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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,616
    You're singing my song. In my case it's 11 years and 152K miles.

    That said, the car is in generally good mechanical shape but has any number of surface dings as well as several shades of red paint on display. Honda paint doesn't age worth a damn in the desert, and I've needed a driver's door, rear bumper cover and front bumper cover replaced over the years, as well as a fairly significant repair to the top rim of the windshield which involved a local repaint.

    It's not a showpiece, but I very much enjoy it, almost as much as I enjoy having had it paid for for over a decade.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    andres3 said:

    andres3 said:



    I think any data regarding motor vehicle collisions or fatalities not equalized for miles driven is skewed and potentially inaccurate.

    You can die in an accident at 1 MPH if you are a pedestrian getting your head crushed.

    Going by miles driven can be skewed and inaccurate too. Increasing speed does increase risk of a fatal accident, simple physics should tell you that. In say Washington D.C. the vast majority of driving is done at slow speeds resulting in less severe accidents which results in less severe injuries which results in less fatalities. However in say Montana where more miles are driven at higher speeds the opposite would be true.
    The problem is your assumption and premise is incorrect. Yes, increasing the speed of a collision does increase the chances of having a fatality. However, that DOES NOT translate into increased speeds increasing risk of a fatal accident. The main reason for that is that you first have to have an accident, for an accident to be relevant. If less collisions happen at higher speeds, then your chances of being involved in one decrease. Less collisions decreases your risk of having a fatality. This is why both air travel and high speed roadways tend to be the safest. There are other reasons, but this is what it boils down to.

    Then of course there are the side reasons why going faster is safer, which seem to outweigh the "physics" factor, which is why you don't like a straight-forward mathematical and objective equalizer of per miles traveled/driven.
    Actually there are multiple studies that show in speeds in excess of around 40 MPH going faster increases your risks of a fatal accident. I really cant see how faster is safer if all other factors are consistent. The reason I don't like the miles driven, or any other single factor, is that it's more complicated than that. There are many factors at play including, but not limited to, speed, relative speed to other traffic, traffic density, road design, road condition, terrain, climate, type of vehicle, condition of vehicle and driver skills just to name factors off the top of my head.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    tjc78 said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

    Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video 


    All I can say is wow.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,652

    tjc78 said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

    Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video 


    All I can say is wow.
    That was some video. I watched the storm chaser bad driving in snow video after it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XavVVS1IYyY

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,224
    According to the comments on the video, she had a stroke and couldn’t move her left side.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,652
    edited February 2019
    I thought it was odd. I wondered if she was in a diabetic low blood sugar state since it would seem most people having trouble controlling a car would let up on the accelerator and come to a stop.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    $15500 for that thing, a one seater with 3 wheels, rather get a 2 or 3 year old pre-owned normal car.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

    Gee, that's really interesting. I'm beginning to think that type of warfare has already been imposed on Canada and you are a test case. :p

    jmonroe
    Yeh, I got rayed with waves that enhanced my intelligence.
    Yeah but that's in Canadian IQ points, how much is it after conversion?
    Converted to American it goes up 22%.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    driver100 said:

    houdini2 said:

    driver100 said:

    houdini2 said:

    houdini2 said:

    driver100 said:

    fintail said:

    Weirdly enough, Canada has higher life expectancy (by 3 years), and exponentially smaller risk of losing everything you worked for due to a tragic medical diagnosis - all while spending less per capita. No system is perfect and no doubt there are issues there, but I don't personally know any Canadians (or anyone else in the developed world) demanding an American style system. I wonder why that is.


    ab348 said:

    Fin, the health care system here is run by govt, not just paid for by them, which makes a huge difference in how it performs. You have all of the problems of a massive bureaucracy and the resultant lack of flexibility, productivity and accountability that goes with that. Plus there is never enough money to keep up with the tech or even to maintain facilities properly, while closing some outdated facilities in locations that have been left behind by the population is tantamount to unthinkable.

    You may not face medical bankruptcy here, but you may well die or have quality of life severely limited before that could happen anyway because of lack of proper and timely treatment. There is no free lunch.

    I removed the parties so it wouldn't be political.

    The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of --------- and 52 percent of --------. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.
    Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible.
    henryn said:

    houdini2 said:


    Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

    Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings


    Well, "they" rank Canada #1, and Canada is pretty close and available, but I sure don't see many people clamoring to move there from the U.S. Maybe those rankings depend on who is doing the ranking, who you ask, what your critera is, and what your agenda is.
    Few people move for a little better standard of living. They will move if it means having a much higher standard of living. And, it isn't as easy as it sounds, you just don't get let into Canada because you want to go there...there is a process and it is a difficult one, in the same way people can't just apply and they will be let into the U.S.A.

    btw.....getting access to healthcare without it wiping you out financially isn't the same as being given a free car. I don't use the healthcare system that much fortunately for me, but, I am glad my friends, relatives, family etc. have access to medical care, and never have to worry about how they will pay for it.
    Certainly free health care and free cars are not the same...but they are examples of what many people would support if proposed by government, which is how I used them.
    Agree people would vote for someone who offered them a "free" car, they think there are no costs involved. But, healthcare is a different concept.........a country should strive to look after all it's citizens basic needs - healthcare is a basic need just as shelter and eating are basic needs...free car, not so much.
    So are you saying the government should provide people's shelter and food?
    I don't think anyone actually starves to death in your country, and there are shelters or welfare so you hopefully can find a place to spend the night indoors...unless you don't want to.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    They should rename it Death Wish Motors

    "And in THIS corner, we have......"




    Not sure why but that front grill makes me think of this:

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,662
    edited February 2019
    @driver100,
    I think just topped your last selfie of you in you gray striped tee shirt. :D
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    tjc78 said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

    Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video 


    Unbelievable....I think it is an everyday event though in Florida.
    They mentioned Zephyr Hills and Highway 301....sounds like Florida.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    @driver100,
    I think just topped your last selfie of you in you gray striped tee shirt. :D

    The last one was Batman...it replaced the T-shirt....do you want me to post it again?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    edited February 2019
    Explorer.....I like the grill on the 2019 Raptor F150;

    Looks like a mean machine...but, not overdone.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,274
    I like the color. But as much as I like having some sidewall, I think those tires are overkill for me.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,163
    tjc78 said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

    Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video 


    One day, a few years ago, I was out by the road near the baseball field that I do grounds keeping at. I heard an odd sound and looked up to see a lady coming down the street and she was occasionally running off the road. When she got right across the road from me she ran into a telephone pole. The grill got pushed in and the hood got bent up.

    Then the front wheels started turning and throwing up dirt and grass as she tried to go forward with the pole holding the car back.

    As I started to walk across the road to see if she was hurt, she backed up, pulled out onto the road, and drove away. :o

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Happy Valentine's day.

    Now go out there and celebrate it buy pretending to love your job.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,224
    Now here's something from the police blotter you don't see every day:

    https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/regional/rcmp-look-into-massive-theft-of-iceberg-water-from-newfoundland-warehouse-284234/

    30,000 liters of special water! Someone must have been really thirsty.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581

    Happy Valentine's day.

    Now go out there and celebrate it buy pretending to love your job.

    Is that what you call your marriage?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,274
    Is Dunkin’ Donuts a big Valentine’s Day destination? My wife said that when she drove by earlier the line was out the door into the parking lot!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,274
    A man of very few words.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,098
    Got a phone call (surprisingly, not a letter) from the police dept where my (alleged) speeding ticket was from. So apparently, the vast majority of people just pay the ticket (with no points) and don’t ask for a hearing, as I did.

    As such, they won’t be able to schedule the hearing until May.

    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,274
    Good luck. At this point, it has to be a lock that you are paying. That fix is in. You’re just going for the adventure now.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,652

    Got a phone call (surprisingly, not a letter) from the police dept where my (alleged) speeding ticket was from. So apparently, the vast majority of people just pay the ticket (with no points) and don’t ask for a hearing, as I did.

    As such, they won’t be able to schedule the hearing until May.

    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

    Uh, oh.

    I suspect they feel they are on solid ground with the kangaroo court setup in light of the Ohio court decisions.
    I wonder if there's an attorney who has specialized in putting a monkey wrench into the well-oiled gears in some way.

    I'm going to mention this to my new Ohio representative along with my increased fuel tax comments. He's new. We got rid of the insurance agent as state rep; now we have an ex-sheriff. But his website is not up and running a month after taking office. So no email. No phone number obvious. Hmmmm.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,381
    But it is all about safety! Think of the children!

    Got a phone call (surprisingly, not a letter) from the police dept where my (alleged) speeding ticket was from. So apparently, the vast majority of people just pay the ticket (with no points) and don’t ask for a hearing, as I did.

    As such, they won’t be able to schedule the hearing until May.

    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    fintail said:
    But it is all about safety! Think of the children!
    Got a phone call (surprisingly, not a letter) from the police dept where my (alleged) speeding ticket was from. So apparently, the vast majority of people just pay the ticket (with no points) and don’t ask for a hearing, as I did. As such, they won’t be able to schedule the hearing until May. Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.
    Perhaps if we all thought (thunk) more about the children (what’s best for them, that is) we wouldn’t need traffic and speeding tickets!  The police could concentrate more on preventing and stopping crime and mayhem.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,381
    And end the revenue flows and chances to be give a random lecture while flaunting 'thoratay? Surely you jest.
    abacomike said:


    Perhaps if we all thought (thunk) more about the children (what’s best for them, that is) we wouldn’t need traffic and speeding tickets!  The police could concentrate more on preventing and stopping crime and mayhem.

  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    And leave obeying any and all traffic laws to the discretion of the general public? Really?

    I'm afraid I'm too old and cynical to believe in the basic good intentions of the public. Why stop for the red light? Why even slow down? Let the other guy watch out.
    2023 Chevrolet Silverado, 2019 Chrysler Pacifica
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,901
    edited February 2019
    stickguy said:
    Is Dunkin’ Donuts a big Valentine’s Day destination? My wife said that when she drove by earlier the line was out the door into the parking lot!
    Probably business people bringing in treats for the holiday.  

    Also I know my Kid’s school has a little party today and everyone brings in a little treat.  I went to BJs last night for that as you can’t beat 24 mini cupcakes for $3.00!! 

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    bwia said:
    .
    Why that's "e" in Morse Code.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,274
    I saw a daily show clip yesterday where Trevor Noah talked about how weird it is coming to the US and learning how cops work. It was about passing a cop on the highway, doing the speed limit while cop was below, and getting pulled over and lectured. The gist of it was “in this country you don’t pass a cop!”

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    stickguy said:
    I saw a daily show clip yesterday where Trevor Noah talked about how weird it is coming to the US and learning how cops work. It was about passing a cop on the highway, doing the speed limit while cop was below, and getting pulled over and lectured. The gist of it was “in this country you don’t pass a cop!”
    I have pass cops all the time and never once been pulled over. 

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    edited February 2019
    stickguy said:

    A man of very few words.

    At least he is brief and to the point.
    He doesn't ramble on and on like some people, not naming names though...... :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581



    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

    When you get there ask them to point the way to the kangaroo court.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,652
    edited February 2019
    stickguy said:

    I saw a daily show clip yesterday where Trevor Noah talked about how weird it is coming to the US and learning how cops work. It was about passing a cop on the highway, doing the speed limit while cop was below, and getting pulled over and lectured. The gist of it was “in this country you don’t pass a cop!”

    I'd take that story with a grain of salt. A big one. I have never seen a car pulled over for going below the speed limit unless there was a light violation, e.g., one headlight or taillight. Or weaving.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,652
    A good story. We were under a boil advisory for all of the county provided water system and the central system which is provided by City of Dayton starting last night. Late afternoon some of the areas north had lost pressure.

    It took the city system and the county system working until 2:30 am to determine the leak was in a large main that is under the Great Miami River. The river is currently in high water stage. Out of safety concerns all folks on the county system and the city system were to boil and reduce use.

    Then this morning they provided a map that localized which areas actually were affected by the high pressure main that has burst or broken. Our area is not affected.

    It is scary that so large an area can be affected by the danger in unclean water. The plans for action were established after 911 and the anthrax scares. The City currently pumps the water because the County Water System's well had become contaminated or inefficient, I forget which.

    I realize there are events beyond hurricanes, tsunamis, tornadoes, forest fires, and so on that can be a problem.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    I saw a daily show clip yesterday where Trevor Noah talked about how weird it is coming to the US and learning how cops work. It was about passing a cop on the highway, doing the speed limit while cop was below, and getting pulled over and lectured. The gist of it was “in this country you don’t pass a cop!”
    I'd take that story with a grain of salt. A big one. I have never seen a car pulled over for going below the speed limit unless there was a light violation, e.g., one headlight or taillight. Or weaving.
    plus the fact that a cop pulling over someone without a legitimate reason could face some serious disciplinary action and might even warrant a criminal complaint against him or her.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited February 2019
    Sounds like your municipality handled the situation well, Imid. I recommend everyone hold chlorinated water storage at their home just in case the public system isn't available for a period of time. We have a 50-gallon drum and another set of 5-gallon containers.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581



    It is scary that so large an area can be affected by the danger in unclean water. The plans for action were established after 911 and the anthrax scares. The City currently pumps the water because the County Water System's well had become contaminated or inefficient, I forget which.

    I realize there are events beyond hurricanes, tsunamis, tornadoes, forest fires, and so on that can be a problem.

    That is one way the next war will be fought....contaminating the water supply.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581


    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    A man of very few words.

    At least he is brief and to the point.
    He doesn't ramble on and on like some people, not naming names though...... :p

    I know, I hate it when people just keep on rambling on ad nauseam. Really why can't they get to the point and not waste our time just posting dribble. It's like they get paid by the word, I really just don't get it. Be concise and to the point like me and don't continue ranting and raving all day long.

    RFLMAO that was classic.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,581
    You might enjoy this, or maybe not. 5 minute history of the Model T. Note how people are all dressed up and the working conditions...probably hot in the summer.
    https://safeshare.tv/x/ShbgvwazCZ

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,224


    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

    If it is not in front of a judge or otherwise arms-length magistrate, but instead someone who works for the police department, it would appear to be a clear violation of the Due Process clause of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,804
    As this is a civil violation for @graphicguy, there is no violation of due process. The threshold requirements and rights afforded are very different.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    henryn said:

    And leave obeying any and all traffic laws to the discretion of the general public? Really?

    I'm afraid I'm too old and cynical to believe in the basic good intentions of the public. Why stop for the red light? Why even slow down? Let the other guy watch out.

    Anarchy as a form of social order is best left to discussions in college cafeterias, if you ask me. I live in the Land of the 4-Way Stop Sign. I have seen anarchy up close. It isn't pretty.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,293

    tjc78 said:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

    Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video 


    All I can say is wow.
    All I can say is "wholly wow". I was going to say it the more conventional way but I ain't allowed to talk like that in here.

    jmonroe
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,662
    @imidazol97,
    My sister texted me this morning about the leak and having to boil water.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,726

    Got a phone call (surprisingly, not a letter) from the police dept where my (alleged) speeding ticket was from. So apparently, the vast majority of people just pay the ticket (with no points) and don’t ask for a hearing, as I did.

    As such, they won’t be able to schedule the hearing until May.

    Interestingly enough, it won’t be in a court, but at the police dept HQ. Sure, I’ll get a fair shake from the exact dept who benefits from the cash grab shakedown. I asked him (he said he was a Sgt) if it would be a true hearing in front of a magistrate or a judge. He said they’d use whomever would be available, including the police dept to render a judgement. Yeah....this is going to go well.

    Uh-oh ... you best be careful with a place like that!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Dg1gdWxAM

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