2017 Ford Escape Lease Questions

kyfdx · May 2017

mmyimm430 said:

Michaell said:

mmyimm430 said:
Could you please provide the MF and Residual for 2017 Escape SE FWD for 24 mo/10K in NYC? Thanks a lot.
59% and 1.00%

$3000 lease cash
Thanks. This is my first time leasing a car could you please explain what lease cash means? Is that the rebate the dealer is getting from the manufacturer? I got a quote today for 0 down and it looked pretty expensive:

MSRP: 26145
REBATE: 4000
CAP COST: 22145
MONTHLY: 383

Could you please comment on this quote? Thanks.

Lease cash is an incentive. It's likely part of that rebate on your quote.
If your CAP cost is the MSRP minus the rebate, then the dealer isn't providing any discount. Also, 36 month leases are much more cost effective (generally) than 24 month leases. Add those two things up, and it results in a high lease payment.

kyfdx · May 2017

jorilla said:
Hey can I please get RV, APR, & Lease Cash on 2017 Escape SE Johnson City TN lease term is 36/10K and 36/12k thank you

1.00% APR and 52%/51% residual
$2000 lease cash

zdad · May 2017

OK....a lease know nothing here. The deal I have is
---Escape Titanium
---$3400 in incentives
---$1500 dealer discount
---1.25%MF
---50% residual
---36mo/12k mi

Feels right. MF may be .25-.50 high, but a strong discount, and the highest trade on old car from any dealer.

Opine away.

kyfdx · May 2017

zdad said:
OK....a lease know nothing here. The deal I have is
---Escape Titanium
---$3400 in incentives
---$1500 dealer discount
---1.25%MF
---50% residual
---36mo/12k mi

Feels right. MF may be .25-.50 high, but a strong discount, and the highest trade on old car from any dealer.

Opine away.

We show the residual as 51% for 36/12.
What state?

zdad · May 2017

kyfdx said:

zdad said:
OK....a lease know nothing here. The deal I have is
---Escape Titanium
---$3400 in incentives
---$1500 dealer discount
---1.25%MF
---50% residual
---36mo/12k mi

Feels right. MF may be .25-.50 high, but a strong discount, and the highest trade on old car from any dealer.

Opine away.
We show the residual as 51% for 36/12.
What state?

Pennsylvania

kyfdx · May 2017

zdad said:

kyfdx said:

zdad said:
OK....a lease know nothing here. The deal I have is
---Escape Titanium
---$3400 in incentives
---$1500 dealer discount
---1.25%MF
---50% residual
---36mo/12k mi

Feels right. MF may be .25-.50 high, but a strong discount, and the highest trade on old car from any dealer.

Opine away.
We show the residual as 51% for 36/12.
What state?
Pennsylvania

0.75% APR and 51% residual
$3000 lease cash

bbarth01 · June 2017

Hi!

May I please have the RV/MF on the following two trims in SoCal?

Escape SE w/201a package
Escape SE w/out 201a package

What would be a good dealership discount off MSRP to target outside of incentives?

kyfdx · June 2017

bbarth01 said:
Hi!

May I please have the RV/MF on the following two trims in SoCal?

Escape SE w/201a package
Escape SE w/out 201a package

What would be a good dealership discount off MSRP to target outside of incentives?

1.00% APR and 49% residual for 36/15.
$2000 lease cash.

Packages have no effect on lease variables.

No info on pricing.

bbarth01 · June 2017

Hi! I should have clarified the term and mileage in my original post.

RV/MF for the SE at 36mo & 12k in SoCal. I see residual is 49% for 15k, but I will be looking at 12k.

Thank you so much!

Michaell · June 2017

bbarth01 said:
Hi! I should have clarified the term and mileage in my original post.

RV/MF for the SE at 36mo & 12k in SoCal. I see residual is 49% for 15k, but I will be looking at 12k.

Thank you so much!

51% for 36/12

rime1687 · June 2017

May I please have the MF(or APR) and the RV for 2017 Ford Escape Titanium in Alabama? 36/12

Michaell · June 2017

rime1687 said:
May I please have the MF(or APR) and the RV for 2017 Ford Escape Titanium in Alabama? 36/12

51% and 1.00%

$2000 lease cash

gregw5 · June 2017

if you would be so kind to provide lease numbers for 2017 Escape SE: 24mos / 10k miles per year Thank you!

Michaell · June 2017

gregw5 said:
if you would be so kind to provide lease numbers for 2017 Escape SE: 24mos / 10k miles per year Thank you!

What state? Ford numbers are regional.

dbhunter · June 2017

If you could supply info for 2017 escape SE for OH front wheel drive 10K and 12K miles. MF and residual please.
thank you

Michaell · June 2017

dbhunter said:
If you could supply info for 2017 escape SE for OH front wheel drive 10K and 12K miles. MF and residual please.
thank you

.75% and 52% / 51%

$3000 lease cash

dbhunter · June 2017

Thank you very much for the info!

littlemisszoom · June 2017

Good morning! May I please get the latest information on a Ford Escape Titanium in AL? Thank you!

kyfdx · June 2017

littlemisszoom said:
Good morning! May I please get the latest information on a Ford Escape Titanium in AL? Thank you!

1.00% APR and 49% residual for 36/15
$2000 lease cash

littlemisszoom · June 2017

Thank you!!!

robt1975 · June 2017

Hello! Do you have the numbers for Hawaii, Titanium fwd for 36/10 and 24/10? Thank you!

Michaell · June 2017

robt1975 said:
Hello! Do you have the numbers for Hawaii, Titanium fwd for 36/10 and 24/10? Thank you!

24/10 - 59%
36/10 - 52%

No regional MF numbers for Hawaii - closest I have is SoCal at .25% for 24 months or 1.00% for 36 months

$2000 lease cash

cylint1 · July 2017

Hello,

1. Escape AWD SE, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?
2. Escape AWD Titanium, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?

Thanks!

roman_g · July 2017

Hi,
Can you please post MF and Residual for Escape FWD Titanium, 36 mo / 10K in SF Bay Area?
Thanks.

kyfdx · July 2017

cylint1 said:
Hello,

1. Escape AWD SE, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?
2. Escape AWD Titanium, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?

Thanks!

0.75% APR and 51% residual
$3000 lease cash
Either model.

kyfdx · July 2017

roman_g said:
Hi,
Can you please post MF and Residual for Escape FWD Titanium, 36 mo / 10K in SF Bay Area?
Thanks.

1.00% APR and 52% residual
$2000 lease cash

bschleifer · July 2017

Can you please post MF and Residual for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/10.5 in Ohio (zip 44281)?

Thank you in advance for the information! I think a dealership is fudging the numbers.

kyfdx · July 2017

bschleifer said:
Can you please post MF and Residual for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/10.5 in Ohio (zip 44281)?

Thank you in advance for the information! I think a dealership is fudging the numbers.

0.75% APR and 52% residual
$3000 lease cash

shotforth · July 2017

Looking for MF for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/15 in Wisconsin (ZIP: 53704) please. Thank you!

kyfdx · July 2017

shotforth said:
Looking for MF for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/15 in Wisconsin (ZIP: 53704) please. Thank you!

0.75% APR
$2750 lease cash
47% residual

foxis86 · July 2017

Hi

Can I get the RV & MF for SE & Titanium for 36 mo / 10k in Orlando, FL

Thanks for the info!!

Michaell · July 2017

foxis86 said:
Hi

Can I get the RV & MF for SE & Titanium for 36 mo / 10k in Orlando, FL

Thanks for the info!!

50% and 1.00%

$2500 lease cash

mjc_487 · July 2017

Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!

kyfdx · July 2017

mjc_487 said:
Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!

0.25% APR and 50% residual
$3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

How much is due at signing?
Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

$940 isn't a very big dealer discount.

mjc_487 · July 2017

kyfdx said:

mjc_487 said:
Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!
0.25% APR and 50% residual
$3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

How much is due at signing?
Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

$940 isn't a very big dealer discount.

Thanks for the fast reply!

So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.

Michaell · July 2017

mjc_487 said:

kyfdx said:

mjc_487 said:
Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!
0.25% APR and 50% residual
$3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

How much is due at signing?
Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

$940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
Thanks for the fast reply!

So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.

You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

mjc_487 · July 2017

Michaell said:

Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!
0.25% APR and 50% residual $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region) Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax. If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax How much is due at signing? Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost? $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
Thanks for the fast reply! So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website. They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?) Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed. Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
You can't look at the residual in a vacuum. The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010). Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked. We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual. The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory. The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice?

As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class?

Thanks again!!

mjc_487 · July 2017

Michaell said:

mjc_487 said:

kyfdx said:

mjc_487 said:
Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!
0.25% APR and 50% residual
$3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

How much is due at signing?
Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

$940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
Thanks for the fast reply!

So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice?

As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class?

Thanks again!!

Michaell · July 2017

mjc_487 said:

Michaell said:

mjc_487 said:

kyfdx said:

mjc_487 said:
Hey,

I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term.

Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right?

Thanks!!
0.25% APR and 50% residual
$3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

How much is due at signing?
Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

$940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
Thanks for the fast reply!

So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice?

As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class?

Thanks again!!

Not exactly sure what you mean by "adjusting the MF" - banks have always set different MF for different models (and, in some cases, different trim levels), and dealers have always been able to mark up those base rates for extra profit.

Higher residuals are always better, all else being equal. But, nothing is equal - you have to factor in the MF, the discount from sticker, and any lease incentives to see the full picture.

$350/mo? Possible, depending on what trim level you are looking at.

save1982 · July 2017

Hey Michael! Can you provide me with the MF/RES and incentives on a 36/12k Titanium AWD in Nashville TN?

Michaell · July 2017

save1982 said:
Hey Michael! Can you provide me with the MF/RES and incentives on a 36/12k Titanium AWD in Nashville TN?

49% and 1.00%

$2500 lease cash

mjc_487 · July 2017

Michaell said:

mjc_487 said:

Michaell said:

mjc_487 said:

kyfdx said:
$350/mo? Possible, depending on what trim level you are looking at.
AWD Titanium or a CX-5 Grand Touring with a similar MSRP of around $33k

e46_to_f30 · July 2017

Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!

Michaell · July 2017

e46_to_f30 said:
Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!

50% and .25%

$3750 lease cash

Yes, divide APR by 2400 to get the decimal value of the MF

kyfdx · July 2017

e46_to_f30 said:
Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!

0.25% APR = roughly .00011 MF

gemthing · July 2017

Hi! Could I get the MF/RES and incentives for an SE FWD in 22801 please? 36/10 lease. Thank you very much!

Michaell · July 2017

gemthing said:
Hi! Could I get the MF/RES and incentives for an SE FWD in 22801 please? 36/10 lease. Thank you very much!

50% and 1.00%

$2500 lease cash

vlad_ · July 2017

Hi, can I please get the MF/RES and incentives for 36/10.5 lease for Titanium AWD? I live in NC. Do they have any loyalty incentives? Thanks

kyfdx · July 2017

vlad_ said:
Hi, can I please get the MF/RES and incentives for 36/10.5 lease for Titanium AWD? I live in NC. Do they have any loyalty incentives? Thanks

1.00% APR and 50% residual
$2500 lease cash

No info on loyalty

leasehouston · July 2017

Can I have the RV and MF for Escape Titanium 36 months 12k lease for Houston, TX? Also, any lease cash or incentives available in July. Thank you!

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