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Steve
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Recently, I had it looked at a 2 different dealers and both of them said that according to the Ford Engineers that there is not a fix to this problem.
I was able to get it escalated to Executive complaints here in Dearborn,MI and so far my choices are limited. I was told I could go to arbitration or wait until they get a fix to this problem. Does anyone had this leaning problem and got it fixed?
Ford Executive Complaints offered arbitration.It may not be worthwhile because my lease is over on 6/03.
"trapperkeeper" How did you get the 5k discount towards a new vehicle?
Do you think I will win arbitration. They do not consider this a safety issue even though I complained about the vehicle would not drive straight. They cannot duplicate this problem.
Thanks for replying
Thanks.
tidester
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listening to radio/CD while kids enjoying DVD movie with headphones on. nice features ah?!
Erik
I do not know the answer to your question but I wonder whether the seat heaters are thermostatically controlled. If so, you may not notice any heating until the weather gets sufficiently cold again. Perhaps someone else here knows the answer.
tidester
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Thanks.
Also, I had a chance to finally sit in a 2003 Nav. It looks and feels GREAT! The interior looks much more up scale and has a higher quality feel to it. Pictures don't do this interior justice. You've got to sit in it to appreciate it. Anyone out there driven it yet? Has the ride improved as much as I've been hearing?
Other than the engine, it drives great for such a large truck. It doesn't feel that big driving it. I can't compare it to a pre-2003 nav as I have only driven the new one.
I still need to do another test drive and a garage test to see how the truck fits. I am am probably going to also wait and see the Aviator - not sure I need all the space of the Navigator. The Aviator sounds like it will have almost all the same toys including the 300hp engine.
- needs a little more horsepower (if it had the V10 from the excursion we would probably be done shopping :-)
- the seats do not impress us (my wife calls them 1 person bench seats :-)
- Auto-down only on driver's window
- No auto-close on sunroof (have to check this again - appears you have to hold the button to close the sunroof - can't just push it once).
Some questions:
Has anyone seen the Navigation system? (dealer has none in stock with one). How is it? We have it in our current cars so we will definitely order it. Anyone know if the power running boards actually offer any extra utility or are they mostly a gimmmick?
Also, has anyone seen the mineral gray color? We love the Black navigator but all our cars are currently black - looking for something a little different.
Last, what trucks does everyone cross-shop with the Navigator. We plan to cross-shop the following (basically trucks with a 3rd row):
- LX470 - the "third" row is useless (feet on the storage floor)
- Escalade - no Nav system (atleast from the option list I read)
- Acura MDX
- Mercedes ML500 (have to see what the 3rd row looks like)
- We might wait for the Aviator and if we get really patient, the volvo xc90.
Still haven't seen a Nav in the way I desire it, that being a Ultimate with Nav and Entertainment Package
John
I am looking at the ultimate 2003 with ent and nav and running boards. I had a 98 and currently lease a 2000.
It seems that a good number of SUVs and cars (particularly foreign) have that wide center console which comes down at an angle. As a result, my leg gets trapped between the console and the steering wheel. Also the panel which runs above your leg is also at a steep angle, which in turn means that I am not able to touch the gas or break pedal.
The only inexpensive car that I can fit in comfortably is the new Nissan Altima. In the this vehicle the floor well is deep and you can telescope the steering wheel to get around your legs.
Ford needed to research a little more before bringing this one out. I feel that a good majority of people who buy these large SUV's are people who need a large vehicle to support there large body frames. But the new Navigator seems to be made like a small german or asian sports car which has the center console an no room. They should take some ques from the new Ranger Rover.