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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    Attractive enough front end on that Buick wagon, in my estimation.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,250
    stickguy said:

    New Buick wagon. Is that called a Regal? Whatever it is, if sold here, good for at least 4-5 sales per year.

    Yeah, wagons don’t sell. Apparently new Enclaves don’t either. I see tons like my prior generation but still haven’t seen the 18 in the wild yet. They must still have a bunch of 2017s to fire sale off.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Michaell said:

    Tour X, I believe.

    Right, it's the new 2018 Buick Regal TourX. If wagons don't sell how do you explain all those Subarus? VW's Jetta/Golf wagons are popular too.

    What will Buick do for model development now that Opel is no longer in the GM family?


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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,284
    andys120 said:

    Michaell said:

    Tour X, I believe.

    Right, it's the new 2018 Buick Regal TourX. If wagons don't sell how do you explain all those Subarus? VW's Jetta/Golf wagons are popular too.

    What will Buick do for model development now that Opel is no longer in the GM family?


    The people in the Subarus think they are driving an SUV.
    When was the last time you saw a Legacy wagon?

    I think the new Regal wagon is great looking. But, I also really like the Regal sedan.
    I'm afraid neither of them will sell very well.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,285
    Our Outback is as tall as an SUV - something the wife and I were surprised with when we test drove it.

    Legacy wagon has been discontinued since 2015.

    I'm waiting for the Regal Sportback to find its way onto dealer lots - would be nice if it were 85% of the vehicle the A5 Sportback or 4-series Grand Coupe is, at 50-60% of the price.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,285
    Jaguar drop head coupe?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    XK120 FHC
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    kyfdx said:

    andys120 said:

    Michaell said:

    Tour X, I believe.

    Right, it's the new 2018 Buick Regal TourX. If wagons don't sell how do you explain all those Subarus? VW's Jetta/Golf wagons are popular too.

    What will Buick do for model development now that Opel is no longer in the GM family?


    The people in the Subarus think they are driving an SUV.
    When was the last time you saw a Legacy wagon?

    I think the new Regal wagon is great looking. But, I also really like the Regal sedan.
    I'm afraid neither of them will sell very well.
    If GM wants to make it into a Bubaru they are going to have to lift it.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,832
    only way to sell a wagon is to raise the suspension and throw on a little cladding and call it a CUV.

    I think Volvo sells 1 V for every 25 or so XC or cross country versions of the 60 and 90 wagons. I suspect VW sells a ton more alltracks vs. plain Golf wagons. And Subaru stopped selling Legacy wagons entirely.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Michaell said:

    Jaguar drop head coupe?

    It's a '53 Jaguar XK-120 FHC (Fixed Head Coupe)
    . A Drop-Head Coupe (DHC) would have had a convertible top that could be folded down. Roadsters would have a top that had a removable frame that would be pieced together for weather protection, they were referred to as OTS (Open Two Seaters) .

    The car shown was originally made with disc wheels and rear fender spats and converted to wires/ open rear whls. I personally like the look of the disc wheel covers and spats best

    You decide>







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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,832
    Open wheels. I hate the look of spats of an you kind.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    All the spats did on that car was overheat the already lousy rear brakes. Wires look better, especially when they aren't pimpy chrome.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited January 2018
    Well, I kinda thought that mostly you'd prefer the wires and open wheels. I'll bet you don't like whitewalls either>



    As for the disc wheels and spats, I was driving on a rural road near my home a few yrs back when I came upon an XK-120 OTS which was black with matching disc wheels and spats. It was one of the nicest looking cars I ever laid eyes on. I bought a scale model of an XK-120 just like it.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think the whites good OK with the disc wheels, but not with wires. I prefer wire wheels that are open as it visually allows the car to "float" and appear agile. The spats and disc wheels turn what was a very modern car into an old-fashioned one. IMO it doesn't flatter the true nature of the car.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited January 2018

    I think the whites good OK with the disc wheels, but not with wires. I prefer wire wheels that are open as it visually allows the car to "float" and appear agile. The spats and disc wheels turn what was a very modern car into an old-fashioned one. IMO it doesn't flatter the true nature of the car.

    Actually by the 1950s wire wheels were an anachronism so they wouldn't make a car look
    "modern" which is why they were never seen on Porsches, Benzes or Alfas after 1950 or so.

    It's true that the spats are also a throwback to the Streamline styling of the 1930s. I wouldn't put those on most cars but IMO they do a nice job of lowering and lengthening the 120.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,250
    andys120 said:
    Tour X, I believe.
    Right, it's the new 2018 Buick Regal TourX. If wagons don't sell how do you explain all those Subarus? VW's Jetta/Golf wagons are popular too. What will Buick do for model development now that Opel is no longer in the GM family?
    Well everyone answered for me... thanks all lol 

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    andys120 said:

    I think the whites good OK with the disc wheels, but not with wires. I prefer wire wheels that are open as it visually allows the car to "float" and appear agile. The spats and disc wheels turn what was a very modern car into an old-fashioned one. IMO it doesn't flatter the true nature of the car.

    Actually by the 1950s wire wheels were an anachronism so they wouldn't make a car look
    "modern" which is why they were never seen on Porsches, Benzes or Alfas after 1950 or so.

    It's true that the spats are also a throwback to the Streamline styling of the 1930s. I wouldn't put those on most cars but IMO they do a nice job of lowering and lengthening the 120.
    Oh I dunno....wire wheels were "the" look for British sports cars through the 1960s. I'm not sure why Benzes look so awful with wires and British cars look so good. Maybe it's just tradition.

    Also Benz and Alfa designed some beautiful alloy wheels, and in terms of modernity, were way ahead of the British and Americans in the 1950s. Only the French managed to trump them (or at least equal them) with the Citroen DS.

    Nonetheless, in 1948, the Jaguar 120 was about the fastest thing you could buy for the money--and the engine at least was modern. The car was considered a fantastic bargain.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Mystery Dash>

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    1990-ish Ford Taurus SHO?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    First gen Taurus with an airbag wheel, must be 90-91.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Yup, that's a 1991 Ford Taurus SHO, the three pedals and the stick shift being the "tells". The SHO was a great engine search of a good car. ;)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Somebody has a button fetish :p
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,802
    edited January 2018
    Well, the badges and whatnot tell me it is an Autobianchi A112 Abarth.
    which generation is tougher. Maybe early 80s?

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    The badges tell the story, it's an Autobianchi-Abarth A112 ca. late 70s/early 80s. Autobianchi was a consortium of bicycle maker Bianchi, Pirelli and Fiat which under the direction of Fiat's engineering chief Dante Giacosa devolped the modern subcompact in the front-drive, transverse-motor form that is nearly universal today. The A112 was a development of the pioneering Autobianchi Primula based on a shortened Fiat 128 chassis.
    It was suceeded by the Y10 sold under the Lancia and Autobianchi name.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    Well, the Mini came first, right? The first fwd Autobianchi was in '64, the Mini in '59.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    texases said:

    Well, the Mini came first, right? The first fwd Autobianchi was in '64, the Mini in '59.

    That's right the Mini was the first to have the transverse FWD set-up but it was Fiat and Autobianchi who "mainstreamed" it by adding the hatchback and selling them in massive numbers far beyond those reached by the BMC companies.

    1964 Primula 5-door>



    Dutch brochure for Fiat 128 5 Porte>



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  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Finally this Mystery Car game is getting a bit easier for me to play. My turn!

    Hint. This one does not have Autobianchi Abarth badges.



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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    1972-ish Super Beetle?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    omarman said:

    Finally this Mystery Car game is getting a bit easier for me to play. My turn!

    Hint. This one does not have Autobianchi Abarth badges.



    1966 Volkwagen Beetle/Bug. In '66 the Bug flat four was enlarged from 1200cc/40hp
    to 1300cc/50hp.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    andys120 said:

    omarman said:

    Finally this Mystery Car game is getting a bit easier for me to play. My turn!

    Hint. This one does not have Autobianchi Abarth badges.



    1966 Volkwagen Beetle/Bug. In '66 the Bug flat four was enlarged from 1200cc/40hp
    to 1300cc/50hp.
    I thought about an older Beetle, but I couldn't find a pic of one with the vented 'hood' until later. Was that optional?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,832
    White fintail toward the back, with a 64 barracuda hiding behind it.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,832
    edited January 2018
    And an austin (marina?) between the 2 bugs.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,832
    And is it a hillman minx in front of red beetle?

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    I'll grab the 1953 Mercury.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,284
    texases said:

    andys120 said:

    omarman said:

    Finally this Mystery Car game is getting a bit easier for me to play. My turn!

    Hint. This one does not have Autobianchi Abarth badges.



    1966 Volkwagen Beetle/Bug. In '66 the Bug flat four was enlarged from 1200cc/40hp
    to 1300cc/50hp.
    I thought about an older Beetle, but I couldn't find a pic of one with the vented 'hood' until later. Was that optional?
    That picture is from the UK. Guessing their engine choices could have been different

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Ooh I see a fintail next to the 63 Impala. Color makes it hard to determine the model, but it appears to be a W111.

    Car next to the red Beetle is a Renault 4CV, car in front of the guy appears to be a MG 1100

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Quick add-on, car on the other side of the red Beetle looks like a 60 Starliner.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    @omarman - what year Beetle?
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    And, there's a 1957 Chrysler in there too.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    Per wiki:
    In 1970, a new "L" (Luxus) Package was introduced including, among other items, twin map pockets, dual rear ashtrays, full carpeting, a passenger-side visor vanity mirror, and rubber bumper moldings. The optional 1500 cc engine now came with an engine lid having two rows of cooling louvers, while the convertible's engine lid gained two additional sets for a total of four. For North America, the 1500 cc engine was enlarged to 1600 cc engine and produced 57 hp (43 kW; 58 PS)

    There were two Beetles for the first time in 1971, the familiar standard Beetle and a new, larger version, different from the windscreen forward. All Beetles received an engine upgrade: the optional 1500 cc engine was replaced by a 1600 cc with twin-port cylinder heads and a larger, relocated oil cooler. The new engine produced 60 hp (45 kW; 61 PS). The ventilation system was improved with the original dash-top vents augmented by a second pair aimed directly at the driver and passenger. For the first time the system was a flow-through design with crescent-shaped air exits fitted behind the rear quarter windows. Airflow could be increased via an optional 2-speed fan. The standard Beetle was now badged as the VW 1300; when equipped with the 1600 engine, it was badged 1300 S, to avoided confusion with the Type 3, which wore VW 1600 badges.

    So I'm thinking that makes it a '71 standard Beetle with the 1300 engine.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    As I look closer, I see a dark colored car beyond the fintail, facing the opposite direction. Might be a MB Ponton.
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited January 2018
    texases said:

    Per wiki:
    In 1970, a new "L" (Luxus) Package was introduced including, among other items, twin map pockets, dual rear ashtrays, full carpeting, a passenger-side visor vanity mirror, and rubber bumper moldings. The optional 1500 cc engine now came with an engine lid having two rows of cooling louvers, while the convertible's engine lid gained two additional sets for a total of four. For North America, the 1500 cc engine was enlarged to 1600 cc engine and produced 57 hp (43 kW; 58 PS)

    There were two Beetles for the first time in 1971, the familiar standard Beetle and a new, larger version, different from the windscreen forward. All Beetles received an engine upgrade: the optional 1500 cc engine was replaced by a 1600 cc with twin-port cylinder heads and a larger, relocated oil cooler. The new engine produced 60 hp (45 kW; 61 PS). The ventilation system was improved with the original dash-top vents augmented by a second pair aimed directly at the driver and passenger. For the first time the system was a flow-through design with crescent-shaped air exits fitted behind the rear quarter windows. Airflow could be increased via an optional 2-speed fan. The standard Beetle was now badged as the VW 1300; when equipped with the 1600 engine, it was badged 1300 S, to avoided confusion with the Type 3, which wore VW 1600 badges.

    So I'm thinking that makes it a '71 standard Beetle with the 1300 engine.

    Good job.
    The pic is captioned, 1971 Type 1
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    Just past the white '53 Merc 2-dr is a blue '63 Impala Coupe sporting the faux-convertible roofline that debuted that year. The yellow Jeep is likely a CJ-5 probably made by Kaiser.

    Did anyone mention the Mustang 'vert on the left. I think the wheel covers are for a '65.




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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    And an austin (marina?) between the 2 bugs.

    I think that's an MG 1100.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675

    stickguy said:

    And an austin (marina?) between the 2 bugs.

    I think that's an MG 1100.
    Definitely, I knew a family that had one.

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