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There are no major expected changes for the 2002 Nevi. Lincoln may ad an Ebony interior color (a a the Black wood) to the Navies options list. the only other notable change may be the introduction of a sat. radio system.
--Butt
they ordered a new drive shaft and will be calling me soon.
first they said i needed 40 psi tire pressure, second visit they replaced some bushings or bearings and last visit they replaced engine mounts.
i suggested to each visit that from this forum others are having similar problems and vibrations went away after replacing the tires with michelins. i have 265/70/17 continentals (not part of recall).
what steps do i do, to possibly pursue a lemon act suit.
the upside...drove to sf and got 16.8 mpg, never thought i'd get that high
Replaced the two engine mounts and one tranny mount and the vibration is gone. After six months of back and forth this problem, it's gone. The SUV feels like a Lincoln again. Now I've been keeping track of the gas mileage. Been getting about 13mpg combined city/hyway. Can anyone comment on this if this gas mileage is normal or a little on the low side.
I'm a longtime Volvo driver trying to decide on a new SUV or Minivan to tote my kids and pals (Soccer Mom) I have looked at Landcruiser which I like, but have reservations about price and stereo problem I keep reading about. I also like the Lincoln Navigator- mostly the 300 HP and bells and whistles at a lower price. Service package is appealing, etc. Cons for the Lincoln Nav are size and steering column gear shift as well as brake pedal placement. 3rd seat seems a bit clunky to take in and out, but love 2nd row captains chairs and we would have an entertainment/TV system put in.
I haven't driven a minivan yet, but like the third seat availability better - just don't like V6 as much as V8 and safety records on some are not impressive.
Does anyone have any wisdom to share before I take the plunge? Looking for someone who loves their Lincoln Nav and why.
An entertainment system is available on the Navigator as a factory installed option. The screen comes down from overhead. Another option is a navigation system in the floor console.
Regarding the Day Time Running lights - they are a dealer-installed option. The unit costs around 60 dollars + labor. I put them on my 1998 Nov, they work well.. one issue.. the headlights are on during the day and all lights come on at night. If your parked at night with the car running, you cannot turn off the lights... the only way is to turn off the car.
-Dave
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the dealer had a ford factory engineer look a my 2001 nav yesterday and concluded that everything is within specifications. my nav leans driver rear side 1/2' to 3/4' from floor to fender and from the bottom of the rim 1/4' to 1/2', it varies from day to day. they said the factory specifications is up to 3/4' from the bottom of the rim to the fender. I followed my wife from my car and it noticeably leans. no attempts was made to fix.
in regards to the vibration, they replaced the drive shaft,bushings, dampners and engine mounts. it stills has vibration on freeway speeds and the ford rep engineer said everything is normal and it's just road feel.I had the foreman show me all the navigators on their lot and none of them leans.
I called the ford customer assistance 800-9973725 and she said they cannot escalate any higher and they have to agree with the dealership. my request to speak to the ford engineer was denied by the ford rep and the dealer mananger.
where do I go from here? please help.
in regards to the leaning the invoice stated the rear leans 1/2" side to side and 3/8" in the front and all are within factory specifications per ford motor co. engineer and ford service rep.
doug,
did you try taking it to a different dealer? I'm thinking of doing that. are your problems worse than mine? I mentioned to the manager about taking it to arbitration but it did not help the situation. will arbitration work for me even if ford rep said everything is within specifications. is he right?
thanks
In retrospect, the first warning sign should have been the repair report from the first trip in - it said "if reprogramming the GEM module doesn't help we will need to wait for a service procedure from Ford Engineering" - couldn't be that they have seen this before?
I'll do it anyways. I'll call that ford arbitration number next to see if they can help.
thanks
With problems like vibration,engines failures, leaning,recalls, depreciations,etc., given the choice between the two vehicles, I stand firm saying that you couldn't give me a 2001 NAV for my little 1997 Land Cruiser. If the person that started this subject will be towing an 8000lb boat and don't mind a recall every now and then, maybe a little vibration, major depreciation as soon as he drives off the lot. That's his choice!
We can only offer our opinions. All of the information I'm offering comes off these 2 vehicle forums. The 1998 Land Cruiser,the problem with the radio, major issue and Toyota I think has a fix for that.
thanks
Thr lemon law process is very simple, three repair attempts for the same problem ( it does not matter if they say it is within tolerance, they are banking on that you will accept their theory )and one final final repair attempt. Read your lemon law pamplet and you should hire an attorney to represent you.
Good Luck
I am interested in leasing a 2001 Nav 4x4. I would like to put down as little as possible for a 36 months 15K miles yr. My question is, can anyone tell me if they are happy with their Nav? I heard a lot of problems with earlier model years and would like to know if they have been corrected, or should I stay away!
Also, What is a resonable monthly lease price for 36 months.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
There seems to be a nagging problem with some nav's and steering wheel vibrations. In fact, the first nav I test drove rode great on a side street but going 65 in an expressway the wheel shook horribly. I test drove another nav that was smooth as silk all around (of course, that's the one I bought!). In any case, demand a test drive on an expressway going over 60mph for a few miles.. if anything doesn't feel right, test another one 'till you get a good one.
I was torn orginally between the NAV and the Lexus LX 470. THe 470 is as sweet as can be... BUT it feels cramped to me (i'm a very big guy) and the extra $20,000 seemed a bit much to swallow. My wife owns a lexus ES300 and the lexus experience while good, isn't worth $20,000 (or around $200-300 extra per month on a lease payment!)
Anyhow, happy shopping and check out the site below!
http://www.fordcredit.com/fintools/
ALSO LOOKING FOR REPLACEMENT TIRES, THE TIRE DEALERS AROUND HERE SAY THIS IS THE ONLY TIRE LISTED BY FORD.
I noticed that the default CD-ROM is specifically regionally targeted with a general countrywide outlook...
Thanks......
Tomorrow we pick up our new 2001 Navigator, and in the past few days have been reading everything I can about them on the web.
Forgetting all the positive things that are said, and some negatives which might be deserved, the hate, and rudeness directed towards Navigators is alarming. I forget which car magazine had a site where folks could rate the cars, but one guy, who said he doesn't own one, but enjoys going to dealers to test drive cars, rated the Navigator........ and it was obscene.
The Edmunds reviewer reminded me of some college kid who just found out what an adjective and metaphor were.It was a poor imitation of Dennis Miller on STP. His review was down right hateful, but he put the 'gator in 3rd place behind the Lexus and Mercedes, all nice cars, and behind that stable, 3rd is not bad for a car that is $15,000 - $20,000 less.
My question, forgetting issues of poor dealer relations with some customers, why does the Navigator deserve or bring with it such anger, and especially from those who don't even own them?
I am not discussing angry letters or rants from folks who have had their problems/issues with the vehicle, but addressing why this SUV brings such hate and anger and mis-information to the table?
I still own a 1956 Studebaker Golden Hawk ... don't send hate mail
Bill