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Have a great weekend!!!
I would have never thought of it either. I found it online and thought it was worth a try. The guy who posted it suggested buying chineese food for the packets but then I thought, I probably have some of those in an OTC medicine bottle. It sure was easier than baking the headlights.
The only problem with desiccant packets is that they absorb a very limited amount of moisture. You must determine what allowed the moisture into the housing and cure the problem.
Mike
The fact that the moisture disappeared is an anomaly.
When dessicants are heated, as in a hot head lamp, the moisture quickly dissipates from the chemical and therefore would go back into the environment. In this case the headlight assembly.
I'm happy that the problem resolved itself, however, I don't believe that it was the silica bags that produced the desired result.
I had placed some vinyl "chrome" molding around the headlamp assemblies to add a little "bling". I think in the process the bling may have either blocked all ventilation to the headlamp assembly or not allowed for the assembly to expand and contract with heat. I removed the molding.
I doubt that the headlamp units are air tight.
If anything, there may very well be a ventilation hole.
Good luck!
I read somewhere there is a ventilation hole. The moisture seemed to be trapped between the clear glass in front and the amber colored glass. A trip to the touchless high pressure car wash today resulted in no water in the lamps even after driving with home after dark with the lights on.
The heat of the lamps should cause any water to evaporate and escape thru ventilation hole.
I agree that it should evaporate thru the ventilation hole. However, I've read that this is a common problem and see it on a number of vehicles. I read on a Lexus board that many people were having the same problem. I also saw it as a common problem for Ford Crown Vics and Mercury Grand Marquis. I see lots of cars that have had this problem long enough that the headlights are yellowed from this problem.
Check these links; http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/headlights/index.html
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15054.html
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic295357.htm
http://www.smartmotorist.com/lig/lig.htm
It seems to be a common problem that is not handled by evaporation.
Your smartmotorist link confirms my theory about the vent hole problem as a potential cause of the moisture problem.
If a defect in the unit is the cause of the moisture problem, the dealer should replace the unit under warranty without the necessity of going through the arduous repair,
It does seem to confirm it for many vehicles. It appears the problem is exacerbated by Xenon bulbs and the increased heat. I can only assume that the chrome trim I placed around the headlamp assemblies may have interfered with evaporation. I'm not sure if the dealer would accept responsibility in that case.
Thanks Allmet. I didn't really care about the "science" involved, just a solution which I apparently found. I did make sure that the dust covers were securely attached. I suspect the culprit might also be the turn signal bulb which does not appear to seal as well as the headlamp bulb covers. That is where the moisture was between the clear plastic and the amber plastic. I put some headlamp bulb sealant on that cover after drying out the assembly as well as I could and putting it the dessicant packets.
Good luck to anyone else with this issue.
Has anyone else noticed this problem? I wouldn't have noticed if my wife hadn't seen it.
Does anyone know enough about the science of LEDs to suggest a cause/solution to this. You might want to check your own tailights.
I'll be talking to the dealer about this one.
Definitely a warranty situation.
Where did you get your HID ? And price you paid if you can share.
Thank you
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H7-10000K-AUTO-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-FREE-SHIPPING_W- - - 0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ003QQitemZ130128007902QQtcZphoto
It is long, but cut in paste in the browser address line (if the link is not live). Two things to remember:
1-I purchased the standard kit (showing the ballasts that are pictured on this ebay link). He also is selling a slim ballast kit too - a little more expensive.
2- What year Azera do you have. 2006's use an H7 kit.
2007's started with an H7 and changed to an H11B (reported here in this forum)
Check it out before you buy.
I can tell you that the kit I have has overload fuses in line with the bulb. It actually saved the bulb from possible damage. I forgot to turn the headlight switch off and turned the key a few times to check something. The 15 cent fuse went, not the bulb. Good feature most kits do not have.
If you want a blue tint, order the 5000-5500 degree kit. The 6500 degree kit has a pronounce blue tint. I tried another manufacturers 4300 degree kit. Still too yellow in comparison to the 5000.
Am I satisfied - After 8 months of use, I would do it gain in a heartbeat. Great output - crisp and clean.
Good luck on whatever you choose.
Arbee88
Thank you for your reply. I got a 2006 and I will go check out the link. One last thing, in the fues-box there is a HID slot. Do I need to do anything with that? Or just replace the head beam ones if they are under 20
Thank you, Bill
Good Luck...I am sure you will like them.
Arbee88
headlights on a 2006 Hyundai Azera?
Thank you for your reply. I checked the ebay store. They have a lot of options.
For my 06 Azera, do I need a H7 kit?
Should I pick 5000k if I want to see road brighter?
They have a slim kit which says don't need drill hole/special tool, is that possiable?
Also, they mentioned that I need to replace bulb every 5 years? Is that the same as the one you got?
Thank you, Bill
Reread my post to you, #227, it answers most of your questions.
It does not seem possible that you can get a kit that eliminates the holes needing to be drilled in the dust caps. Post the link to this kit, maybe you are misreading the info..maybe you do not need to drill holes to mount the ballasts.
Thank you for your reply. Based on your post 227, I guess 5000k H7 kit will do.
Here is the link for the store. They mentioned that doesn't need any tool. Also by reply my question, the store owner's answer is "No drill hole needed".
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130157212162
Also, the link also states that need to replace bulb every 5 years.
Thank you
For all of you Azera owners, I was sitting at a stoplight over the weekend and saw a black Azera that also had some LEDs out on the trunk mounted tailights. You might want to take a look at yours. I don't want to start a frenzy here but it's one of those things that's hard to see since one hardly ever has a chance to see the back of their own car while they are driving it.
Why would you expect the light replacement not to be covered under warranty?
That sounds bogus to me...
I can't believe they said that to you!
This picture is taken with the flash on
This is without the flash
Good luck and keep us posted.
Regards,
How much more proof would you need?
My Azera is a 2006 model...Are you saying that the 2007 models removed the ashtray light?
That sounds ridiculous to me!
I would be very surprised that Hyundai would go through the trouble of removing/changing wiring harness to remove a simple light.
I hope someone from Canada with a 2007 model can shed some "LIGHT" here.
Regards,
To even think Korean exports to Canada would not include an astray light is absurb, unless of course Canada is a non smoking country.
The dealer is conning you, plain and simple.
It seems you are right about the different options in different countries so no amount of evidence of what a U.S mraket Azera. has is going to change what a Canadian Azera has. Routing wiring to put that light in might no be worth the cost.
The Ranger boat I owned had lights mounted in the cigarette lighters with switches to turn them on and off. That might be a cheaper solution to the issue.
Thanks
It is covered by warranty.Let them fix it.
The owners' manual apparently went to print before the production started, which isn't unusual...
If you're not certain, pull the lamps out and look at them: H7 high beam bulbs, H11b (Osram-only?) low beams. I didn't try to pull the fogs since it's such a PIA, but they seem more than adequate as far as my limited three-days' experience goes. I would like to find a Narva "+50" replacement for the H11b's, though!
He also tells me that there is no upgrade path for the Osram-only H11b part. You're only option is to whittle the socket off and replace with an H9 socket, which gives you 2100 candlepower vice the 1300 found in the H11b part. For the time being, I'm going to just be happy with what I've got, though I'm thinking about going to the H9 setup. :surprise:
By the way - there is a REALLY nice OSRAM replacement for the H7 bulbs in the high beams for '08 models (check before you assume - see previous post above) and both high/lows in the previous years' models: "Rallye 65 watt 'Ultra High Output'" which Daniel pointed out is a super-bright bulb that should cost you about $25-30 bucks each depending on where you find them. My vision for 75mph night driving is like night and day compared to the OEM (also OSRAM) bulb! It is also 2100 lumens as opposed to the standard 1400. Quite a step up! (might help those of you with the cut-off problem in the low beams on '06 and '07 models...)
Popping out both high and low beam bulbs and replacing them can be done in about 60 seconds with care, 30 seconds if you're in a hurry on the '08. I really don't know why the owners' manual suggests that you remove the entire assembly: they are EASILY popped out (and in) by simply twisting the cap 1/4 turn and flipping the clip.