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28firefighter · July 2018

So sorry @ab348.

houdini1 · July 2018

Condolences AB. You did the right thing. I once heard a story that a guy heard that pets don't go to Heaven. The guy said, well if that is true, I want to go where they go. I feel the same way.

snakeweasel · July 2018

ab348 said:

Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

My condolences on your loss.

jmonroe · July 2018

@ab348, sorry to hear that but at least no more suffering. You did the right thing.

jmonroe

roadburner · July 2018

ab348 said:
Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

So sorry; I hate losing a pet.

Michaell · July 2018

@ab348 - so sorry for your loss. Amazing how attached we become to our pets. When the time is right, I'm sure you'll find a new pet to love.

pensfan83 · July 2018

I'm so sorry for your loss @ab348. Fur is family.

oldfarmer50 · July 2018

driver100 said:
I thought I would be the 1st to post this morning since it is 11:30 a.m. In London, but, old farmer beat me - 6:30 a.m. Eastern time. I guess farmers do get up eariy, even if they drive cars instead of farm.

Our hotel is behind Harrods....don't worry, Mrs. Driver got it for a huge discount. The place has limousines all over the place waiting around while the masters go in to shop.

We scored tickets for Hamilton....waited in line for returns. We are probably the only people in the world who don't like it. All rap music that you can't make out with incessant booming noise. Some songs were good but not great. It is long and tedious. The actual story is interest, but the play is sluggish and dull. Dream Girls was entertaining with much better music. We will see Motown again because I want to see something I know we will enjoy though we have seen it before.

If I go to a play I want to come out feeling better than when I went in, and I want to be entertained. Hamilton was like a long drawn out history lesson, and rap music is something I would never choose to listen to.

LOL. You should know that I'm still an old farmer of sorts. I was up at 4:30 today getting ready for market.

I can see why you might not enjoy Hamiliton seeing that it is based on American historical characters. It would be like most Americans watching a play based on a Canadian explorer. The context wouldn't be there.

berri · July 2018

A cat is really just a like a dog, a member of the family. I think most vets are pretty straightforward when it is time and it sounds like you did right by Fred. My condolences. He was a handsome looking guy.

cdnpinhead · July 2018

From a fellow cat person, RIP Fred. Sorry for your loss @ab348. You'll need to get another companion for your other cat, the name of whom escapes me.

henryn · July 2018

So sorry for your loss, @ab348. Very very tough.

carnaught · July 2018

@ab348, so sorry you lost your buddy, but you did the right thing. It takes something out of us when we lose our sweet pets.

nyccarguy · July 2018

I’m truly sorry for your loss @ab348

nyccarguy · July 2018

You don’t know how bad the roads are until you drive them in a 14’ Box Truck. Due to a medical emergency that my driver experienced yesterday, I’ve spent some seat time getting myself acquainted with our company’s 2006 Mitsubishi FUSO FE180. Here’s a shot of it while we were unloading at a stop in Manhattan this AM.

oldfarmer50 · July 2018

ab348 said:
Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

Sorry your cat got sick but you did him the highest kindness by ending his suffering.

imidazol97 · July 2018

snakeweasel said:

fintail said:

Does the Audi/BMW turn one into an aggressive yutz, or do jerks gravitate to those brands? Does an old Buick or obese SUV make someone slow down and lose self-awareness in the left lane, or are they just magnets for the oblivious? The mysteries of life
imidazol97 said:

Does the car being driven by the smaller percentage of aggressive drivers make a difference?

I would think that certain demographics would be attracted to certain brands/ makes/types of cars. I'll leave it at that.

Shouldn't stereotype... from the Free Press:
Brothers Matt and Andy Wonnacott of Livonia are young, single guys who choose to drive Buicks.

They are atypical Buick buyers given its reputation as an old-man sedan brand. But the Wonnacotts are unfazed.

"Look at them now, they don't look like old people's cars," said Matt Wonnacott, 37, who described his 2015 Buick Regal sedan as fast, reliable and stylish. "I don't care about perception, I just want what makes me happy."

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/06/27/gm-buick-enclave-regal-sales/717550002/

imidazol97 · July 2018

snakeweasel said:

The Founding Fathers had a rather dim view on democracies and believed that a democracy would devolve into either mob rule or a dictatorship. "Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship" Alexander Hamilton.

The Founding Fathers strived to create a Republic where the rule of law and not the rule of the majority was what mattered. That's why they created a system that is hard to change.

Thank you.

imidazol97 · July 2018

ab348 said:
Bad day here today.

Sorry about your loss of your friend. That same pattern of recurrence of tumors happened to a friend's cat in the last year.

Further, I didn't really think much about how the loss of a patient affects vets. Our daughter-in-law to be was sad last weekend because she had lost a cat during surgery last week. I suspect it's something all doctors get used to happening, but I know she loves small animals and that's why soon-to-be Dr. Azol is specializing in them at her new job.

abacomike · July 2018

imidazol97 said:

I have become so frustrated with this site - I can no longer use my smart phone (iPhone) to read and /or post on any of the forums. For 6 years or longer, I have always been able to post and read posts, but now postings do not fit on my iPhone's screen - even if I turn the phone to horizontal, I still can't read anything because Edmunds has changed the site. Even on my PC (which I am now posting from) is difficult - the font has become so small, it's difficult to read. Moderators, what have they done? Why the major change to make it impossible to use a smart phone? Why the tiny fonts? This is awful.
Have you tried left-clicking on a message on your PC screen, the holding down the CTRL key in lower left of keyboard while you slowly roll the scroll wheel on the mouse? That should change your text sizes, larger and smaller,

Yes, imid, I have. Problem is more about my iPhone - which I use 95% of the time I am on Edmunds.

stickguy · July 2018

I never use my phone for sites where there are forums or I try to post. Just to look stuff up. But I have no issues with Edmunds (logging in or fonts) on my PC or iPad. Comment all the time on the pad.

abacomike · July 2018

ab348 said:

Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

So sorry to read about your loss. Losing a friend, pet or human, is traumatic. My sincere condolences!

abacomike · July 2018

tjc78 said:

@abacomike

You are stuck in desktop mode on the site. Only way to get it back to mobile mode is to clear all your history and cookies from the IPhone Settings menu.

Once you do that, log back in and all will be fine. It happened to me a few weeks back.

Thanks for the tip. It worked - but I lost some data and passwords - but that can be resolved.

imidazol97 · July 2018

abacomike said:
Yes, imid, I have. Problem is more about my iPhone - which I use 95% of the time I am on Edmunds.

Won't the folks at the Apple store fix everything for you?

abacomike · July 2018

imidazol97 said:

Yes, imid, I have. Problem is more about my iPhone - which I use 95% of the time I am on Edmunds.
Won't the folks at the Apple store fix everything for you?

The only problem I had was on Edmunds - no other sites caused these issues. Thus, it is the Edmunds site that caused the problem. But it has been resolved thanks to the suggestion from tjc!

explorerx4 · July 2018

@tbirdmarco
Keep posting those videos and good luck wit the job search.
I will have to catch up when I get back for OBX.
Leaving @3am.

explorerx4 · July 2018

@ab348,
Sorry to hear about your cat. Hard to lose a pet.

abacomike · July 2018

Just purchased airline tickets for my son and grandson #2 for arrival at FLL on August 9th at 4:30 PM. American Airlines is the only airline that has convenient flights from Palm Springs (PSP) to Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) via DFW. $478.00 round trip for each of them - actually quite reasonable. Last year they had to drive to Ontario, CA, near Riverside, and fly Southwest to Phoenix with a 4 hour layover. The tickets were $100 less, but it’s worth the extra $100 each to fly right out of the Coachella Valley - 65 miles less driving with only 55 minute layovers each way.

They will be here only 3 nights, but my son has to get back to Palm Springs to work. He then has to get grandson #1 to Nebraska on August 17th to begin his college fall semester. But even though it’s only 4 days, just seeing my grandson for the first time in almost 10 years is exciting and worth everything. I don’t know how he will respond due to his Aspergers, but just giving him a hug would be so good. My son said he talks a mile a minute, but that’s part of the syndrome. .

sda · July 2018

henryn said:
So sorry for your loss, @ab348. Very very tough.

x2 Pets are wonderful and become family. Very sad.

fintail · July 2018

Sorry about the loss, ab348. Remember the good memories, and I suspect you were a good caretaker - when you feel up to it. maybe rescue one from a shelter and give it just as good of a life.

fintail · July 2018

Millennial types also choose older ones for their usually reliable powertrains, inconspicuous and comfortable presence, and low prices. I see 20s-30s guys in 90s era models often, as the cars age well around here.

imidazol97 said:

Shouldn't stereotype... from the Free Press:
Brothers Matt and Andy Wonnacott of Livonia are young, single guys who choose to drive Buicks.

They are atypical Buick buyers given its reputation as an old-man sedan brand. But the Wonnacotts are unfazed.

"Look at them now, they don't look like old people's cars," said Matt Wonnacott, 37, who described his 2015 Buick Regal sedan as fast, reliable and stylish. "I don't care about perception, I just want what makes me happy."

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/06/27/gm-buick-enclave-regal-sales/717550002/

benjaminh · July 2018

ab348 said:
Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

Sad day indeed. Condolences. Nice pic of Fred, who seems to have enjoyed life.

We have an astonishing six cats in our family, all adopted over the past two years by our kids. We haven't lost any of them yet, but I know someday that day will be upon us....

fintail · July 2018

Funny thing, rule of law and the will of the people both don't matter much today

snakeweasel said:

The Founding Fathers had a rather dim view on democracies and believed that a democracy would devolve into either mob rule or a dictatorship. "Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship" Alexander Hamilton.

The Founding Fathers strived to create a Republic where the rule of law and not the rule of the majority was what mattered. That's why they created a system that is hard to change.

roadburner · July 2018

I paid off the 2 Series today- only six months behind schedule. I normally take out a 60 month loan and pay it off in 24 months, but the election campaign put a kink in my finances,as I put up 71% of the campaign costs myself. Still, I'm glad to be debt free for at least a little while.

bwia · July 2018

@ab348, so sorry for your loss. Your cat, Fred is in feline heaven and I hope you are lucky enough to find suitable replacement companion in due course.

BTW, I'm just curious, was Fred buried in a pet cemetery or disposed in a govt. approved manner?

stickguy · July 2018

if we don't change anything in the fleet in the near term, I need to see how fast can pay off the Elantra. Been a while since we had all the cars paid off at one time. But we used to do it. Before the kids hit college!

Took out a 5 year loan. Could have done 3 instead probably, certainly 4. So just need to double up payments to get it done in two.

driver100 · July 2018

snakeweasel said:

ab348 said:

Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

My condolences on your loss.

Me too......Fred is a beautiful cat and he looks very intelligent.

driver100 · July 2018

This morning I am #1.....first on, even ahead of early rising oldfarmer. It is 11 a.m. In London, 6 a.m. Eastern Time.

Good luck Marco in the job search.....you deserve something good.

sb55 · July 2018

@ab348
Sorry for your loss.
In the eye of the law animals are property (USA, anyway), but we know that is not the case.

sda · July 2018

I am 3 payments away from having the Accord paid off , and we are paying extra on the Pilot to pay it off early. The goal is to have both paid off by this October. Though I pine for a new car, it will be great to have them paid for.

stickguy · July 2018

driver100 said:
This morning I am #1.....first on, even ahead of early rising oldfarmer. It is 11 a.m. In London, 6 a.m. Eastern Time.

Good luck Marco in the job search.....you deserve something good.

Having fun? Did you get to attend the woman's finals? That sounded like an exciting match. Not that I watch tennis.

stickguy · July 2018

sda said:
I am 3 payments away from having the Accord paid off , and we are paying extra on the Pilot to pay it off early. The goal is to have both paid off by this October. Though I pine for a new car, it will be great to have them paid for.

out of curiosity I ran an amortization schedule on my Elantra. If I target the 3 year point to pay off the balance that should be easy to do. I normally never want a loan longer than that anyway. Plus, it makes the "should I lease or buy" question an easier comparison, since the terms are equal. You just end up at 3 years with a paid off car worth whatever you can get for it, vs. nothing! Right now, just based on Edmunds, even though i only put ~ $1,000 down on it, I am pretty much even on it.

doing some quick math, and estimating a very aggressive lease payment (I never actual ask for a lease quote when I was buying), I am paying about $100/month more on the loan, so about $3,600 over the life of the loan. Adding that to the principal balance after 36 payments, and adjusting for the tax and DMV due at the end of a lease (to buy out), my purchase is roughly equivalent to if I had leased it and was able to buy it at the end for ~ $11,500. Pretty sure a low mile, pristine Sport should be worth more than that at the time (or at least, would have trouble finding a better car deal for that money!) And that the residual on a lease would be higher.

or I could sell it long before then!

ab348 · July 2018

Thanks to everyone for the kind words about Fred. He really was a great cat. I've had many over the years and he is one of the top two among all of them. Now I just have Rusty, who is a fine cat but not the same sort of personality.

It was a very tough day as it was totally unexpected and the circumstances (I won't go into the details) were fairly gruesome. If there is anything good that happened, it was that I discovered him in distress around 2:15PM and immediately called his vet. They closed at 2:00 but there vet who had been treating him was still there closing up, saw my name come up on the phone, and answered. After a short discussion she had me bring him in even though she had no help there. She stayed with me there until almost 4:00 there dealing with things. She could just as easily not bothered to answer the phone.

@bwia, she offered me a few options. Most are cremated these days here. I chose not to have the ashes returned.

graphicguy · July 2018

ab348 said:
Bad day here today. Back in April my cat Fred had surgery to remove a cancerous tumor on his back. The pathology report on what they removed indicated they had got all of it. While I was in the hospital last month a new lump appeared nearby. Initially it was tested as benign, but another test just yesterday indicated otherwise and he was probably going to have more surgery next week. But today he took a very bad turn for the worse and I had to have him put down. Poor fellow, he was in agony and could not walk after jumping and moving just fine earlier. He was a very human-like cat in terms of personality and I am very, very sad. RIP Fred.

AB...so sorry!

snakeweasel · July 2018

imidazol97 said:

fintail said:

Does the Audi/BMW turn one into an aggressive yutz, or do jerks gravitate to those brands? Does an old Buick or obese SUV make someone slow down and lose self-awareness in the left lane, or are they just magnets for the oblivious? The mysteries of life
Does the car being driven by the smaller percentage of aggressive drivers make a difference?

I would think that certain demographics would be attracted to certain brands/ makes/types of cars. I'll leave it at that.
Shouldn't stereotype... from the Free Press: Brothers Matt and Andy Wonnacott of Livonia are young, single guys who choose to drive Buicks. They are atypical Buick buyers given its reputation as an old-man sedan brand. But the Wonnacotts are unfazed. "Look at them now, they don't look like old people's cars," said Matt Wonnacott, 37, who described his 2015 Buick Regal sedan as fast, reliable and stylish. "I don't care about perception, I just want what makes me happy." https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/06/27/gm-buick-enclave-regal-sales/717550002/

Not stereotyping here, just noting that certain demographics will be drawn towards certain cars not that all drivers of certain cars are like that. A recently divorced 40 something guy with a 20 year old girlfriend is more likely to buy a Porcshe 911 than a Chevy Cruz, but that's not saying that all or even most 911 drivers fit that description.

snakeweasel · July 2018

fintail said:

Millennial types also choose older ones for their usually reliable powertrains, inconspicuous and comfortable presence, and low prices. I see 20s-30s guys in 90s era models often, as the cars age well around here.
Shouldn't stereotype... from the Free Press: Brothers Matt and Andy Wonnacott of Livonia are young, single guys who choose to drive Buicks. They are atypical Buick buyers given its reputation as an old-man sedan brand. But the Wonnacotts are unfazed. "Look at them now, they don't look like old people's cars," said Matt Wonnacott, 37, who described his 2015 Buick Regal sedan as fast, reliable and stylish. "I don't care about perception, I just want what makes me happy." https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/06/27/gm-buick-enclave-regal-sales/717550002/

Most of the under 30 crowd that I know probably don't even know that they made cars prior to 2000. The few I know that drive older cars is because they can't afford anything newer.

oldfarmer50 · July 2018

nyccarguy said:
You don’t know how bad the roads are until you drive them in a 14’ Box Truck. Due to a medical emergency that my driver experienced yesterday, I’ve spent some seat time getting myself acquainted with our company’s 2006 Mitsubishi FUSO FE180. Here’s a shot of it while we were unloading at a stop in Manhattan this AM.

I can't imagine how hard it would be to manuver that in the city. Good job not scraping it up.

BTW, aren't you afraid to post your name and phone number on the internet? Don't you worry that one of the strange characters that lurk here will be calling you up in the middle of the night and asking you what wax your car is wearing?

snakeweasel · July 2018

fintail said:

Funny thing, rule of law and the will of the people both don't matter much today
The Founding Fathers had a rather dim view on democracies and believed that a democracy would devolve into either mob rule or a dictatorship. "Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of a dictatorship" Alexander Hamilton.

The Founding Fathers strived to create a Republic where the rule of law and not the rule of the majority was what mattered. That's why they created a system that is hard to change.

True all it is today is pushing an agenda and keeping power. That's my political rant for the week.

oldfarmer50 · July 2018

stickguy said:
if we don't change anything in the fleet in the near term, I need to see how fast can pay off the Elantra. Been a while since we had all the cars paid off at one time. But we used to do it. Before the kids hit college!

Took out a 5 year loan. Could have done 3 instead probably, certainly 4. So just need to double up payments to get it done in two.

A guy at work bought a 2013 low mile Elantra to do Lyft and Uber. This week his daughter rear ended two cars while texting at 55 mph. Daughter ok but two other parties injured. Car totaled.

While he had it he loved the car. I'm guessing his feelings for his daughter are mixed at this point.

oldfarmer50 · July 2018

stickguy said:

sda said:
I am 3 payments away from having the Accord paid off , and we are paying extra on the Pilot to pay it off early. The goal is to have both paid off by this October. Though I pine for a new car, it will be great to have them paid for.
out of curiosity I ran an amortization schedule on my Elantra. If I target the 3 year point to pay off the balance that should be easy to do. I normally never want a loan longer than that anyway. Plus, it makes the "should I lease or buy" question an easier comparison, since the terms are equal. You just end up at 3 years with a paid off car worth whatever you can get for it, vs. nothing! Right now, just based on Edmunds, even though i only put ~ $1,000 down on it, I am pretty much even on it.

doing some quick math, and estimating a very aggressive lease payment (I never actual ask for a lease quote when I was buying), I am paying about $100/month more on the loan, so about $3,600 over the life of the loan. Adding that to the principal balance after 36 payments, and adjusting for the tax and DMV due at the end of a lease (to buy out), my purchase is roughly equivalent to if I had leased it and was able to buy it at the end for ~ $11,500. Pretty sure a low mile, pristine Sport should be worth more than that at the time (or at least, would have trouble finding a better car deal for that money!) And that the residual on a lease would be higher.

or I could sell it long before then!

I think I have about $11,000 left to pay on the Mustang and since the money I would pay it off with is earning about 4% and the loan is 1.89% I don't see a need.

One question I do have is the last payment slip in the book says "call for final payment". Is that normal? Since the dealer set up the financing and beat my credit union by a little bit I wonder if there were some shenanigans in the fine print that I missed.

Or is this just a routine provision in case you had charges for late payments?

henryn · July 2018

oldfarmer50 said:

One question I do have is the last payment slip in the book says "call for final payment". Is that normal? Since the dealer set up the financing and beat my credit union by a little bit I wonder if there were some shenanigans in the fine print that I missed.

Or is this just a routine provision in case you had charges for late payments?

I think that is normal (or at least not unusual). To double check that, check the last payment due notice that you got in the mail. There should be a "payoff balance" on that sheet of paper. A quick bit of math, and you should know for sure if everything is kosher.

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