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snakeweasel

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

driver100 said:

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If not protected from someone to the south, who else is going to do it?

You are about all we got. We have a pre-owned sub that is about 40 years old they just added to the fleet...this sub was written off years ago. Our air farce hasn't been updated for decades.
All we got is you guys who won't want someone else... taking us over.

Sounds like you're not been putting enough money into defense.

Too much going into the healthcare system?

As long as you guys protect us...I would rather see it go into healthcare.

Protect you from who? I find invasions implausible on the Continent of America.

Oh come on. You never saw either of the Red Dawn movies? 

Well considering that any invasion would have to cross an ocean on be supported by supplies crossing that ocean it's very implausible. Especially since half the world's aircraft carriers fly the stars and stripes as well as the U.S Air Force being the largest air force in the world with the U.S. Navy air wing coming in second. Currently an invasion of North America would be a suicide mission.

driver100

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

driver100

houdini2 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

Weirdly enough, Canada has higher life expectancy (by 3 years), and exponentially smaller risk of losing everything you worked for due to a tragic medical diagnosis - all while spending less per capita. No system is perfect and no doubt there are issues there, but I don't personally know any Canadians (or anyone else in the developed world) demanding an American style system. I wonder why that is.

ab348 said:

Fin, the health care system here is run by govt, not just paid for by them, which makes a huge difference in how it performs. You have all of the problems of a massive bureaucracy and the resultant lack of flexibility, productivity and accountability that goes with that. Plus there is never enough money to keep up with the tech or even to maintain facilities properly, while closing some outdated facilities in locations that have been left behind by the population is tantamount to unthinkable.

You may not face medical bankruptcy here, but you may well die or have quality of life severely limited before that could happen anyway because of lack of proper and timely treatment. There is no free lunch.

I removed the parties so it wouldn't be political.

The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of --------- and 52 percent of --------. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible.

henryn said:

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Well, "they" rank Canada #1, and Canada is pretty close and available, but I sure don't see many people clamoring to move there from the U.S. Maybe those rankings depend on who is doing the ranking, who you ask, what your critera is, and what your agenda is.

Few people move for a little better standard of living. They will move if it means having a much higher standard of living. And, it isn't as easy as it sounds, you just don't get let into Canada because you want to go there...there is a process and it is a difficult one, in the same way people can't just apply and they will be let into the U.S.A.

btw.....getting access to healthcare without it wiping you out financially isn't the same as being given a free car. I don't use the healthcare system that much fortunately for me, but, I am glad my friends, relatives, family etc. have access to medical care, and never have to worry about how they will pay for it.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

Gee, that's really interesting. I'm beginning to think that type of warfare has already been imposed on Canada and you are a test case.

jmonroe

houdini2

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

Weirdly enough, Canada has higher life expectancy (by 3 years), and exponentially smaller risk of losing everything you worked for due to a tragic medical diagnosis - all while spending less per capita. No system is perfect and no doubt there are issues there, but I don't personally know any Canadians (or anyone else in the developed world) demanding an American style system. I wonder why that is.

ab348 said:

Fin, the health care system here is run by govt, not just paid for by them, which makes a huge difference in how it performs. You have all of the problems of a massive bureaucracy and the resultant lack of flexibility, productivity and accountability that goes with that. Plus there is never enough money to keep up with the tech or even to maintain facilities properly, while closing some outdated facilities in locations that have been left behind by the population is tantamount to unthinkable.

You may not face medical bankruptcy here, but you may well die or have quality of life severely limited before that could happen anyway because of lack of proper and timely treatment. There is no free lunch.

I removed the parties so it wouldn't be political.

The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of --------- and 52 percent of --------. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible.

henryn said:

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Well, "they" rank Canada #1, and Canada is pretty close and available, but I sure don't see many people clamoring to move there from the U.S. Maybe those rankings depend on who is doing the ranking, who you ask, what your critera is, and what your agenda is.

Few people move for a little better standard of living. They will move if it means having a much higher standard of living. And, it isn't as easy as it sounds, you just don't get let into Canada because you want to go there...there is a process and it is a difficult one, in the same way people can't just apply and they will be let into the U.S.A.

btw.....getting access to healthcare without it wiping you out financially isn't the same as being given a free car. I don't use the healthcare system that much fortunately for me, but, I am glad my friends, relatives, family etc. have access to medical care, and never have to worry about how they will pay for it.

Certainly free health care and free cars are not the same...but they are examples of what many people would support if proposed by government, which is how I used them.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

I liked St. Elsewhere. Well done show with some excellent characters, and cast. Premiered the same time as ER, just never became as popular.

I'll try that when we reach the jump the shark point in House.

In case someone doesn't know the phrase, Jump the Shark;
When a television series or movie reach a point at which far-fetched events are included merely for the sake of novelty, indicative of a decline in quality.
It got it's name from this scene:


the phrase derives from a scene in a Season 5 episode of the 1970s sitcom Happy Days in which the character Fonzie jumps over a shark while on water-skis.[2][3][4] This gimmick strayed absurdly outside the original storyline of the sitcom

I do believe that episode was right at the time the show started to focus more on Fonzie who up till then was more of a secondary character.

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy.

Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

I was going to have HR Block do my taxes this year - they wanted $195 for the Standard Deduction EZ filing.  So my best friend got his Turbo Tax software and offered to do my taxes for me.  So I sat down with him and in 20 minutes, it was filed.

BTW, my tax refund was deposited into my account this morning.  10 business days was all it took to get the refund.  Truly amazing turn-around time.

We charge $98 for just the basic 1040 (EZ no longer exists). Now the one thing you have to remember is what will turbo tax or your friend do for you in case they made a mistake?

driver100

henryn said:

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Henryn, Thanks for sharing that information. It does make you think about what things are important and can add to your quality of life. Not having to pay a huge medical bill certainly is one of them. I pay much more for healthcare than what I get out of it in dollars...but, the security and peace of mind for me and others makes it worth it. I think of it as insurance...I pay a smaller amount in case of a major problem.

ab348

2020 Corolla introduced.

driver100

ab348 said:

2020 Corolla introduced.

They sure uglied that one up....and narrow slits for front windshield....soon there won't be a car left that I will want to buy.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

Gee, that's really interesting. I'm beginning to think that type of warfare has already been imposed on Canada and you are a test case.

jmonroe

Yeh, I got rayed with waves that enhanced my intelligence.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

I liked St. Elsewhere. Well done show with some excellent characters, and cast. Premiered the same time as ER, just never became as popular.

I'll try that when we reach the jump the shark point in House.

In case someone doesn't know the phrase, Jump the Shark;
When a television series or movie reach a point at which far-fetched events are included merely for the sake of novelty, indicative of a decline in quality.
It got it's name from this scene:


the phrase derives from a scene in a Season 5 episode of the 1970s sitcom Happy Days in which the character Fonzie jumps over a shark while on water-skis.[2][3][4] This gimmick strayed absurdly outside the original storyline of the sitcom

I do believe that episode was right at the time the show started to focus more on Fonzie who up till then was more of a secondary character.

But, the show went downhill after that episode.

I think they run out of ideas, and they do something over the top to try and keep their viewers. But, it fails...happens with most shows. Though Netflix and Prime are smart...lots of shorter series that end after a few seasons and new shows take over.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

Gee, that's really interesting. I'm beginning to think that type of warfare has already been imposed on Canada and you are a test case.

jmonroe

Yeh, I got rayed with waves that enhanced my intelligence.

OK if you say so. Just don't ask for a vote in here.

jmonroe

driver100

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

Weirdly enough, Canada has higher life expectancy (by 3 years), and exponentially smaller risk of losing everything you worked for due to a tragic medical diagnosis - all while spending less per capita. No system is perfect and no doubt there are issues there, but I don't personally know any Canadians (or anyone else in the developed world) demanding an American style system. I wonder why that is.

ab348 said:

Fin, the health care system here is run by govt, not just paid for by them, which makes a huge difference in how it performs. You have all of the problems of a massive bureaucracy and the resultant lack of flexibility, productivity and accountability that goes with that. Plus there is never enough money to keep up with the tech or even to maintain facilities properly, while closing some outdated facilities in locations that have been left behind by the population is tantamount to unthinkable.

You may not face medical bankruptcy here, but you may well die or have quality of life severely limited before that could happen anyway because of lack of proper and timely treatment. There is no free lunch.

I removed the parties so it wouldn't be political.

The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of --------- and 52 percent of --------. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible.

henryn said:

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Well, "they" rank Canada #1, and Canada is pretty close and available, but I sure don't see many people clamoring to move there from the U.S. Maybe those rankings depend on who is doing the ranking, who you ask, what your critera is, and what your agenda is.

Few people move for a little better standard of living. They will move if it means having a much higher standard of living. And, it isn't as easy as it sounds, you just don't get let into Canada because you want to go there...there is a process and it is a difficult one, in the same way people can't just apply and they will be let into the U.S.A.

btw.....getting access to healthcare without it wiping you out financially isn't the same as being given a free car. I don't use the healthcare system that much fortunately for me, but, I am glad my friends, relatives, family etc. have access to medical care, and never have to worry about how they will pay for it.

Certainly free health care and free cars are not the same...but they are examples of what many people would support if proposed by government, which is how I used them.

Agree people would vote for someone who offered them a "free" car, they think there are no costs involved. But, healthcare is a different concept.........a country should strive to look after all it's citizens basic needs - healthcare is a basic need just as shelter and eating are basic needs...free car, not so much.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy.

Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

Oh, great. AND... I just read that 7 million Americans are now, as we speak 90 days or more late on their car payments. Let's see....I figure that that's.... a possible 1/4 billion default.

EDIT--my math obviously stinks---quick, somebody, what's 7 million X $35,000 ??

fintail

Probably uncool to confuse social democracy with textbook socialism.

Is there a major first world nation that coddles the top few more than the US? Trickle down hasn't worked. The lucky demographics sure get upset about this.

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

fintail

Big mouth, leering eyes, overstyling, yet it is an appliance my mom would buy.

driver100 said:

They sure uglied that one up....and narrow slits for front windshield....soon there won't be a car left that I will want to buy.

dino001

driver100 said:

Product Specialist Fee..........how do they come up with this stuff?
They used to be called salesmen. New title.....and now you have to pay them.
You couldn't make this up even if you tried.

Hotels have "refrigerator and safe fee", even if you don't have one in the room. I heard someone said once "just call it f**you fee, at least you'll be honest".

fintail

And you still pay less for it than your counterpart south of the border, while statistically having a longer life expectancy. Weird how that works. It's almost like when there's not a middleman sucking out profits to expand already unjust fortunes, that people might benefit.

My aunt and uncle went through much of their nest egg earlier in the decade via this system. Probably wouldn't have happened in equally developed locations.

driver100 said:

Henryn, Thanks for sharing that information. It does make you think about what things are important and can add to your quality of life. Not having to pay a huge medical bill certainly is one of them. I pay much more for healthcare than what I get out of it in dollars...but, the security and peace of mind for me and others makes it worth it. I think of it as insurance...I pay a smaller amount in case of a major problem.

pensfan83

Mr_Shiftright said:

Oh, great. AND... I just read that 7 million Americans are now, as we speak 90 days or more late on their car payments. Let's see....I figure that that's.... a possible 1/4 billion default.

I read that as well. After seeing the loan terms people are willing to accept to drive their dream vehicle I can't even say I'm surprised.

Michaell

Auto Extremist had a column on that earlier this week. The price of trucks and SUVs are rising so rapidly that hardly anyone can afford them without lengthy loan terms.

Might signal a return to more affordable vehicles - like, gasp, sedans and such.

Mr_Shiftright

I think these defaults signal the very real fact that despite what the "Dow" is doing, or what numbers are released for "job growth", those numbers aren't as important as the one number nobody talks about---the average American's income-to-debt ratio.

That, IMO, is a true indicator of a person's, or family's economic health.

Obviously, when that ratio gets too far out of whack, you have defaults.

driver100

Michaell said:

Auto Extremist had a column on that earlier this week. The price of trucks and SUVs are rising so rapidly that hardly anyone can afford them without lengthy loan terms.

Might signal a return to more affordable vehicles - like, gasp, sedans and such.

....or more work for the repo man.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
If you scroll to the bottom of the link, you will see the fees. I'm pretty sure every dealer has this in their links to their inventory.
https://www.shakerslincoln.com/new/Lincoln/2018-Lincoln-Continental-watertown-ct-e7277aff0a0e0ae9553eaaa606b7d26f.htm?searchDepth=1:12

snakeweasel

cdnpinhead said:

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You realize as soon as you posted "blank" it's no longer blank.

explorerx4

@ab348, @driver100,
How about supporting the home team?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/canadas-answer-to-tesla-is-a-dollar15500-electric-three-wheeler/ar-BBTvsAS?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=DELLDHP

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

bwia said:

Now that's a real hybrid. A cardinal that appears to be half male and half female roosts in a backyard in Erie, Pa. Its left side is the taupe shade of female cardinals; its right, the signature scarlet of males.
Researchers believe that the cardinal is a rare bilateral gynandromorph, half male and half female. (NYT)

I saw that on TV last week.

Whoever said mother nature doesn't have a sense of humor is wrong or maybe they said, cruel. I can't remember now since I wasn't there.

jmonroe

It's God that has a sense of humor, that's why we have duckbilled platypus, giraffes, Ben Affleck and Cleveland.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

Yes but we are likely on the forefront on those and they could be our response.

"The combined armies of Europe cannot by force take one drink from the Ohio river, if we are to be destroyed it will be from within." - Abraham Lincoln. I am sure that is as true today as it was when Lincoln said it.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

That is if old crude methods of war are used. What about sound waves, mind control, contaminating drinking water, drones, intercontinental missiles? Often it is done in a way no one ever planned for.

Gee, that's really interesting. I'm beginning to think that type of warfare has already been imposed on Canada and you are a test case.

jmonroe

Yeh, I got rayed with waves that enhanced my intelligence.

Yeah but that's in Canadian IQ points, how much is it after conversion?

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

houdini2 said:

houdini2 said:

driver100 said:

fintail said:

Weirdly enough, Canada has higher life expectancy (by 3 years), and exponentially smaller risk of losing everything you worked for due to a tragic medical diagnosis - all while spending less per capita. No system is perfect and no doubt there are issues there, but I don't personally know any Canadians (or anyone else in the developed world) demanding an American style system. I wonder why that is.

ab348 said:

Fin, the health care system here is run by govt, not just paid for by them, which makes a huge difference in how it performs. You have all of the problems of a massive bureaucracy and the resultant lack of flexibility, productivity and accountability that goes with that. Plus there is never enough money to keep up with the tech or even to maintain facilities properly, while closing some outdated facilities in locations that have been left behind by the population is tantamount to unthinkable.

You may not face medical bankruptcy here, but you may well die or have quality of life severely limited before that could happen anyway because of lack of proper and timely treatment. There is no free lunch.

I removed the parties so it wouldn't be political.

The vast majority of Americans, 70 percent, now support Medicare-for-all, otherwise known as single-payer health care, according to a new Reuters survey. That includes 85 percent of --------- and 52 percent of --------. Only 20 percent of Americans say they outright oppose the idea.

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible.

henryn said:

houdini2 said:

Of course they do. Everybody likes to get something that someone else has to pay for. That is the way they see it, unfortunately it wouldn't turn our that way. That same 70% would also support a "free new car" every couple of years, but that doesn't mean it's possible. They would also support raising taxes on everyone who made over $300,000. a year because they wouldn't have to pay, someone else would. No matter how you dress it up or disguise it, socialism always fails.

Really? Seems to be working pretty well in Norway and Sweden.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

Well, "they" rank Canada #1, and Canada is pretty close and available, but I sure don't see many people clamoring to move there from the U.S. Maybe those rankings depend on who is doing the ranking, who you ask, what your critera is, and what your agenda is.

Few people move for a little better standard of living. They will move if it means having a much higher standard of living. And, it isn't as easy as it sounds, you just don't get let into Canada because you want to go there...there is a process and it is a difficult one, in the same way people can't just apply and they will be let into the U.S.A.

btw.....getting access to healthcare without it wiping you out financially isn't the same as being given a free car. I don't use the healthcare system that much fortunately for me, but, I am glad my friends, relatives, family etc. have access to medical care, and never have to worry about how they will pay for it.

Certainly free health care and free cars are not the same...but they are examples of what many people would support if proposed by government, which is how I used them.

Agree people would vote for someone who offered them a "free" car, they think there are no costs involved. But, healthcare is a different concept.........a country should strive to look after all it's citizens basic needs - healthcare is a basic need just as shelter and eating are basic needs...free car, not so much.

So are you saying the government should provide people's shelter and food?

Mr_Shiftright

explorerx4 said:

@ab348, @driver100,
How about supporting the home team?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/canadas-answer-to-tesla-is-a-dollar15500-electric-three-wheeler/ar-BBTvsAS?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=DELLDHP

Alas, they are making the same tragic error that Segway did. No matter how good it actually may be, one still looks like a dork driving it.

snakeweasel

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy.

Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

Oh, great. AND... I just read that 7 million Americans are now, as we speak 90 days or more late on their car payments. Let's see....I figure that that's.... a possible 1/4 billion default.

A 1/4 billion total default by 7 million people would be an average default of $35.71.

cdnpinhead

snakeweasel said:

Yeah but that's in Canadian IQ points, how much is it after conversion?

Hey now. . .

Mr_Shiftright

snakeweasel said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy.

Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

Oh, great. AND... I just read that 7 million Americans are now, as we speak 90 days or more late on their car payments. Let's see....I figure that that's.... a possible 1/4 billion default.

A 1/4 billion total default by 7 million people would be an average default of $35.71.

Oops....moved the decimal point. I was thinking 7 million people with a total payoff of $35,000. Of course, we'd have to calculate the recovered amounts after repo.

Mr_Shiftright

Sooooo.....7 million X $35,000 is a.......Big Number to be flushing down the toilet......

snakeweasel

explorerx4 said:

@ab348, @driver100,
How about supporting the home team?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/canadas-answer-to-tesla-is-a-dollar15500-electric-three-wheeler/ar-BBTvsAS?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=DELLDHP

Leave it to the Canadians to try to modernize the Messerschmitt.

snakeweasel

Mr_Shiftright said:

snakeweasel said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy.

Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

Oh, great. AND... I just read that 7 million Americans are now, as we speak 90 days or more late on their car payments. Let's see....I figure that that's.... a possible 1/4 billion default.

A 1/4 billion total default by 7 million people would be an average default of $35.71.

Oops....moved the decimal point. I was thinking 7 million people with a total payoff of $35,000. Of course, we'd have to calculate the recovered amounts after repo.

What are these 7 million people driving? 35 grand each seems high.

Mr_Shiftright

They should rename it Death Wish Motors

"And in THIS corner, we have......"

venture

So close.

And in other news - my neighbor two houses down was shoveling his driveway this morning, in 32 degree weather...in shorts and flip flops.

stickguy

I never cease to be amazed that people actually, intentionally, park up against the cart corral. I stay as far away from those dens of evil as possible.

I also police the loose carts in the area near my car too for them. I should bill the stores for my time.

one of the best things about shopping at Aldi. No carts in the lot to dent your car! you have to put a quarter in to get one, and no matter how lazy people are, and overall they are really lazy, will still take their cart back to the front of the store to get their quarter back.

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

I heard an advertisement on TV the other day. They have tax preparers on site, bring in your tax papers, whatever refund you get they will double it and apply it to a new vehicle that you buy. Could be risky for them. Your refund is for $7000....you can apply $14000 discount to a new Camry...but our price for that Camry just went from $25000 to $40,000. Actually, I believe the small print gave a limit.

I was going to have HR Block do my taxes this year - they wanted $195 for the Standard Deduction EZ filing.  So my best friend got his Turbo Tax software and offered to do my taxes for me.  So I sat down with him and in 20 minutes, it was filed.

BTW, my tax refund was deposited into my account this morning.  10 business days was all it took to get the refund.  Truly amazing turn-around time.

We charge $98 for just the basic 1040 (EZ no longer exists). Now the one thing you have to remember is what will turbo tax or your friend do for you in case they made a mistake?

Shoot the computer with a shotgun!

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

A friend of ours went to work for a tax office of the national franchise type and at the occasional ;unch get togethers of retirees she was telling how the fee schedules and the scams worked. I sat there with my jaw dropped.

Tax preparation is normally charged per form, how much they charge per for is determined by the owner of the tax prep place. Many of the chain locations do charge very high fees, when I see them I am shocked. Our fees are pretty much the lowest and the owner is under pressure from corporate to i crease fees.

That being said you have to remember that a tax office typically has 3 months of income but 12 months of rent, utilities and other expenses. To be fair if we charged $100 per return we would not be in business next year.

I was wondering if I should have someone do my taxes this year as I hate doing it myself worse than a hot poker in the eye but after hearing what the possible cost would be I guess I’ll just keep doing them myself. Family knows to stay clear of me at that time.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
If you scroll to the bottom of the link, you will see the fees. I'm pretty sure every dealer has this in their links to their inventory.
https://www.shakerslincoln.com/new/Lincoln/2018-Lincoln-Continental-watertown-ct-e7277aff0a0e0ae9553eaaa606b7d26f.htm?searchDepth=1:12

Thanks for that heads up. I checked the site I was looking at and found a $600 doc fee. I was wondering how they could beat the local guys. No free lunch.

oldfarmer50

Mr_Shiftright said:

They should rename it Death Wish Motors

"And in THIS corner, we have......"

I have driven those and they are beasts! They have a turbo gauge on the dash so you can figure how fast you’re towing your house.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
I think that dealer is pretty unique locally how they structure the fees, but you need to look at the fine print.
The dealer where I bought my last few vehicles built a nice new facility.
The doc fee went up $100, so I know how they are paying for it.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

I never cease to be amazed that people actually, intentionally, park up against the cart corral. I stay as far away from those dens of evil as possible.

I also police the loose carts in the area near my car too for them. I should bill the stores for my time.

one of the best things about shopping at Aldi. No carts in the lot to dent your car! you have to put a quarter in to get one, and no matter how lazy people are, and overall they are really lazy, will still take their cart back to the front of the store to get their quarter back.

I bring my cart back into the store especially if it’s less distance than to the corral. Once one of the kids in the lot must have thought I was running away with it and told me I had to leave it in the parking lot. Doing a good deed seemed foreign to him I guess.

andres3

snakeweasel said:

andres3 said:

I think any data regarding motor vehicle collisions or fatalities not equalized for miles driven is skewed and potentially inaccurate.

You can die in an accident at 1 MPH if you are a pedestrian getting your head crushed.

Going by miles driven can be skewed and inaccurate too. Increasing speed does increase risk of a fatal accident, simple physics should tell you that. In say Washington D.C. the vast majority of driving is done at slow speeds resulting in less severe accidents which results in less severe injuries which results in less fatalities. However in say Montana where more miles are driven at higher speeds the opposite would be true.

The problem is your assumption and premise is incorrect. Yes, increasing the speed of a collision does increase the chances of having a fatality. However, that DOES NOT translate into increased speeds increasing risk of a fatal accident. The main reason for that is that you first have to have an accident, for an accident to be relevant. If less collisions happen at higher speeds, then your chances of being involved in one decrease. Less collisions decreases your risk of having a fatality. This is why both air travel and high speed roadways tend to be the safest. There are other reasons, but this is what it boils down to.

Then of course there are the side reasons why going faster is safer, which seem to outweigh the "physics" factor, which is why you don't like a straight-forward mathematical and objective equalizer of per miles traveled/driven.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

I never cease to be amazed that people actually, intentionally, park up against the cart corral. I stay as far away from those dens of evil as possible.

I also police the loose carts in the area near my car too for them. I should bill the stores for my time.

one of the best things about shopping at Aldi. No carts in the lot to dent your car! you have to put a quarter in to get one, and no matter how lazy people are, and overall they are really lazy, will still take their cart back to the front of the store to get their quarter back.

I drive an 11 year old car with over 133k miles, I don't worry about loose shopping carts.

imidazol97

I had a large toyota SUV pulling out of ChickFilA drive thru exit in front of me as I was leaving the parking lot. Slowly. She was talking on a phone. Totally engrossed. She wasn't clearing the lane so the car behind could pull up if it finished its pickup. Didn't look to the side to see if cars were coming (Exit has a stop sign.) Etc..

Guess what state the plates were from...Washington. I wondered if this was one of the driver's Fintail mentions. If she actually lives here she has 60 days to register her vehicle and learn to drive Ohio style. She may be military or college related.

tjc78

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqYWoyJ7aU

Wow.  ****warning****lots of foul language but amazing video