Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
control teak 4x4 ac tow at very basic in good condition. The dealership that selling it is asking $8600 I am going to offer them $7400 cash
does that sound reasonable? comments?
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
You can get either $2k, but no special rate, $1k with a special rate, or $0k with a somewhat different special rate, depending.
If it were me, I'd be trying to swing the 0.9%, $1k cash, 36 month deal.
Whatever you decide to offer, make sure 1)You and the salesman both know what the factory incentives are and 2)Your offer does not take the incentives into consideration
base price = $20,405
+ sport value group 2,345
+ cover 75
+ 4 spd auto 945
+ deep tinted glass 270
+ heated mirrors 45
+ sentry key theft system 75
+ fog lamps 110
+ speed control 250
+ cassette/cd/equalizer 410
+ full size spare 145
Total MSRP = $25,660
minus $2,345 for the value group discount so the
Net MSRP = $23,315
we got the $2,000 customer rebate and $1,000 dealer incentive, plus they came down another $1,603.
We paid $18,712!!
We traded my wifes 99 Mazda 626 LX with 30,400 miles. Edmunds said in clean condition we could expect to get $9645 as a trade-in. They gave us $10,000.
On top of that, we used E-LOAN.com and got 7.35% for 72 months!! That's a darn good rate.
I think we got a decent deal, at least as good as one would expect. And my wife is extremely pleased with the Jeep.
too bad I can't fit into the Cherokee.
I love the styling, motor, room, size, everything.
My only complaint is my knees hit the steering wheel.
dangit!
Thanks. We are going to practice towing close to home before we our trip. I am pretty sure the trailer has brakes, I am going to ask my dad.
I am currently checking out the XTerra and 4Runner (used).
Keep in touch.
Yes I've had issues with the Jeep's I've owned, some aggravating. I do feel corners are cut in some areas such as fit, finish, trim and accessories. However the aftermarket support for Cherokees is superb, which means you can replace or update parts you don't like, easily enough. That and 18 years worth of junkyard parts. What I have found is the powertrain and suspension has been rock solid. And for me this counts far more than anything cosmetic. Partly I can accept this because the price - I just don't expect the amenities of a 30,000 something SUV. 20 Grand is *still* a lot of money, but when you consider you get the capability of other vehicles for so many thousands less, it's a little easier to take. There are parts I wish were a little more robust, for example the standard radiator is only a single core, however upgrading the radiator core is a fairly easy process taking less than two hours and not many tools. So I guess it's my own tolerance and knowledge of the vehicle, what it does well and what it doesn't - and I still love them.
Please say you engaged 4wd offroad, or on packed snow, or on sand, and not on dry pavement....
Please?
Command trac is not a fulltime 4wd system. It does not have any sort of differential in the transfer case. You can damage it if you engage it on dry pavement, where traction is good.
You didn't do this did you?
even during snow, the wheel jerks when it is fully turned, i am planning to test drive another 1999 today and see if it is only mine or it is a common trait. because it is really beginning to agitate me. little embarrassing too when my friends sit in and the car jerks like heck everytime i turn!
The front and rear driveshafts turn at the same rate when in 4H. The wheels can't scrub off the difference when making a turn (when the outside wheels must travel different distances) if traction is good.
I know have 38,000 miles and still love it < the funny thing is I wanted a 4x4 with a 5spd / found several here in Tamp Bay / but all Forest Green/ my bad luck color/ 24- 25mpg on highway @70mph /
What I would like to know what are the after market Parts seasoned Cherokee owners might recommend , RE: exhaust / suspension, filters etc, would like to some advice / planning on keeping it 150,000 more miles I hope
What sort of things are you looking for? The 4.0 liter engine frequently goes over 200k miles with proper maintenance. A factory service manual is probably the first thing you should get.
I would suggest you get involved with NAXJA (www.naxja.org) and/or JU (www.jeepsunlimited.com) or any other dedicated Jeep site. The guys that post there typically know the vehicle inside and out and can quickly offer suggestions for just about everything you'll come up against.
An EZ locker is probably $250 plus $100 installation. An ARB airlocker is more like $650 plus $200 compressor plus $300 install. Per axle.
When it comes to lockers/lsds, the first thing you need to find out is what axles you have, because not all manufacturers make their product for all axle types. Most XJs have a DANA30 up front, for which ARB has a locker that will fit. However, with 97+, the rear is generally a ChryCo8.25, which ARB doesn't have one for yet. They keep saying its coming out...
At any rate, if its something you are interested in pursuing, I would start hanging out at sites like NAXJA and Jeepsunlimited. I'm not an expert at all, but you'll find the guys who are at those places.
I was talking about buying a 4x4. He said something like "Hey, they plow the roads here, what's the problem?" We live in Massachusetts, and then I told him how I like to ski in VT, so he gave me credit there. He has a '94 Ranger pickup, and I said you could always get a locking differential. He said a cheaper way out is to just weld the axles together and not worry about the tire scrubbing, just buy cheap tires every other year. There is some point to this, I guess.
Ummm, since about 1995, Jeep said to heck with locking hubs, axle disconnects and any similar devices. What this means is the front and rear axles, differentials and driveshafts are always turning. With proper lubrication it's fine, because with the typical Part Time system on most Cherokees, the front wheels are not *driven* most of the time. They are just turn, and all they do is stir up a bit more fluid in the transfer case. But when you place it in the 4WD modes, then you split torque and send half of it to the front driveshaft and on out to the wheels. The ways this arrangement will cause severe wheel scuffing is leaving it in 4WD mode, (also known as locked) which will create severe driveline loads and stresses and will likely break something expensive in a short time, or the front end is worn or out of alignment...
I don't think that idea is worthwhile at all. For starters, "cheap tires" shouldn't be a vocabulary word. Its the only part of the vehicle in contact with the road.
2nd, I think it would wear the tires out MUCH sooner than every 2 years. Probably more like 2 or 3 times a year, depending on where you live and how often you drive.
3rd, the stress on the welds would be incredible, if you somehow manage to weld them to make it work. I would expect the welds to break fairly quickly, which might destroy the "differential" housing such that rewelding impossible.
All to save $200 or $300? Not a chance.
Concerning radios, I know that my '90 cherokee has a Jenson system (this may only be the speakers-not up on sound systems).
But the costs of those parts, even used, plus the labor involved probably exceeds the difference in cost between a used 2wd '90 and a used 4wd '90. Some people like the learning experience that goes with doing that kind of a job though....
Somewhere there is an article that describes the conversion; if I can find it I'll post it.
143ally: Sorry, I guess I wasn't being clear. The "cost" depends entirely on what you want to do. You can spend a little, or ALOT. What year is your XJ? If you have the Cryco 8.25 rear axle, everyones favorite is a Powertrax No Slip. Its a locker that works well on the road. It costs between $350 to $400, plus an hour labor (figure $100). If you are handy, you can install it yourself. If you are interested, here is Powertrax's list of distributors. Call one near you and ask for the price.
http://www.gr8ride.com/articles/000534ah/000534ahb.pdf
I'm not about to buy another one unless the brake problems have been fixed. Five brake jobs on the front, three on the rear in 35K. Too expensive to even consider keeping this car beyond the warranty mileage.
However, if you are inquiring about the Grand Cherokee, you are in the wrong forum. This forum is for the XJ Cherokee.
143ally: You're welcome. :-)
We were going to tow my parents' camping trailer. We hooked it up and the jeep towed it just fine the night before. When we left the next morning, we got about 5 miles from my parent's house and the brakes on the trailer kept locking up. We are not sure what the problem was, but we did have to use an adapter to plug in the trailer lights because the tow package had a 7 prong plug and the trailer had a 6 prong plug. When we go the trailer back to my parent's house, my dad found that a fuse had blown in the trailer. I don't think we should have used the adapter. Anyway, the jeep sure did prove that it could tow the trailer. We went up and down hills without any problems. It was a real bummer when the brakes on the trailer locked up. We really wanted to tow the trailer on our trip to camp in.
We still love the jeep after 1 month!