Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

tbirdmarco · October 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC3KKPh0-hw

tbirdmarco · October 2017

look what I found! must be on sail ahead of Wensday! also have an frend who has an frend in upstate new York who was able to see the new Acords at the dealer yesterday!

iluvmysephia1 · October 2017

Marco - hello! I have moved to Lake Chelan, WA, an hour north of Wenatchee, WA. I work at a hospital in Wenatchee. So I'm getting used to a new job and my wife and I are getting used to a new place to live.

I'll tell you what, this place has the best honey crisp apples I've ever tasted!

tjc78 · October 2017

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

@tjc78 man o man hope that is the end of the nails getting in to your guys tires! how has the work on the house bin going!

I hope so too... we are down the very end. Painters this week, tile and then all the subs come back to install the fixtures, vanities etc. should finish up late next week with carpet in the bedrooms and final cleanup of my yard etc.

graphicguy · October 2017

iluvmysephia1 said:
Marco - hello! I have moved to Lake Chelan, WA, an hour north of Wenatchee, WA. I work at a hospital in Wenatchee. So I'm getting used to a new job and my wife and I are getting used to a new place to live.

I'll tell you what, this place has the best honey crisp apples I've ever tasted!

Honey Crisp Apples are my FAVORITE!

stickguy · October 2017

Inching closer. Have an appointment for tomorrow evening to pick out a car and nail down a deal. Got the pricing already (discounts), but they have locate a car so final price depends on accessories lathered on a particular unit. Then just have to wait a few days for it to arrive.

I am really tired of shopping though. At least this deal is all via internet, email and phone. Assuming no gotchas at the dealer (not expected) in which case I just leave and go to the next one!

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@iluvmysephia1 congrads to you and your wife on the move and living in an new City! also nice congrads on the new job! good to no when it comes to the apples! eventually now you will get the car you want! to keep it on topick! lollollol

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@tjc78 nice nice so glad to hear things are rapping up and will be done bye the end of this munth!

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@stickguy this is all grate news! for you! but will mis your car looking and test driving postings! are you going with the dealer in PA that you did use back in 2015 when you got the current car you have now? or you using the local dealer that you whent to yesterday and an few other times to look at cars at?

stickguy · October 2017

different dealer. also over in PA but got through Trucar, and significantly cheaper.

iluvmysephia1 · October 2017

stick - is Truecar a pretty good car-buying route ta go? Ya happy with it?

stickguy · October 2017

well, I have not gone in yet to finalize, but so far, the price was strong and the process was easy. Actually, next best was AAA if you are a member, They were not far off.

nyccarguy · October 2017

Shuttling my kids in between hockey games over the weekend. 2 games for the Pee Wee (Son #1) & 2 games for the Mite (Son #2), we saw a drop dead gorgeous Saphire Blue Metallic 2018 911 C2 Coupe. As we passed the guy who was sitting at a ligt waiting to make a turn, I honked & gave him a thumbs up. My (almost) 6 year old daughter says to me: "Daddy. Do you like that Porsche a lot?" I told her that I love the 911 and it is one of the most beautiful, amazing performing cars ever produced.

She then tells me: "If you really want one, then you should get it. But in Black. It would look sick."

stickguy · October 2017

you are learning a valuable life lesson Bradd. Your little princess, will be amazingly good at spending your money as she grows up!

Michaell · October 2017

@nyccarguy - oh, dear. "It would look sick".

Out of the mouths of babes....

Sandman6472 · October 2017

Wedding was beautiful, my daughter-in-law had converted last year because she wanted to, so a nice Jewish wedding...we were very pleased. Got a bit cold for my wife, about 46 but windy. Still, we had a blast! My oldest's boyfriend turned to me at dinner and asked if he could marry her! Looks like we're having another wedding, sometime in 2018!! Been a crazy few days!!
The Hertz is within walking distance of our hotel and stopped by yesterday just to confirm things. Almost 7 a m now, checking out at 11 and then go get the vehicle. Swing back over to get our luggage and Indianapolis...here we come! Then onto Nashville, Macon and then home by the end of the weekend. Then, back to work as I need to make some $ after what I charged since Thursday!
Saw the kids off this morning and now going to relax. Will miss Chicago but think we'll be back as the kids are going to live here. Used Lyft for everything since leaving last week and it's so simple and seamless! Once my kid fixed my iPhone settings, worked like a charm, very impressive. The Escalade L was the best though, great way to arrive at a wedding!!
Funny, the Lyft driver a few minutes ago was in a new Elantra but a gray color. Very impressive looking!!!

The Sandman

(Staying in the River North area here and we are in the middle of everything it seems. Did a lot of walking and this is a place I could live because a car just isn't needed. Think the cost of living would be a bit prohibitive though. Still, think we'll be back!)

stickguy · October 2017

glad it went well Sandy. But I can guarantee 1 Chicago winter would change your mind about that. Maybe snowbird it!

Sandman6472 · October 2017

Just looking at the Golf SEL for 2018 online and hate to say it but I like it! They tweaked the exterior just like I would do with chrome pieces on the fascia in the right places and not overdone.The new dash is so much better than mine! Probably has all the safety nannies my wife would love plus Apple CarPlay, who could ask for more! Seriously, have never gotten the same exact model before but the SEL pushes all the right buttons for me and I know it fits on my side of the garage! Partial towards that grey color but not sure I could do a black interior in Florida.
They've tweaked this vehicle just enough that it might be worth it to get another one in a couple of years. The mid cycle refresh could really be the sweet spot for me actually as I wouldn't have to go CPO if I re-up with another VW. As much as I do like the 328i, and I do, not sure I could give up the versatility of a hatchback.
Time will tell!

The Sandman

nyccarguy · October 2017

@sandman_6472 Mazel-Tov to you and your family! I'm sure the wedding was beautiful!

Michaell · October 2017

A look into future VW products

stickguy · October 2017

Was playing with some numbers in my head. Need to verify in a spreadsheet, but pretty sure that with the deal I am working, it could be cheaper to buy and resell after 3 years than it would be to lease. Especially considering fees. Not that I am planning ahead or anything!

Still possible I also transfer to the princess if I get antsy sooner than that

corvette · October 2017

The Element lives! I guess they dodged a bullet. Diagnosis: bad rocker arm oil pressure switch. Its failure will cause the engine to go in to limp mode. Total: $336.04.

andres3 · October 2017

stickguy said:
Thanks B. Yeah, it is kind of a natural progression. Way more stuff on it. Though IIRC the current Jetta Sport probably has more features (a Jetta SE is equipped similarly to the Elantra).

I just got my worst tank of fuel economy ever from the Optima 1.6T. 26.4 according to the computer, and it shouldn't have been any different from my usual 28-29 MPG, certainly not less than 27 MPG. It has been fairly consistent, so this appears to be something I need to watch like a hawk. I was already borderline disappointed in the fuel economy, especially considering the high stated EPA numbers, but at 26 I'm upset about it.

Tire pressures are good; just got an oil change last week, maybe they put in the wrong oil? Something is off, as I said, it was super consistent at 28 MPG +/- 1 MPG deviation.

jpp75 · October 2017

@sandman_6472 Glad you had a great weekend in Chicago, I used to live in River North and loved it.

Also congrats on your daughter, looks like a big 2018 for you!

benjaminh · October 2017

stickguy said:
Was playing with some numbers in my head. Need to verify in a spreadsheet, but pretty sure that with the deal I am working, it could be cheaper to buy and resell after 3 years than it would be to lease. Especially considering fees. Not that I am planning ahead or anything!

Still possible I also transfer to the princess if I get antsy sooner than that

Are you still considering the 2018 Accord, or is that off the table? If so, some costs to maybe consider vs. the 2018 Elantra Sport are what I think of as "transaction costs"—sales tax, title, etc. If you're buying the Elantra with the thought that you already might get rid of it, maybe it's not quite the right car for you? Or maybe it's just that you would like a new car every few years. But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years. If that's the case, then, in the long run, it might be worth the money to buy up to the next level of car and potentially be satisfied with your car for a longer amount of time. In terms of your daughter, it's nice that you're thinking of her, and since I have a daughter myself I can understand this, but as others have said I wonder if it's time for her to make her own car purchases....? All just my 2 cents, of course. As I know you will, feel free to ignore....

breld · October 2017

benjaminh said:
But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years.

6 years? Huh?

tifighter · October 2017

breld said:

benjaminh said:
But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years.
6 years? Huh?

Yeah right. He must of meant trying all of the Accords, a sedan, a coupe, a hybrid, etc. Then it makes sense...

28firefighter · October 2017

Wait, people keep cars longer than 6 weeks?

ab348 · October 2017

28firefighter said:
Wait, people keep cars longer than 6 weeks?

We can't all be @breld , sadly.

roadburner · October 2017

breld said:

benjaminh said:
But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years.
6 years? Huh?

How is the Type R doing?

js06gv · October 2017

roadburner said:

breld said:

benjaminh said:
But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years.
6 years? Huh?
How is the Type R doing?

My guess is it's been sold!

andres3 · October 2017

js06gv said:

roadburner said:

breld said:

benjaminh said:
But there's a chance, just maybe, that if you buy a 2018 Accord, a "next generation" vehicle, that you'll be ok with owning for maybe as much as 6 years.
6 years? Huh?
How is the Type R doing?
My guess is it's been sold!

Are we taking bets? What's the over/under?

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@stickguy nice so using trew car and nother dealer in pa nice nice so do you have the car picked out and will you have it bye the weekend? you might still be at the dealer now!

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@sandman_6472 glad the wedding whent whell and your time away was nice! have an nice rest of your trip going to Nashvil and whair ever elce you all will be stopping at! what car did they give you the Rental place?

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@sandman_6472 and nice next year an nother wedding your son!

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@corvette nice nice so glad to hear that about your dads car!

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@nyccarguy your daughter think is growing up to be an car girl! would stick with the color you saw or red or sum other interesting color no black silver gray white for me!

Michaell · October 2017

Sorry, the Type R is still in @breld's fleet.

I know because I had a ride in it this past weekend to the Denver Cars & Coffee meetup, which is held in the town where I live.

He offered to let me drive it, but I declined. The Type R was getting as much attention as some of the display cars that were there.

Question for the group - there was an NSX for sale there - 127,000 miles for $54K. Only slightly modded. Fair price or no?

tbirdmarco · October 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVJQ7hXNvRI

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@Michaell would have to say way to much money for that NSX

Sandman6472 · October 2017

Thanks all. We're just north of Louisville KY right now on our way to Nashville. Saw a battlefield near Lafayette Indiana today, a lady at Wendy's told us we must go. Tippecanoe monument, very very cool! In a Hampton Inn now, ate at Bob Evans, we don't have them and wife wanted to go. Onto Nashville tomorrow for two days. Then sleep in Macon and home Saturday night.
Oldest's birthday Sunday so they will help me return rental at my office and come up to our house for cake. And talk weddings as we have no clue what they r thinking.
Hertz fave me a 2017 Nissan Versa sedan with just over 11,400 on it. Clean and drives nicely, economical too. Wife will drive after Macon and wanted small.

The Sandman

tbirdmarco · October 2017

@sandman_6472 you are welcome! sounds like you are all having sutch an nice time! nice little car you have for your road trip! very good on gas!

stickguy · October 2017

Benjamin, always appreciate your input. Yes, I am not going to be getting an Accord now. In the future, who knows. As to the daughter, I have supplied my last car to her. When July comes and she needs a new one, depending on my mood, and what she wants, will consider letting her buy it off of me. But it would go into her name. Assuming it makes sense with warranty, etc.

Right now though, I wanted something a bit smaller, on the fun side, and cheaper to get it paid off sooner and put money elsewhere. Part of that plan is, once I pay this one off, we will upgrade the wife's car to something fancier (probably the next RDX if they ever come out with it!)

stickguy · October 2017

though of course, if I do stop and see one this week, until the new one rolls over the curb, it isn't official! But this week is kinda nuts already. Somehow, the week before I have a new client going live (enough stress all by itself to take me down) I decided to buy a car, and got sucked into getting a 2nd foster dog tomorrow (to go along with the one that we have had for the last 2 weeks!) I guess it will all keep me young, if it doesn't kill me off.

stickguy · October 2017

So, some details. After much looking and discussion with the wife, decided to stay to a real budget. and both just wanted to go new. And would not go back to a stick shift at this point. Which all of course narrowed down the field. So after lots of looking, kept coming back to the Elantra sport. And debated color, but finally settled on the white one (red being the other choice). Narrowed down further after trying Apple CarPlay (loved it!) to prove I don't need built in Navi for an extra $2,000 (though the premium stereo is probably nice, the base one sounded fine to me).

Now that I had a target, solicited a few dealers that I preferred, and got some respectable to not that good offers. So fired up Trucar Sunday, and sent request to them (and AAA buying service apparently). some quick emails and a few phone calls Monday, and had a few really good prices. One in particular, at a different dealer in Philly than I dealt with before. About $700-$1000 cheaper than the other guy. And ~$1,400 cheaper than the local Jersey guy. I really did not feel like haggling back and forth trying to get other places to match (not expecting it to happen anyway), so, went in tonight to meet with sales manager. Experience was a bit odd (definitely a disconnect between the efficient Internet department, and the sales floor). But, after some back and forth, a deal that basically matched what the internet guy had proposed was on the desk. Different accessories (car had to be located and brought in so a little higher I think for that) so best I can figure, ended up being about $75 more than I had scratched out. But the one they found had the exact accessories I wanted on it, so all is well.

to be continued...

stickguy · October 2017

so finally got details ironed out, and approved for HMFC financing (big shock there, since I just finished paying them every month!) Car should arrive by the weekend, though I am in no hurry (dealer trade from about 30 miles away). Still have 2 weeks left on the Sonata, so will hang onto it (daughter is flying home to visit the weekend of the 27th and will need a car anyway). Plus I already paid, might as well use it!

Price was low enough, planning to put a modest amount down (about 15%) and finance the rest with Hyundai over 60 months (intending to pay off in 2, 3 years max). Really did not want to lease again this time, and the payment will only be about $60 more than a lease.

Price? MSRP was $24,325. Paid $20,099. So a total of $4,226 off sticker (no dealer add ons, just straight Maroney). $2,750 in rebates and finance incentive. And $1,476 dealer discount (well behind Invoice on a 2018. No clue how or why, but I am not arguing). Even with tax and tags (I hate NJ!) and $138 dealer doc fee (much lower in PA), total OTD is only about $22,100.

Didn't quite get my goal of below $20K, but we are getting the homelink mirror which is a nice bonus (no need to find the clickers).

So, assuming no hijinks when I get there to pick it up (probably Saturday morning), I should have it home this weekend, and will just return Sonata in a couple of weeks (probably when I have to go back to pick up the plates). If they do try to pull a fast one, I just leave and get my CC deposit back.

Actually pretty excited to be getting this. and a ton of car for the money. Could easily be a nice affordable LT keeper, with the next car splurge going to a family truckster for the wife, or a toy of some kind for me!

28firefighter · October 2017

Sounds like a reasonable choice, @stickguy. Hope it goes smoothly!

benjaminh · October 2017

Congrats! Sounds like a great deal on an impressive car.+++

stickguy · October 2017

thanks. So do I. Nice having the fall back of a car outside I have to take home anyway, so can pull the plug and walk at any time! It is actually a really nice car too, and IMO a good value. 5 years of BtoB warranty is not bad either.

breld · October 2017

Congrats @stickguy! I may have missed it - what color did you end up going with?

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