MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.
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MKZ, isn't that a Ford Escape underneath or an Edge? We have some at work and are a pleasure to drive though a bit too big for my everyday drive. Nice interior and wonderful driver but just too big for my needs.
Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen. Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price. Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote. Not off to a great start.
Decided to click on the 'eprice' button to see what would happen. Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price. Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote. Not off to a great start.
I think I got an "eprice" once out of maybe 20 tries; if a dealer doesn't want to give a quote they shouldn't have that stupid option on their site...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.
I was satisfied with the truecar price request button on their used car side. Got an email with their reduced price plus their fees. So there were no surprises. Well, OK, the dealer I wound up getting my EX35 from TRIED to add extra fees, but I showed them the email from trucar that showed all fees and stated there would be nothing extra, and they relented.
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you get used to that. Most Eprice buttons seem to work that way. though a couple actually do pop up a price. I prefer sites where they just list it right on the page.
It's not a question of getting used to it; it's out-and-out deceptive. Look, I know dealers don't want to give a quote online are over the phone because 99% of buyers will use shop the quote all over the place- I'm perfectly okay with a dealer's reluctance. Just don't tell me you are going to give me a price when you have absolutely o intention of doing so.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I had no problem getting quotes from all 3 Acura dealers and my Audi dealer and negotiated entirely over email with all of them. Granted I stated from the beginning I was making a purchase by the end of September so maybe knowing that gave them incentive not to give me the run around
On the other hand when I was helping my brother lease his Fusion earlier in the year I reached out to the Ford dealer my parents have used for decades asking for a quote and they wouldn't give one via email. I told him we'd just go elsewhere and they gave in.
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I just tell them I'm too busy for phone or to come in. text or email is fine. if they don't like it move on.... going in is never recommended for getting the best deals.
Depends on the buyer. I believe that is the best way, since you are a real checkbook sitting in front of them.
A signed statement, will buy today for $XX,XXX may work too, although it didn't get the VW GM to budge that last $300. They almost lost a $30K out the door deal over $300. Almost! The salesman chipped in $300 of his commission to make the rebate bigger and the deal got done. If you've bought a car from the guy before, a signed statement shouldn't be required nor helpful.
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Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
I did the Sonata that way. a few emails after putting price promise request from Edmunds, a couple phone calls, then just showed up to make sure we liked it and said OK, and signed some papers. easy peasy
Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!
Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!
It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it. NIMBY
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Found another MKZ and am requesting a quote. 2016 with 12k miles. Expecting the same thing as the first quote I asked for from another dealer. Doesn't hurt to ask. This dealer is a lot closer. Don't have to drive onto Long Island.
Too bad they never built the Oyster Bay - Rye bridge!
It's an excellent idea, but tremendous opposition to it. NIMBY
Oh yeah - the battle between Robert Moses and Gov. Rockefeller was epic, surrounding that proposal.
The other one that got away was a bridge system from eastern Long Island to MA. I guess the ferries work well on that route, however.
Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder. Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.
Turns out I did get a quote from the dealer on Long Island. It was in my Spam folder. Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.
I'M also very annoyed at quotes that assume I can't read the MSRP on the sticker.
No need for a quote if your price is sticker.
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Looking for a trade in Value and Private Party Value for the following. 73113 2003 Ford Expedition 184,000 miles 5.4 V8 4WD some scratches Black Color XLT Package. Small Paint Peeling in small spot above the Back Glass. Some Scratches, AT Tires with 60-70% Tread Left. Runs OK Small Hole in the Driver seat edge. AC Works runs fine. Power Equipment All Works. Overall good to fair condition. I've read the Edmunds Appraisal. What Private/Trade in values should I expect?
Almost afraid to ask but want to ensure I have reality in mind. The trade: 2016 Mini Cooper Countryman S 4Motion - fully loaded package (winter package for heated seats etc, automatic, rear park sensors, XM, Nav, 19” wheels, etc.), blue exterior, black interior, roof rack, sunroof, 18k miles, maintenance package to 100k. Original list 36k
The target: 2018 Mini Cooper Countryman S E 4 Motion - fully loaded again grey exterior, black interior. All the options including Nav, XM, etc. - List 45,900
What kind of difference am I expecting? Initial offer was 44,900 for new and 19,000 for trade which put’s the difference at 25,900 (not including tax and dealer fees).
4motion is VW nomenclature. Mini still uses ALL4, don't they?
I'm curious: if both are loaded, as you say, why the $10k difference in MSRP? And, more importantly, why trade for the same car?
anyway, they should be at $21k-$21.5k on yours unless something is wrong with it. These are in the mid 22s right now at auction. And, hell, considering it is a MINI dealer and they'd likely CPO it, they should be willing to kick in $22k.
Oh, another thing, truecar shows $1500 off MSRP. AND, do you really want to pay so close to MSRP on something that depreciates so harshly??
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Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.
Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.
Thanks in advance!
about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.
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Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.
Thanks in advance!
about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.
thank you so much for your super quick help - much appreciated!
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
Hi,
Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.
Thanks in advance!
about $14k. Maybe a couple hundred more.
Wow, I know the SV doesn’t have leather, but that is crazy cheap. The CVT just isn’t that bad! Bland car, yes, but mine never let me down.
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
I saw, and still see, 18k
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Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?
Hello. I'm thinking about taking the purchase option on my 2014 Buick Enclave that I've been leasing. I've already paid $25950 & the purchase option is $26407 or $28751 including taxes & the $350 purchase fee. I was the original/only driver. It has 17751 miles on it and is in very good condition. Thoughts on buying vs returning?
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?
I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....
Re: Cooper Countryman trade above - yes - ALL4 is correct. I'll claim I was tired. Major difference between a 2016 S and a 2018 Countryman S E - is the E - means it's a plug in hybrid on the new body (new body style for the Countryman started in 2017). It's a slightly bigger car. In addition the 2016 Countryman has 18k miles on it - I swear I typed it in but I don't see it in my post. Looks like right now the 21-22 range is my target (and some money off the new one as well). Thanks!
I'm curious: You want to pay roughly double the price (of your trade-in), for basically the same car that's only 2 years newer? And yours has only 18K miles?
I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....
I wouldn't say basically - there is a big difference because of the plug-in hybrid technology.
And, the new Countryman is much closer to the BMW X1 than in the past, so the ride and handling are much better.
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Never have bought anything other than local, so it kind of scares me.
MKC = Escape
MKX = Edge
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Got an email reply and a voicemail(didn't listen to it yet), but no price.
Replied to the email saying I was expecting a quote.
Not off to a great start.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
On the other hand when I was helping my brother lease his Fusion earlier in the year I reached out to the Ford dealer my parents have used for decades asking for a quote and they wouldn't give one via email. I told him we'd just go elsewhere and they gave in.
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Oh yeah - the battle between Robert Moses and Gov. Rockefeller was epic, surrounding that proposal.
The other one that got away was a bridge system from eastern Long Island to MA. I guess the ferries work well on that route, however.
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Their quote was $4 more than what was listed on their website. so I think I'm done with them.
No need for a quote if your price is sticker.
That's hilarious.
You're a pretty savvy car buyer, so I'll take your advice.
73113 2003 Ford Expedition 184,000 miles 5.4 V8 4WD some scratches Black Color XLT Package. Small Paint Peeling in small spot above the Back Glass. Some Scratches, AT Tires with 60-70% Tread Left. Runs OK Small Hole in the Driver seat edge. AC Works runs fine. Power Equipment All Works. Overall good to fair condition. I've read the Edmunds Appraisal. What Private/Trade in values should I expect?
How much private party is anybody's guess. I'm sure someone would be willing to wring whatever life and utility is left in it for $2500 or so.
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The target: 2018 Mini Cooper Countryman S E 4 Motion - fully loaded again grey exterior, black interior. All the options including Nav, XM, etc. - List 45,900
What kind of difference am I expecting? Initial offer was 44,900 for new and 19,000 for trade which put’s the difference at 25,900 (not including tax and dealer fees).
I’m in upstate NY as well.
I'm curious: if both are loaded, as you say, why the $10k difference in MSRP? And, more importantly, why trade for the same car?
anyway, they should be at $21k-$21.5k on yours unless something is wrong with it. These are in the mid 22s right now at auction. And, hell, considering it is a MINI dealer and they'd likely CPO it, they should be willing to kick in $22k.
Oh, another thing, truecar shows $1500 off MSRP. AND, do you really want to pay so close to MSRP on something that depreciates so harshly??
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Can you help with a trade-in value for a black Nissan Murano 2014 SV AWD 38000 miles (bose, navigation, liftgate). I assume "average condition" is the standard but the car is in great condition. Location is NJ.
Thanks in advance!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
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1. Color - inside and out?
2. Location
3. AWD or FWD
4. Condition - exterior, interior, tires
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I don't get it--paying $20K-ish for a slight upgrade; when yours is still under warranty even. But then it's not my money.....
And, the new Countryman is much closer to the BMW X1 than in the past, so the ride and handling are much better.
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