Looking at the following offer for a 540Xi. They would also be making the final 2 payments of $522 on my current lease and keeping the car.
Resid: 60% @ 36/12k MF: 00182 --> .00147 w/ 7 MSDs (have $3300 in MSDs on my current BMW lease) MSRP: $73685 Sell Price: $65000 Rebate: $3000 ($2000 loyalty, $1000 Lease credit) Adj Cap Cost: $62000 Capped Fees: $1824 ($925 Acq, $750 lic/reg, $149 doc) Total Taxes: $1424.40 (this is where i get a little confused...the dealer is in SD, but I'm in Iowa which taxes the monthly payment @ 5% - so curious why they don't have a "base payment" then a "payment with tax" - but, see below, seems like it comes within a couple $s regardless) Adj Cap Cost: $65248.40 Amt due at Signing: $2695.28 ($1950 to max out MSDs and first payment) Monthly: $745.28
Using the leasehackr calculator, it comes up with $704 base, $739 after tax (it also adds in $150 due at signing for the tax on the rebates...which if they roll that into the payment adds $4.17...which puts me at $743.17)...so basically w/in a couple dollars of their quote.
Looking at the following offer for a 540Xi. They would also be making the final 2 payments of $522 on my current lease and keeping the car.
Resid: 60% @ 36/12k MF: 00182 --> .00147 w/ 7 MSDs (have $3300 in MSDs on my current BMW lease) MSRP: $73685 Sell Price: $65000 Rebate: $3000 ($2000 loyalty, $1000 Lease credit) Adj Cap Cost: $62000 Capped Fees: $1824 ($925 Acq, $750 lic/reg, $149 doc) Total Taxes: $1424.40 (this is where i get a little confused...the dealer is in SD, but I'm in Iowa which taxes the monthly payment @ 5% - so curious why they don't have a "base payment" then a "payment with tax" - but, see below, seems like it comes within a couple $s regardless) Adj Cap Cost: $65248.40 Amt due at Signing: $2695.28 ($1950 to max out MSDs and first payment) Monthly: $745.28
Using the leasehackr calculator, it comes up with $704 base, $739 after tax (it also adds in $150 due at signing for the tax on the rebates...which if they roll that into the payment adds $4.17...which puts me at $743.17)...so basically w/in a couple dollars of their quote.
Look accurate/good to you guys?
I'm within .01 of that quote. Looks good.
Not sure that you would pay SD tax, if you live in Iowa. I'd suggest you do some research on that issue, so you don't get surprised.
Drive-off fees ($0 down) License Fee $611 Acquisition Fee $925 Reg $30 Sales Tax on Cap Reduction $185 Doc $80 Tire $7 More Tax $92.96 1 Month $600 Total $2530.96
I am not sure which rebates I qualify for but this is it... I did not purchase any insurance for the tires and I hope it's the right decision.
This site and its moderators are helping so many people nationwide understand an otherwise very complicated business transaction. Best deal or not I feel at peace with myself because I did my due diligence and tried my best given the resources given. Already recommended my friends to utilize this website as well. Thank you so much.
Drive-off fees ($0 down) License Fee $611 Acquisition Fee $925 Reg $30 Sales Tax on Cap Reduction $185 Doc $80 Tire $7 More Tax $92.96 1 Month $600 Total $2530.96
I am not sure which rebates I qualify for but this is it... I did not purchase any insurance for the tires and I hope it's the right decision.
This site and its moderators are helping so many people nationwide understand an otherwise very complicated business transaction. Best deal or not I feel at peace with myself because I did my due diligence and tried my best given the resources given. Already recommended my friends to utilize this website as well. Thank you so much.
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We recommend skipping the tire and wheel insurance; only the dealer benefits from it.
Here is a quote I recieved on a 530xi with 9000 miles for 36/10k. Dealer sales rep said residual factor gets reduced 6pts to 54% due to high starting mileage and they also took an excess mileage charge of $1700. Is that correct?
Here is a quote I recieved on a 530xi with 9000 miles for 36/10k. Dealer sales rep said residual factor gets reduced 6pts to 54% due to high starting mileage and they also took an excess mileage charge of $1700. Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct.
But, that is almost 25% off MSRP, which may make up for the decrease in residual.
I'm guessing you could get a similar deal on a new unit.
Here is a quote I recieved on a 530xi with 9000 miles for 36/10k. Dealer sales rep said residual factor gets reduced 6pts to 54% due to high starting mileage and they also took an excess mileage charge of $1700. Is that correct?
Money factor is marked up from .00182
I'm going to have to disagree. With just first payment and DMV upfront, I don't think you could get that payment on a new one. That's a pretty good deal.
I'm looking at a 2018 540d with 7100 miles on it. The sales person claims it is not leasable because a) it's more than 5000 miles and b) BMW changed their lease program (from back when I leased my current high mileage loaner).
Clearly this is BS - unless it is a regional thing? (Maryland).
Question: what would be expected residual and mileage penalty? The listed sales price is $54,500 (from an MSRP of $69K). Since incentives are no longer applicable is this also what I should be looking at as capitalization cost (sans fees)?
I'm looking at a 2018 540d with 7100 miles on it. The sales person claims it is not leasable because a) it's more than 5000 miles and b) BMW changed their lease program (from back when I leased my current high mileage loaner).
Clearly this is BS - unless it is a regional thing? (Maryland).
Question: what would be expected residual and mileage penalty? The listed sales price is $54,500 (from an MSRP of $69K). Since incentives are no longer applicable is this also what I should be looking at as capitalization cost (sans fees)?
It can be leased - deduct 4% from the stated residual, plus subtract .25/mile for the 7100 miles.
What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking at?
21% off sticker is pretty decent, given the number of miles.
Yes, the selling price would be the cap cost, if youi plan on paying all taxes and fees up front.
How do you calculate the residual on a demo? I understand what you stated above, that they charge you .25/mile and deduct that from the residual price, but are you saying that they also adjust the residual percentage, and if so, by how many points? I found a 540i demo with 6519 miles that I would like to lease for 24/10 in SoCal? Since 6519x.25= 1629.75/24 months= 67.90, do I simply add 67.90 to the month payment, or do I also adjust the original 67% RV downward, and if so, by how much?
How do you calculate the residual on a demo? I understand what you stated above, that they charge you .25/mile and deduct that from the residual price, but are you saying that they also adjust the residual percentage, and if so, by how many points? I found a 540i demo with 6519 miles that I would like to lease for 24/10 in SoCal? Since 6519x.25= 1629.75/24 months= 67.90, do I simply add 67.90 to the month payment, or do I also adjust the original 67% RV downward, and if so, by how much?
Thanks a lot for your help, Jeff
If the car has between 5000 and 7499 miles, you subtract 4% from the published residual and deduct the $1629.25 from that amount.
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
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Can you please tell me what should the MF and residual for 2018 530 vs 2019 530e 36/15k in 89044? Also, would they typically be adding additional incentives to move inventory before the new year? Thank you.
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
.00182 MF and 60% residual $1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner? $3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
Can you please tell me what should the MF and residual for 2018 530 vs 2019 530e 36/15k in 89044? Also, would they typically be adding additional incentives to move inventory before the new year? Thank you.
2018 530i: .00182 MF and 58% residual $1000 lease bonus
Current programs run through January 2nd. It's possible they could add incentives, but not likely. Better deals might be had in the week between Christmas and New Years, though.
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
.00182 MF and 60% residual $1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner? $3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
It is not a service loaner. What doc fee should I be aiming for?
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
.00182 MF and 60% residual $1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner? $3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
It is not a service loaner. What doc fee should I be aiming for?
Most dealers won't negotiate the fee.. but, if it's egregious, you could ask for a lower selling price. Do you have a breakdown of the $3226 upfront?
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
.00182 MF and 60% residual $1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner? $3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
It is not a service loaner. What doc fee should I be aiming for?
Most dealers won't negotiate the fee.. but, if it's egregious, you could ask for a lower selling price. Do you have a breakdown of the $3226 upfront?
Yes, This is the breakdown of the start up fees:
557 First Payment 925 Acquisition fee 499 Dealer doc fee 906 License Plates 339 Tax on cap reduction 3226 Total Fees
2018 BMW 530i MSRP: $54,330 Sales price: $44,719 MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off) Residual: 60% Miles: 12,000 Lease: 36 months Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax) Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
.00182 MF and 60% residual $1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner? $3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
It is not a service loaner. What doc fee should I be aiming for?
Most dealers won't negotiate the fee.. but, if it's egregious, you could ask for a lower selling price. Do you have a breakdown of the $3226 upfront?
Yes, This is the breakdown of the start up fees:
557 First Payment 925 Acquisition fee 499 Dealer doc fee 906 License Plates 339 Tax on cap reduction 3226 Total Fees
What do you think?
The deal seems fair. I don't like paying marked up money factors. That adds $1200 to your deal.
$9600 discount -$1200 MF markup -$500 dealer fee -$1000 lease credit from BMW
Now, the actual discount is down to $5900 Is loyalty or some other rebate part of the discount?
It might still be a decent deal... but, it's good to see it for what it is, and not get blown away by the "$9600" discount.
I just signed. Thanks for all the help. Finally settled on 2018 530e - 36/15k MSRP 58495 selling price 51248 (12.4% off) 925 aquisition 549 doc 29.25 title 3100 cap cost reduction Lease incentives 2000 (Conquest, but NO OL code NO Loyalty) Adjusted Cap Cost = 49651.36 - residual 33695 Total depreciation 15956.26 = 443.22 Total MF payments 5460.86 = 151.69 (.00182, even though they pushed .00222 for a while) Tax Rate for NV 8.25% = 49.08
Final = $2000 down and $644/month = 24540 total spent
I feel it could have been 15-20 a month cheaper, but they were way higher started at 768 w/ 2k down. Then got to $678 with 2k down. I pushed for 630. They said no, then I left. the next day manager reached out saying 654 with 2k down. I said know. They called a couple more times and I finally went to 644. Actually very polite sales team, but thanks to Michael and these types of sites, I didn't spend an extra 4k. Good luck to everyone else. Do your research!!
I just signed. Thanks for all the help. Finally settled on 2018 530e - 36/15k MSRP 58495 selling price 51248 (12.4% off) 925 aquisition 549 doc 29.25 title 3100 cap cost reduction Lease incentives 2000 (Conquest, but NO OL code NO Loyalty) Adjusted Cap Cost = 49651.36 - residual 33695 Total depreciation 15956.26 = 443.22 Total MF payments 5460.86 = 151.69 (.00182, even though they pushed .00222 for a while) Tax Rate for NV 8.25% = 49.08
Final = $2000 down and $644/month = 24540 total spent
I feel it could have been 15-20 a month cheaper, but they were way higher started at 768 w/ 2k down. Then got to $678 with 2k down. I pushed for 630. They said no, then I left. the next day manager reached out saying 654 with 2k down. I said know. They called a couple more times and I finally went to 644. Actually very polite sales team, but thanks to Michael and these types of sites, I didn't spend an extra 4k. Good luck to everyone else. Do your research!!
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Resid: 60% @ 36/12k
MF: 00182 --> .00147 w/ 7 MSDs (have $3300 in MSDs on my current BMW lease)
MSRP: $73685
Sell Price: $65000
Rebate: $3000 ($2000 loyalty, $1000 Lease credit)
Adj Cap Cost: $62000
Capped Fees: $1824 ($925 Acq, $750 lic/reg, $149 doc)
Total Taxes: $1424.40 (this is where i get a little confused...the dealer is in SD, but I'm in Iowa which taxes the monthly payment @ 5% - so curious why they don't have a "base payment" then a "payment with tax" - but, see below, seems like it comes within a couple $s regardless)
Adj Cap Cost: $65248.40
Amt due at Signing: $2695.28 ($1950 to max out MSDs and first payment)
Monthly: $745.28
Using the leasehackr calculator, it comes up with $704 base, $739 after tax (it also adds in $150 due at signing for the tax on the rebates...which if they roll that into the payment adds $4.17...which puts me at $743.17)...so basically w/in a couple dollars of their quote.
Look accurate/good to you guys?
Not sure that you would pay SD tax, if you live in Iowa. I'd suggest you do some research on that issue, so you don't get surprised.
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2018 530e (Northern California)
MSRP $57,945
Selling Price $51,555.10 (11%)
Rebate $2,000 (taxable)
Adjusted Cap $49,555.10
Residual $35,346.45 (61%)
MF 0.00182
Monthly $600 (all included)
Drive-off fees ($0 down)
License Fee $611
Acquisition Fee $925
Reg $30
Sales Tax on Cap Reduction $185
Doc $80
Tire $7
More Tax $92.96
1 Month $600
Total $2530.96
I am not sure which rebates I qualify for but this is it... I did not purchase any insurance for the tires and I hope it's the right decision.
This site and its moderators are helping so many people nationwide understand an otherwise very complicated business transaction. Best deal or not I feel at peace with myself because I did my due diligence and tried my best given the resources given. Already recommended my friends to utilize this website as well. Thank you so much.
$1000 lease credit
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We recommend skipping the tire and wheel insurance; only the dealer benefits from it.
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Only if the unit has under 5000 miles
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But, that is almost 25% off MSRP, which may make up for the decrease in residual.
I'm guessing you could get a similar deal on a new unit.
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I'm going to have to disagree. With just first payment and DMV upfront, I don't think you could get that payment on a new one. That's a pretty good deal.
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MF and Residual for 24/10 and 24/12, please
Zip is 80007
Thanks,
Bryan
67%/66% residual
$1000 lease credit
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Clearly this is BS - unless it is a regional thing? (Maryland).
Question: what would be expected residual and mileage penalty? The listed sales price is $54,500 (from an MSRP of $69K). Since incentives are no longer applicable is this also what I should be looking at as capitalization cost (sans fees)?
What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking at?
21% off sticker is pretty decent, given the number of miles.
Yes, the selling price would be the cap cost, if youi plan on paying all taxes and fees up front.
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(The double-dipping residual plus miles also really makes no sense, but oh well)
To answer your question - 36 months/ 10K
.00182 and 61%
$1000 lease credit
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What is the MF and residual? california
would they be different? Norcal vs Socal? 95050 vs 92504?
Thanks,
Shan
36/15
.00182 and 58%
$1000 lease credit
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could you please share any incentives and lease terms for a 2018 540i in 95125 for December - for 12/36? Is loyalty or pull ahead available?
thank you
But, no changes for December.
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No info on loyalty or pull ahead, yet.
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2018 530e xdrive
36/12
Zip 80129
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Thanks a lot for your help,
Jeff
Also, you lose any incentives if over 5000 miles
Let's assume MSRP is $65,000
67% - 4% = 63%, or $40,950, less $1629.25
$39,320.75 is the adjusted residual.
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MSRP: $54,330
Sales price: $44,719
MF: .00222 (dealer claims MF has to be at .00222 to make up for the $10,000 off)
Residual: 60%
Miles: 12,000
Lease: 36 months
Start up fees down - $3,226 (1st payment, license, doc fee, acq fee, cap reduction tax)
Zip code: 85016
Monthly payment: $557 including tax
Hi, I'm looking for a second opinion. Is this a good deal? Thanks for your help.
$1000 lease credit
That's a big discount... is it a service loaner?
$3226 is a lot upfront. How big is that doc fee?
The money factor markup adds about $1210 to the cost of the lease.
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$1000 lease bonus
Current programs run through January 2nd. It's possible they could add incentives, but not likely. Better deals might be had in the week between Christmas and New Years, though.
2019 numbers are here:
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/51717/bmw/5-series/2019-bmw-5-series-lease-deals-and-prices#latest
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Do you have a breakdown of the $3226 upfront?
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557 First Payment
925 Acquisition fee
499 Dealer doc fee
906 License Plates
339 Tax on cap reduction
3226 Total Fees
What do you think?
$9600 discount
-$1200 MF markup
-$500 dealer fee
-$1000 lease credit from BMW
Now, the actual discount is down to $5900
Is loyalty or some other rebate part of the discount?
It might still be a decent deal... but, it's good to see it for what it is, and not get blown away by the "$9600" discount.
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$1000 lease cash
66% is for 24/12
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May I have MF and RV, 36/15k for 2018 530e iPerformance, zip 91006, include any incentive?
Also what will be a good price discount percentage off MSRP since 2019 is out already?
Thank you.
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Finally settled on 2018 530e - 36/15k
MSRP 58495
selling price 51248 (12.4% off)
925 aquisition
549 doc
29.25 title
3100 cap cost reduction
Lease incentives 2000 (Conquest, but NO OL code NO Loyalty)
Adjusted Cap Cost = 49651.36 - residual 33695
Total depreciation 15956.26 = 443.22
Total MF payments 5460.86 = 151.69 (.00182, even though they pushed .00222 for a while)
Tax Rate for NV 8.25% = 49.08
Final = $2000 down and $644/month = 24540 total spent
I feel it could have been 15-20 a month cheaper, but they were way higher started at 768 w/ 2k down. Then got to $678 with 2k down. I pushed for 630. They said no, then I left. the next day manager reached out saying 654 with 2k down. I said know. They called a couple more times and I finally went to 644. Actually very polite sales team, but thanks to Michael and these types of sites, I didn't spend an extra 4k. Good luck to everyone else. Do your research!!
Thanks for coming back and sharing your deal details with us.
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