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    100chuck100chuck Member Posts: 149
    qbrozen said:



    That's about retail. I would have said more like $4,000, but the miles are low and on THAT car, that's very important. Like Q says, these cars need a PPI.

    Actually most of these I see are really ratted out--this one looks pretty nice in photos. Could be a decent buy.

    Buy the best XK8 you can afford--no fixer uppers.


    We are in total agreement.

     $4k would be $1k over dealer auction and $6k is retail. But I'm anticipating this one is nicer than a dealer lot and the repair history is there. I think that deserves the premium. (Again, if it checks out)

    Thanks for the info, I did a lot of those repairs on my XJ8, looking for a summer cruiser.
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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    What are auction values looking like for something like this (in CO)?

    2017 Miata RF (hardtop)
    Club with Brembo/BBS package
    Manual trannie
    Ceramic white
    7,000 miles

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    breld said:
    What are auction values looking like for something like this (in CO)?

    2017 Miata RF (hardtop)
    Club with Brembo/BBS package
    Manual trannie
    Ceramic white
    7,000 miles
    Mid $25s

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    edited August 2018
    Really? So...this is a good value if not a little suspicious?

    greenwoodautomotive.com/vehicle-details/used-2017-mazda-mx-5-miata-rf-club-greenwood-village-co-id-25328214

    This is the one I posted in the other forum that is listed as an auto but clearly is a manual.

    Hmm - maybe my idea of buying a convertible in Denver in the Fall could work out.

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    tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,606
    edited August 2018
    There can't be many of those used yet, I would think. The only used RF I can find up here is a black GT at $29k.

    23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd

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    pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,559
    I've only advertised my grandfather's truck by word of mouth but have multiple interested parties with one person making an informal offer of $10,500 pending a test drive. I'm picking it up this weekend to bring it back to Pittsburgh and get the belts, hoses, and tires replaced. I was expecting to be closer to the high 8's so if that offer pans out my family will be thrilled.
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    breld said:
    Really? So...this is a good value if not a little suspicious? greenwoodautomotive.com/vehicle-details/used-2017-mazda-mx-5-miata-rf-club-greenwood-village-co-id-25328214 This is the one I posted in the other forum that is listed as an auto but clearly is a manual. Hmm - maybe my idea of buying a convertible in Denver in the Fall could work out.
    Great deal.


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    spice568nmspice568nm Guest Posts: 24
    edited August 2018
    This is for a lady friend of mine who wants to unload his Mini Cooper S because of the expense of repairs.

    2010 Mini Cooper S
    99,000 miles
    Red exterior, black leather interior.
    Sunroof
    Automatic transmission
    Good tires, no body damage, overall condition good.

    How much can she expect from trading in vs try to sell it herself (idea she doesn't like).

    San Diego CA area.

    Thanks!
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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    Thanks Q on the Miata info. When you say it's a great deal I KNOW it's a great deal...it's almost like I HAVE to buy it. ;)

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    pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,559
    Maybe @kyfdx and myself can roadtrip back together, me in the Prelude him in the Golf R B)
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    This is for a lady friend of mine who wants to unload his Mini Cooper S because of the expense of repairs. 2010 Mini Cooper S 99,000 miles Red exterior, black leather interior. Sunroof Automatic transmission Good tires, no body damage, overall condition good. How much can she expect from trading in vs try to sell it herself (idea she doesn't like). San Diego CA area. Thanks!
    $2500-$3k trade. Could ask $5995 private and see what happens. She should take the first $4500 cash offer though.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    pensfan83 said:

    Maybe @kyfdx and myself can roadtrip back together, me in the Prelude him in the Golf R B)

    Ha! Believe me, the wife supports the Miata but does not particularly like them, so the Golf R stays (for now).

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I'd put it at $6,500 and try to get about $5900 for it. This presumes clean, no damage. A trade-in would be brutal. Maybe CARMAX would buy it? Worth a shot!
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    andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,729
    breld said:

    pensfan83 said:

    Maybe @kyfdx and myself can roadtrip back together, me in the Prelude him in the Golf R B)

    Ha! Believe me, the wife supports the Miata but does not particularly like them, so the Golf R stays (for now).
    I think a manual Golf R would be a bit too tame for me. I think you should get a Stage 1 APR tune and see how you like it. The turbo 2.0T begs to be turned up, really almost like Audi engineers planned for it ahead of time and snickers at the EPA or CARB.
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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,269
    andres3 said
    ... really almost like Audi engineers planned for it ahead of time and snickers at the EPA or CARB.
    Well, it wouldn’t be the first time...  :D
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    spice568nmspice568nm Guest Posts: 24
    edited August 2018

    I'd put it at $6,500 and try to get about $5900 for it. This presumes clean, no damage. A trade-in would be brutal. Maybe CARMAX would buy it? Worth a shot!

    Thanks Q and Mr_shiftright.
    Cooper sure looks nice, if it were a manual I would have been tempted to make an offer for it. Will let you know what happens...

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    EMR88813EMR88813 Member Posts: 9
    Hi, need a trade value for a 2013 Ford Fiesta SE Silver hatch 72000 miles very good condition. New brakes in the last 90 days. New tires in the 12 months.
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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,800
    edited August 2018
    EMR88813 said:

    Hi, need a trade value for a 2013 Ford Fiesta SE Silver hatch 72000 miles very good condition. New brakes in the last 90 days. New tires in the 12 months.

    Should add the transmission type, interior color, and general location just to ensure accurate results!

    Edit: Scratch the location; I assume we're talking about Michigan given your ID info.
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    EMR88813EMR88813 Member Posts: 9
    xwesx said:

    EMR88813 said:

    Hi, need a trade value for a 2013 Ford Fiesta SE Silver hatch 72000 miles very good condition. New brakes in the last 90 days. New tires in the 12 months.

    Should add the transmission type, interior color, and general location just to ensure accurate results!

    Edit: Scratch the location; I assume we're talking about Michigan given your ID info.
    It's an automatic trans, interior color charcoal cloth heated seats, Ann Arbor Michigan
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    EMR88813 said:
    Hi, need a trade value for a 2013 Ford Fiesta SE Silver hatch 72000 miles very good condition. New brakes in the last 90 days. New tires in the 12 months.
    Oddly varied range on these for some reason. On average, you are probably looking at about $3500.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,800
    edited August 2018
    qbrozen said:


    Oddly varied range on these for some reason. On average, you are probably looking at about $3500.

    A good candidate for private party sale!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,563
    help for my sister. Trade in value in N. VA (outside DC). 2009 Acura TSX. red over black. Base model (no tech package). A few battle scars (scratches, etc.) though the front bumper skin was just redone (or replaced) and that eliminated the most glaring flaws. 1 owner and always dealer serviced. Good tires.

    98,000 miles on it.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    $5k-$5500

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,563
    thanks. if I needed it, I would buy it. That's how I got the 2000 TL. Paid her the trade in offer. quite the steal.

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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,269
    edited September 2018
    Qb and others, do you consider a car with an accident CarFax that says “very minor damage reported” in the CF report to potentially be in “clean” condition for TMV purposes, if it was properly repaired. Or does the CarFax report automatically demote it to “average,” even if the car otherwise looks great? 
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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,439
    @corvette - I'd say to err on the side of caution and automatically demote it to average condition because that's what a dealer would do on a trade. I'd want to see a copy of the repair invoice from the body shop to see the extent of the damage.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    definitely a penalty. AS I always say, which of the 2 cars priced exactly the same and identical in every way OTHER than that carfax would you purchase? How much of an extra discount would entice you to overlook it?

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    DrivingfoolDrivingfool Member Posts: 227
    Know I won't be happy when I go to trade in the Golf but eventually, it'll have to go. Coming up on five years of ownership on both and nothing to speak of. Little quirks that never got fixed but car runs great and due for an oil change/rotation soon. Tires Plus is my go to place now that my warranty is over and will do a wash/wax once that's done. Once cleaned up, hard to tell where I got hit to be honest and I love the way it drives.
    Did see an article about the new ILX and was excited to see the pics and read the article. Like it's inner Hondaness, a big draw for me but prefer the looks of the outgoing model. A contender on my short list so who knows. Might be going to St. Cloud on Saturday if they get the drywall up as I want to see it and then the models. Could see us in that same development or somewhat near, just have to get a lay of the land. Who knows, might put down a deposit while there as the wife knows I want to follow our oldest. Funny thing, the kid has no issues with our being somewhat near. A three bedroom, 2.5 bath anything could fit the bill even in a condo.
    Not sure I want to buy something before we sell this puppy but having all that cash would help. Prices what they are now means we could bank at least a $100K after buying unit for cash. Definitely ready to re-locate up state.

    Mr. Driving Fool :)B)
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    therealbofatherealbofa Member Posts: 53
    Hi fellas - can you give me a trade estimate on this one for the 34787 area?

    2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited
    Barcelona Red with black interior
    27K miles

    In case it matters, it has a small dealer-installed spacer lift, upgraded wheels and AT tires, and side steps.
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    Hi fellas - can you give me a trade estimate on this one for the 34787 area? 2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited Barcelona Red with black interior 27K miles In case it matters, it has a small dealer-installed spacer lift, upgraded wheels and AT tires, and side steps.
    2wd or 4wd?
    cheapo lift kit could hurt it. How high is it?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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    therealbofatherealbofa Member Posts: 53
    qbrozen said:
    Hi fellas - can you give me a trade estimate on this one for the 34787 area? 2016 Toyota 4Runner Limited Barcelona Red with black interior 27K miles In case it matters, it has a small dealer-installed spacer lift, upgraded wheels and AT tires, and side steps.
    2wd or 4wd?
    cheapo lift kit could hurt it. How high is it?
    4WD. I believe it’s a ProComp 2.5”. Not drastic and levels it out nicely.
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think it will affect resale value. I'm sure some buyers would not mind but the dealer is going to hammer on it, I would suspect. So more of an issue with trade than with private sale IMO.
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    henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    I suspect that many dealers would not notice it, if you just don't mention it. A 2.5 inch lift is not that obvious.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,435
    henryn said:

    I suspect that many dealers would not notice it, if you just don't mention it. A 2.5 inch lift is not that obvious.

    Maybe, big fat all-terrain tires might tip them off?

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    edited September 2018


    4WD. I believe it’s a ProComp 2.5”. Not drastic and levels it out nicely.

    well, for clean trade, you'd be looking at $33k. I can't guess how dealers will treat the lift and wheels, if they notice.

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Here's one with a 3" lift:

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    It really depends on the type of kit. Some 2" seem to look much higher than other 2". Not sure why that is.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,435

    It really depends on the type of kit. Some 2" seem to look much higher than other 2". Not sure why that is.

    That model is a lot older, though, I think.

    I wonder what the modern model looks like? The PRO models are already pretty butch. On a private sale in FL, it might help.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,955
    kyfdx said:
    It really depends on the type of kit. Some 2" seem to look much higher than other 2". Not sure why that is.
    That model is a lot older, though, I think. I wonder what the modern model looks like? The PRO models are already pretty butch. On a private sale in FL, it might help.
    Really? Senior citizens are into climbing up into their trucks, huh? ;b

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    elevators in the running boards? :p
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,563
    well, they have power retracting running boards, so why not?

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,435
    Those people are all driving 2012 Camrys with the carriage roof treatment.

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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,269
    edited September 2018
    And spoilers! I’m disappointed there are no whitewalls and no gold kit. 
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,435
    edited September 2018
    corvette said:

    And spoilers! I’m disappointed there are no whitewalls and no gold kit. 

    I have limited internet time. ;)

    You’ll notice I found an example with Florida plates, though?

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,563
    probably would have been harder to find one without Florida plates.

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    therealbofatherealbofa Member Posts: 53
    The lift isn't very noticeable. When parked next to stock 4Runners with the same body style, the difference is not significant (actually a bit disappointed but no biggie). The AT tires aren't oversized really either. Same OD as OEM tires, just wider and nicely flush against the fender. Here's a pic from last year.

    qbrozen said:


    4WD. I believe it’s a ProComp 2.5”. Not drastic and levels it out nicely.

    well, for clean trade, you'd be looking at $33k. I can't guess how dealers will treat the lift and wheels, if they notice.
    Thanks buddy!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,435
    Yeah... that doesn't look off. The A/T tires are the only tip-off.

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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, not bad. The dealer might not care. Let us know how this plays out.
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    What would be real trade-in value for 2017 Audi S6 Prestige with 15K miles?
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