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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    usmc206 said:

    Looking for MF for 2018 GLS 450 and
    36/month lease residual
    48/ month lease residual

    Thank you!

    usmc206 said:

    And for this

    Looking for MF for 2018 GLS 63 and
    36/month lease residual
    48/ month lease residual

    usmc206 said:

    oops, 12K miles a year. Thanks.

    450: .00125 MF and 57%/49% residual for 36/48 months
    63: STD MF and 55%/49% residual

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    jonjon11jonjon11 Member Posts: 49
    Hi - on a 450, could I get the MF and Residual for minimum mile lease (7500?) on 24 and 36? thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    jonjon11 said:

    Hi - on a 450, could I get the MF and Residual for minimum mile lease (7500?) on 24 and 36? thanks!

    63% or 59% and .00125

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    hercules00hercules00 Member Posts: 134
    edited October 2017
    fynride1 said:

    Can someone explain the benefits of MB one pay? I guess mainly I'm curious to know if I can eliminate the MF portion of the calculation since you are paying the entire lease up front? Thanks!

    Never pay the entire lease upfront. If you total the car at any point, all the insurance recovery will accrue to the leasing company (which technically 'owns' the car) and you will not see a penny. You will be out of pocket for the entire lease amount that you have paid out.

    Eg, Say you paid $36k depreciation upfront on lease for a $80k car (implying $44k residual). Assuming 36mo lease, your monthly depreciation payment would have been $1k.

    Car gets totaled 12 months in, insurance company refunds $60k.

    If you had been on a monthly lease program, you would have to pay the leasing company an additional $8k (car depreciated by $20k ($80k - $60k) but you would have only paid $1k x 12 = $12k so far). So lease would end and it would cost you $20k total - the actual depreciation on the car.

    But if you paid the entire depreciation amount upfront, you would get back $0 and lose the entire $36k.

    Given how low lease factors are to begin with, the discounted financing cost for OnePay is totally not worth the risk.
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    hercules00hercules00 Member Posts: 134
    Michael

    If you would be kind enough the share the LF and Resid for the following pls (10k/yr for all). This is for NJ.

    2018 GLS 450 and 550 - 36mo and 48mo

    Thanks in advance.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115

    fynride1 said:

    Can someone explain the benefits of MB one pay? I guess mainly I'm curious to know if I can eliminate the MF portion of the calculation since you are paying the entire lease up front? Thanks!

    Never pay the entire lease upfront. If you total the car at any point, all the insurance recovery will accrue to the leasing company (which technically 'owns' the car) and you will not see a penny. You will be out of pocket for the entire lease amount that you have paid out.

    Eg, Say you paid $36k depreciation upfront on lease for a $80k car (implying $44k residual). Assuming 36mo lease, your monthly depreciation payment would have been $1k.

    Car gets totaled 12 months in, insurance company refunds $60k.

    If you had been on a monthly lease program, you would have to pay the leasing company an additional $8k (car depreciated by $20k ($80k - $60k) but you would have only paid $1k x 12 = $12k so far). So lease would end and it would cost you $20k total - the actual depreciation on the car.

    But if you paid the entire depreciation amount upfront, you would get back $0 and lose the entire $36k.

    Given how low lease factors are to begin with, the discounted financing cost for OnePay is totally not worth the risk.
    Single Pay leases don't work that way, fortunately.
    They are treated as though the payments are being paid monthly, in event of an involuntary termination.

    Your advice holds true for large upfront CAP reductions, however.

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115

    Michael

    If you would be kind enough the share the LF and Resid for the following pls (10k/yr for all). This is for NJ.

    2018 GLS 450 and 550 - 36mo and 48mo

    Thanks in advance.

    450: .00125 MF and 58%/50% residual.
    550: Standard MF and 55%/46% residual

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    hercules00hercules00 Member Posts: 134
    kyfdx said:


    Single Pay leases don't work that way, fortunately.
    They are treated as though the payments are being paid monthly, in event of an involuntary termination.

    Your advice holds true for large upfront CAP reductions, however.

    My apologies. I assumed it was the same as reducing upfront cap so that no monthly payments are due. There is a pretty decent finance charge reduction for that.

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115

    kyfdx said:


    Single Pay leases don't work that way, fortunately.
    They are treated as though the payments are being paid monthly, in event of an involuntary termination.

    Your advice holds true for large upfront CAP reductions, however.

    My apologies. I assumed it was the same as reducing upfront cap so that no monthly payments are due. There is a pretty decent finance charge reduction for that.

    No sweat! That's why we are here.

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    jplino1jplino1 Member Posts: 95
    Hey guys with looking for numbers on the GLS 450 36/15 
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    jplino1 said:

    Hey guys with looking for numbers on the GLS 450 36/15 

    .00125 MF and 55% residual

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    metahimetahi Member Posts: 42
    could I please have MF and residual for 450 and 550 36/12 in boston area?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    metahi said:

    could I please have MF and residual for 450 and 550 36/12 in boston area?

    .00125 MF and 57% residual
    .00178 MF and 54% residual

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    mbgls450mbgls450 Member Posts: 5
    Hi:

    Can you provide me with the MF and residual in CT on a 2018 GLS 450 for 42 months / 10K miles per year, and also 36 months / 10K miles per year? Also, are you aware if Mercedes is giving any holiday discount cash, etc towards leases currently?

    Thank you!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    mbgls450 said:

    Hi:

    Can you provide me with the MF and residual in CT on a 2018 GLS 450 for 42 months / 10K miles per year, and also 36 months / 10K miles per year? Also, are you aware if Mercedes is giving any holiday discount cash, etc towards leases currently?

    Thank you!

    .00125 and 54% / 58%

    No MB incentive information

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    socalqbnsocalqbn Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2017
    18 GLS 450 Looking for MF and RV for 36/18 36/15 42/18 42/15 in California
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    socalqbn said:

    18 GLS 450 Looking for MF and RV for 36/18 36/15 42/18 42/15 in California

    .00125 MF and 55%/51% residual for 36/42 months, 15K/yr
    15K is the highest allowance we have info for. Ask the dealer how they handle the extra 3K mi/yr.

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    5hlinmd5hlinmd Member Posts: 11
    edited November 2017
    I am looking for MF and RV info for the GLS 550 and 63AMG for Virginia. 36 month. 10K miles. Thank you. Also, do you know if Mercedes increases the residual value for prepaid maintenance? My last lease was with Audi and they upped the residual by 1% if you got Audicare with your lease. Thanks again.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    5hlinmd said:

    I am looking for MF and RV info for the GLS 550 and 63AMG for Virginia. 36 month. 10K miles. Thank you. Also, do you know if Mercedes increases the residual value for prepaid maintenance? My last lease was with Audi and they upped the residual by 1% if you got Audicare with your lease. Thanks again.

    550 - .00178 and 55%
    63AMG - standard MF and 56%

    No bump in residual for prepaid maintenance

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    5hlinmd said:

    I am looking for MF and RV info for the GLS 550 and 63AMG for Virginia. 36 month. 10K miles. Thank you. Also, do you know if Mercedes increases the residual value for prepaid maintenance? My last lease was with Audi and they upped the residual by 1% if you got Audicare with your lease. Thanks again.

    We've heard anecdotal evidence of Mercedes dealers adding the maintenance cost to the MSRP, effectively residualizing it. Which gives a similar benefit.

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    5hlinmd5hlinmd Member Posts: 11
    Thanks so much!
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    cem94heelcem94heel Member Posts: 3
    MF/RV on 550, 36/10, Charlotte, NC.  Any year end incentives?  Thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    cem94heel said:

    MF/RV on 550, 36/10, Charlotte, NC.  Any year end incentives?  Thanks!

    .00178 and 55%

    No incentive information

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    jplino1jplino1 Member Posts: 95
    GLS 450 36/15 for December? Thanks
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    jplino1 said:

    GLS 450 36/15 for December? Thanks

    .00125 MF and 55% residual

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    jplino1jplino1 Member Posts: 95
    Thank you @kyfdx! I’m curious if this was the same trend last year with the final couple months staying the same?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    jplino1 said:

    Thank you @kyfdx! I’m curious if this was the same trend last year with the final couple months staying the same?

    We don't keep historical information; I'm sure you can review the 2017 thread for the same time period to check yourself.

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    bchhabrabchhabra Member Posts: 1
    Hello, Need help asking whats a fair price to pay ( finance ) for a GLS 450. Is this the right forum?

    I am getting one with MSRP 82450 for about 7K ( 8.5%) off in California. Is this good enough or is there some more wiggle room?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    bchhabra said:

    Hello, Need help asking whats a fair price to pay ( finance ) for a GLS 450. Is this the right forum?

    I am getting one with MSRP 82450 for about 7K ( 8.5%) off in California. Is this good enough or is there some more wiggle room?

    The moderators do not track pricing - you might want to read back through the last page or two of posts to see if you can find any data points.

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    drewpark21drewpark21 Member Posts: 42
    Hi!

    Researching the 2018 GLS 450 and 550. What is the MF and residual for 15K, 36 months for the Northwest?

    Thank you!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886

    Hi!

    Researching the 2018 GLS 450 and 550. What is the MF and residual for 15K, 36 months for the Northwest?

    Thank you!

    450 - 55% and .00122
    550 - 52% and .00178

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    leaseterms2017leaseterms2017 Member Posts: 19
    I negotiated a 2018 GLS 450, $86,725 list price to these terms below- decent offer?

    Sale Price $79,000
    36 Months, 10K miles a year
    $1175 Monthly Payment
    Money at Signing: Only the First Payment- $1175
    Inclusive of Virginia Sales Tax (4%) and all Fees
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886

    I negotiated a 2018 GLS 450, $86,725 list price to these terms below- decent offer?

    Sale Price $79,000
    36 Months, 10K miles a year
    $1175 Monthly Payment
    Money at Signing: Only the First Payment- $1175
    Inclusive of Virginia Sales Tax (4%) and all Fees

    What is the adjusted cap cost, if the taxes and fees are being rolled in?

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    leaseterms2017leaseterms2017 Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2017
    @Michaell
    I believe the adjusted cost is roughly 45K, 57% of the 79K price. Does that sound right?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886

    @Michaell
    I believe the adjusted cost is roughly 45K, 57% of the 79K price. Does that sound right?

    No, the adjusted cap cost would be the selling price plus any taxes or fees you are not paying up front.

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    leaseterms2017leaseterms2017 Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2017
    @Michaell
    so the selling price is 79K, taxes are $3160, $995 acquisition fee, $215 tags/title.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886

    I negotiated a 2018 GLS 450, $86,725 list price to these terms below- decent offer?

    Sale Price $79,000
    36 Months, 10K miles a year
    $1175 Monthly Payment
    Money at Signing: Only the First Payment- $1175
    Inclusive of Virginia Sales Tax (4%) and all Fees

    @Michaell
    so the selling price is 79K, taxes are $3160, $995 acquisition fee, $215 tags/title.

    .00122 and 58%

    Using $83,370 as the adjusted cap, I get $1082/mo

    $93 x 36 = $3348 to account for in the dealer quote. Ask them what adjusted cap they used to get their $1175/mo payment quote

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    fineman2fineman2 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2017
    Can I have the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 in NJ for 36/39/42 months with 10k/year miles. Also, does the residual go up by 1% if I prepay the maintenance. Thanks.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    fineman2 said:

    Can I have the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 in NJ for 36/39/42 months with 10k/year miles. Also, does the residual go up by 1% if I prepay the maintenance. Thanks.

    .00122 and 57% (36/12) or 53% (42/12)

    No published 39 month residuals.

    MB does not bump the MF if the maintenance is prepaid (so far as we know, only Audi does that)

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    bongjamesbongjames Member Posts: 10
    2018 GLS 63, 36/12k, Socal. Whats STD MF?

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    bongjames said:

    2018 GLS 63, 36/12k, Socal. Whats STD MF?

    Thanks

    We don't know the standard money factor... but, it's usually in the .00200-.00230 range.
    55% residual

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    fineman2fineman2 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2017
    Michaell said:

    fineman2 said:

    Can I have the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 in NJ for 36/39/42 months with 10k/year miles. Also, does the residual go up by 1% if I prepay the maintenance. Thanks.

    .00122 and 57% (36/12) or 53% (42/12)

    No published 39 month residuals.

    MB does not bump the MF if the maintenance is prepaid (so far as we know, only Audi does that)
    can I also get the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 for 48 months for 10/12k miles in NJ. Also, i know that in a standard lease, all cap cost reduction is lost if the car is lost/stolen. Is that also true for a single payment lease when the entire lease payments are paid upfront and is there any additional benefit of single payment lease? I have a trade in appraised by dealer for 15k. If i use this money towards the lease, i save 1k in NJ sales tax but then its a risk if car is lost/stolen. I am not looking to reduce my monthly payment, just trying to see if there is a way to save this 1k in sales tax adjustment. My ins. company does offer gap ins. for $45/year but i don't know if its applicable in my case (MB will have its own gap ins). Any other way to get paid for my trade in worth if car is lost/stolen? If not, i will ask dealer to cut me $15k check separately. Thanks
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    fineman2 said:

    Michaell said:

    fineman2 said:

    Can I have the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 in NJ for 36/39/42 months with 10k/year miles. Also, does the residual go up by 1% if I prepay the maintenance. Thanks.

    .00122 and 57% (36/12) or 53% (42/12)

    No published 39 month residuals.

    MB does not bump the MF if the maintenance is prepaid (so far as we know, only Audi does that)
    can I also get the MF and residual for 2018 GLS 450 for 48 months for 10/12k miles in NJ. Also, i know that in a standard lease, all cap cost reduction is lost if the car is lost/stolen. Is that also true for a single payment lease when the entire lease payments are paid upfront and is there any additional benefit of single payment lease? I have a trade in appraised by dealer for 15k. If i use this money towards the lease, i save 1k in NJ sales tax but then its a risk if car is lost/stolen. I am not looking to reduce my monthly payment, just trying to see if there is a way to save this 1k in sales tax adjustment. My ins. company does offer gap ins. for $45/year but i don't know if its applicable in my case (MB will have its own gap ins). Any other way to get paid for my trade in worth if car is lost/stolen? If not, i will ask dealer to cut me $15k check separately. Thanks
    .00122 MF and 50%/49% residual

    Single payment leases aren't treated as CAP cost reductions. They are treated as separate lease payments (at a lower money factor, thus lower payment), that are all pre-paid. So, in theory, if the lease is involuntarily terminated through accident or theft, say after 3 payments, the rest of the payments are returned to the lessee, before payoff calculations are conducted.

    But, if you trade your $15K car and use it towards the single-pay lease, you will have, in effect, made a large CAP cost reduction, and run the same risk.

    The advantage of a single-pay lease is the savings from it being calculated with a discounted money factor.

    Another thing to be clear on.. All CAP reduction isn't automatically lost, if the lease is terminated early. It's at risk, but it's possible that depending on value and your insurance payoff that you might retain some of it. But, if the insurance payoff is insufficient to cover the lease payoff, and GAP is involved, then it won't be used to reimburse you for CAP reductions. And, that is the same, whether it's MBFS' gap coverage, or coverage you purchase from your insurance company. That's why it's so cheap. It only covers the bank's loss.

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    fineman2fineman2 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2017
    Can you please validate these number for 2018 GLS 450 i got from dealer for 3 year/30k miles lease

    msrp - $83125
    selling price - 75228
    MF (with MSDs) - .00050
    Residual - 58% $48212
    Depreciation - $27016
    Sales Tax (NJ - 6.875%) - $1857
    Acq Fee - 995
    Other fees/tax - $1400 ($600 doc, $430 dmv, $370 luxury tax)

    Monthly payment - $946 with no cap cost reduction and all fees/tax rolled in. First month payment to drive out. good/ok?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    fineman2 said:

    Can you please validate these number for 2018 GLS 450 i got from dealer for 3 year/30k miles lease

    msrp - $83125
    selling price - 75228
    MF (with MSDs) - .00050
    Residual - 58% $48212
    Depreciation - $27016
    Sales Tax (NJ - 6.875%) - $1857
    Acq Fee - 995
    Other fees/tax - $1400 ($600 doc, $430 dmv, $370 luxury tax)

    Monthly payment - $946 with no cap cost reduction and all fees/tax rolled in. First month payment to drive out. good/ok?

    If I add all the taxes and fees to the selling price, I get $933/mo - pretty close, but about $450-500 difference in cap cost.

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    bay_105bay_105 Member Posts: 25
    Hi! May I have MF & residuals in Northern California for GLS450, 2018, 12K/24 and 12K/36?? And same for 10k/24, 10k/36? Looking to see what a better deal will be. Thanks! 
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,115
    bay_105 said:

    Hi! May I have MF & residuals in Northern California for GLS450, 2018, 12K/24 and 12K/36?? And same for 10k/24, 10k/36? Looking to see what a better deal will be. Thanks! 

    .00122 MF and 61%/57% residual for 24/36 mo, 12K/yr
    Add 1% for 10K/yr

    Just stick with 36 months

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    davewassdavewass Member Posts: 2
    What's current programs for 36 month 12k GLS 450
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,886
    davewass said:

    What's current programs for 36 month 12k GLS 450

    .00122 and 57%

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    gls550786gls550786 Member Posts: 1
    GLS 550, full lease payment up front for the 36m term.12k miles 

    Dallas, TX

    Please tell me what the MF and TV I should expect from the dealership? 
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