooth shifting. End of story.
Now why would some of these be so good and some so bad like the one that "unhappymontero" has? I wish I knew, I do not. I do know this, go to every message board and we will see the same thing. Some good, some terrible. My only advice, beware. Unhappymontero, I hope you take it back three times or whatever and they have to buy the cursed thing back from you. A person just should not have to pay 5 years for a lemon. Please keep us informed.
Thanks for reading this long post and good luck to all.
Rascal
I agree with your post and I hope the dealer does take care of unhappymontero. I know that I would be very disapointed and vocal if my Monter sport was acting up. So far 3,000 miles and no issues that are the fault of the car. Hopefull all of you will continue to post, both good and ill so we are aware of issues.
A word on the Yokohama tires that came on my Montero Sport. Two weeks after purchase I went christmas tree hunting with my family. You buy permits from the forest service and head on up. Through deep snow ( a foot or so) and a very rought road they were great. A few weeks ago I went out and noticed a flat, there was a 3 inch screw in the sidewall. I call Yokohama to see if this would be covered, (OK I knew it would not be, but it never hurts to ask) The rep explained that it would not, but offered me a 50% off coupon! Very nice customer service if you ask me. So far they seem to be great tires, backed by a great company.
Just my thoughts. I am going to schedule my first (and likely last) service with the dealer. Nothing against the dealer, but they are so far away I will likely do most of the upkeep myself.
Is this normal? Does anyone else's vehicle do this? I don't recall this when test driving the vehicle.
Thanks!
1. Fog lights?
2. Hitch & Harness?
Or, should I have them order one from the factory with those items already installed? (heard they can NOT order the XLS with the fog lights - they install those at the dealership?).
I am getting the vehicle for $300 over invoice (not the best deal, but not too bad) and can pick it up sooner (I would think) if I let them install these 2 options.
All comments welcome,
Keith
Can only get in black or red (which is not a problem) and it seems that all of the options are pre-set other than dealer add-ons.
Any early feedback on this model with the larger engine? Seems like a lot of value for the dollar without upgrading to the much more expensive Limited model.
Thanks!
Let me know what you find out.
I recently discovered that my tailpipe was completely clogged with black ice. I realized it when I backed up against a snowbank, and when I pulled forward, the car died. I got out and took a look at the rear-end and discovered that my tailpipe was filled with rock-solid ice. I'm no mechanic, but I'm figuring this might be a problem. My pea-mechanic-brain tells me that lack of airflow to the engine is bad. I also know that there's absolutely NO WAY that my backing up into a snowbank could have caused the 5inches of solid ice accumulation that was later removed from the pipe. (the angle of the tailpipe is such that it is physically impossible, and there's no way that the snow would not have melted on a hot tailpipe if the pipe was exhausting air when it encountered the snow...which means that in order for the tailpipe to be cold enough to build up a 5inch chunk of ice, it could not possibly have been exchanging air for quite a bit of time.)
My question for anyone who knows anything about these sorts of things: (1) What should I do now? (After the evil service department at the evil dealership knocked the ice chunk out of the tailpipe the car ran fine.) (2) Has anyone else had such a problem? (3) Is there a possibility that there was something wrong w/ the car in the first place so that ice managed to accumulate? (4) What kind of damage does/can a clogged tailpipe cause to the car's engine?
Thanks for your response(s).
Oh...sidenote...I also (bad luck month) recently ran over a screw which managed to wedge itself into the non-belted part of my Yokohama. Any ideas on cheap replacements? Anybody know if there's an argument (frivolous) to be made that it should be covered by warranty? (The "injury" is non-pluggable.)
Thanks.
-Jen
Did you consider replacing your vehicle under the lemon law? I think this is my next step. Please respond to me directly at: monterosport@usa.net
Thanks
Good luck, and keep us posted if you figure out the ice in the tail pipe issue.
Got the Trans. oil pan replaced. No hassles. I am lucky that I have a quality dealership that will do this on a TSB notification. I understand that they really do not have too, if you are not experiencing problems. But, I do tow a boat during the summer and pointed out that Mitsu. should want to replace the pan versus replacing a burned out transmission.
So far, my 2000 4X4 LTD Sport has been a quality rig. Has 17,000 miles and 15 months of ownership. Three things done to it: 1) Fix small vibration rattle under dash. 2) Tightened front wheel bearings. Tire shop that does rotating/balancing said left front was a little loose. Dealership checked and tightened both front bearings. 3) And the Transmission pan replaced per TSB-00-23-008. All under warranty with no cost to me.
Has anyone heard of any new equipment on the 2002?
thanks for your help
Now the right rear passenger door area leaks when it rains. According to the dealership, that problem can only be repaird on Mondays. Interesting....
Also, when I first started coming to the dealership where I bought the car for repairs, I was a VIP customer and provided with a loaner car for free while my 2001 MS was in the shop. This last week for my 3rd repair attempt, I was not VIP anymore and "giving loaner vehicles for customers has been revoked by Mitsubishi, unless there's actually a problem with the car." Nice customer service. Do any of you get the JD Power and Associates surveys after the car goes in the shop? I filled one out and said I was unhappy with the mechanic getting grease on the leather seats, steering wheel, and carpet, unhappy with them chipping the paint on my bumper and refusing to repaint it and instead attempting to buff it out (which didn't work...I gave up on that issue), and having a defective car they wouldn't fix. When I came in this last week, after we fill out the work order he gets out his file and confronted me with my comments to JD Power and wanted to debate them with me. I asked him if anything in the JD Power wasn't true? He didn't answer. He just thinks a chipped bumper wouldn't bug him and cars get chipped in time anyways. So at the end of the day he gave me a free LOF, but didn't fix the howling noise. Told me since he gave me a free LOF, that I should give him a good review in JD Power.
"Mitsubishi has been forced to recall up to 700,000 cars and trucks worldwide and faces possible prosecution over hiding information on defective vehicles.
The cover-up was detected after officials from Japan's transport ministry, acting on a tip-off, raided the company's headquarters in Tokyo earlier this month." This is an article from the Sydney Herald on July 20th.
Real high quality company. I hope the company tanks.
When I mentioned that I was in the new car market and was looking at Mustangs, he pulled out his sales contact so I could see the price he paid along with all the miscellaneous charges for plates, title, etc.
He looked at the sales contact and noticed that price for the expended warranty was $1,440.00 instead of $1,140.00. He paid $300.00 more for the extended warranty on the sale contract.
I doubt it was a mis-type, but it is too late now. $300.00 easy dollars to the dealer.