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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,175
    If it was the 3.0 T 400HP version I could see it, but for the 2.0 I’d have a tough time justifying it.  

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 4,972
    MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    This is more about want than anything else.
    Never have bought anything other than local, so it kind of scares me.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,574

    MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.

    The Sandman :) B)

    MKZ is the Fusion equivalent.

    MKC = Escape
    MKX = Edge

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  • fushigifushigi Chicago suburbsPosts: 1,459
    Horrible naming from Lincoln. I'm not fond of Infiniti naming everything with a Q but at least you can tell the SUVs apart as they're all QX.
    2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen.
    Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price.
    Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote.
    Not off to a great start.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,326

    Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen.
    Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price.
    Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote.
    Not off to a great start.

    I think I got an "eprice" once out of maybe 20 tries; if a dealer doesn't want to give a quote they shouldn't have that stupid option on their site...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 34,055
    you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    I'll probably pursue it a bit longer, but I'm not really interested in playing phone tag.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,315
    I was satisfied with the truecar price request button on their used car side. Got an email with their reduced price plus their fees. So there were no surprises. Well, OK, the dealer I wound up getting my EX35 from TRIED to add extra fees, but I showed them the email from trucar that showed all fees and stated there would be nothing extra, and they relented.

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,326
    stickguy said:

    you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.

    It's not a question of getting used to it; it's out-and-out deceptive. Look, I know dealers don't want to give a quote online are over the phone because 99% of buyers will use shop the quote all over the place- I'm perfectly okay with a dealer's reluctance. Just don't tell me you are going to give me a price when you have absolutely o intention of doing so.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,491
    I had no problem getting quotes from all 3 Acura dealers and my Audi dealer and negotiated entirely over email with all of them. Granted I stated from the beginning I was making a purchase by the end of September so maybe knowing that gave them incentive not to give me the run around

    On the other hand when I was helping my brother lease his Fusion earlier in the year I reached out to the Ford dealer my parents have used for decades asking for a quote and they wouldn't give one via email. I told him we'd just go elsewhere and they gave in.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road DC
  • I just tell them I'm too busy for phone or to come in.  text or email is fine.  if they don't like it move on.... going in is never recommended for getting the best deals.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 34,055
    Depends on the buyer. I believe that is the best way, since you are a real checkbook sitting in front of them.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,081
    stickguy said:

    Depends on the buyer. I believe that is the best way, since you are a real checkbook sitting in front of them.

    A signed statement, will buy today for $XX,XXX may work too, although it didn't get the VW GM to budge that last $300. They almost lost a $30K out the door deal over $300. Almost! The salesman chipped in $300 of his commission to make the rebate bigger and the deal got done. If you've bought a car from the guy before, a signed statement shouldn't be required nor helpful.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,081
    I've noticed if they believe you are a very serious immediate buyer any supposed "rules" on not giving a quote out are ignored.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,175
    I did the last Enclave completely over the phone.  It was great walked into the dealer with just some paperwork and signatures to do.  

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 34,055
    I did the Sonata that way. a few emails after putting price promise request from Edmunds, a couple phone calls, then just showed up to make sure we liked it and said OK, and signed some papers. easy peasy

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    I'm not looking at something new, so maybe that makes a difference.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 34,055
    probably does.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,574

    Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.

    Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 34,055
    I think it is called a ferry. Or do they just go to Connecticut?

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,532
    Michaell said:
    Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
    Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!
    It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it.  NIMBY

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,574
    nyccarguy said:


    Michaell said:

    Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.

    Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!

    It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it.  NIMBY

    Oh yeah - the battle between Robert Moses and Gov. Rockefeller was epic, surrounding that proposal.

    The other one that got away was a bridge system from eastern Long Island to MA. I guess the ferries work well on that route, however.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder. :)
    Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,081

    Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder. :)
    Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.

    I'M also very annoyed at quotes that assume I can't read the MSRP on the sticker.

    No need for a quote if your price is sticker.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    I was looking at a CPO vehicle, not a new one.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    I was wrong about the quote I got the website listing was for 27555, their eprice quote was 27554!
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,715
    Oh definitely go with the eprice!
    That's hilarious.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,861
    @steine13,
    You're a pretty savvy car buyer, so I'll take your advice. :)
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • Looking for a trade in Value and Private Party Value for the following.
    73113 2003 Ford Expedition 184,000 miles 5.4 V8 4WD some scratches Black Color XLT Package. Small Paint Peeling in small spot above the Back Glass. Some Scratches, AT Tires with 60-70% Tread Left. Runs OK Small Hole in the Driver seat edge. AC Works runs fine. Power Equipment All Works. Overall good to fair condition. I've read the Edmunds Appraisal. What Private/Trade in values should I expect?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,315
    Not worth much at all to a dealer. Maybe $500-$750.

    How much private party is anybody's guess. I'm sure someone would be willing to wring whatever life and utility is left in it for $2500 or so.

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • that's about what I expected. Thanks for your reply. Private party it is.
  • cdb2017cdb2017 Posts: 11
    Almost afraid to ask but want to ensure I have reality in mind. The trade: 2016 Mini Cooper Countryman S 4Motion - fully loaded package (winter package for heated seats etc, automatic, rear park sensors, XM, Nav, 19” wheels, etc.), blue exterior, black interior, roof rack, sunroof, 18k miles, maintenance package to 100k. Original list 36k

    The target: 2018 Mini Cooper Countryman S E 4 Motion - fully loaded again grey exterior, black interior. All the options including Nav, XM, etc. - List 45,900

    What kind of difference am I expecting? Initial offer was 44,900 for new and 19,000 for trade which put’s the difference at 25,900 (not including tax and dealer fees).

    I’m in upstate NY as well.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    What are the miles on the 2016?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,315
    edited October 2017
    4motion is VW nomenclature. Mini still uses ALL4, don't they?

    I'm curious: if both are loaded, as you say, why the $10k difference in MSRP? And, more importantly, why trade for the same car?

    anyway, they should be at $21k-$21.5k on yours unless something is wrong with it. These are in the mid 22s right now at auction. And, hell, considering it is a MINI dealer and they'd likely CPO it, they should be willing to kick in $22k.

    Oh, another thing, truecar shows $1500 off MSRP. AND, do you really want to pay so close to MSRP on something that depreciates so harshly??

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,326
    Life is too short to do the same thing twice...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • gapperondutygapperonduty Jersey CityPosts: 2
    Hi,

    Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

    Thanks in advance!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,315

    Hi,

    Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

    Thanks in advance!

    about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • gapperondutygapperonduty Jersey CityPosts: 2
    qbrozen said:

    Hi,

    Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.

    Thanks in advance!

    about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.
    thank you so much for your super quick help - much appreciated!
  • cdb2017cdb2017 Posts: 11
    Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 6,951
    qbrozen said:
    Hi, Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ. Thanks in advance!
    about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.
    Wow, I know the SV doesn’t have leather, but that is crazy cheap. The CVT just isn’t that bad! Bland car, yes, but mine never let me down. 
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,315
    edited October 2017
    cdb2017 said:
    Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
    I saw, and still see, 18k

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?
  • It's the Leather AWD, with towing package, dual sun roofs & nav system
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,574
    doggley said:

    Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?

    doggley said:

    It's the Leather AWD, with towing package, dual sun roofs & nav system

    A few questions to help our experts ....

    1. Color - inside and out?
    2. Location
    3. AWD or FWD
    4. Condition - exterior, interior, tires

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  • woodywwwoodyww Posts: 1,813
    cdb2017 said:

    Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!

    I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?

    I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,574
    woodyww said:

    cdb2017 said:

    Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!

    I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?

    I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....
    I wouldn't say basically - there is a big difference because of the plug-in hybrid technology.

    And, the new Countryman is much closer to the BMW X1 than in the past, so the ride and handling are much better.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    How much EV range with the plug-in?
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