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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298

    mjfloyd1 said:

    andres3 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Probably adds 20 hp

    Something that resembles a Type R Civic wing must add 35 HP.
    That’s gotta be at least 50 hp
    Why bother with a motor? Just keep adding spoilers....and maybe a fart can.
    Don't forget yellow spark plug wires for a quick 10 hp gain.

    Too bad Edelbrock doesn't make a chrome air cleaner for it. :smile:

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Indiana University health is one of the systems to provide vaccinations. Due to my job, I was in the first group to be offered a vaccination. Also helpful due to my own health (or lack thereof) history.

    First round goes to healthcare workers and nursing homes as I understand it.

    Pfizer second shot 21 days later. Moderna is 28 days


    How did they inform you of your eligibility and when/where to get the vaccine?
    Oops. I looked again and email was from Indiana State Department of Health
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    Back in 2002 I entered my Club Sport in a car show sponsored by a local publishing company. The only other car entered in the import class was an Eclipse. The owner displayed it with the hood up to show off the new white spark plug wires. The problem was that the motor was filthy and the wires had greasy fingerprints all over them. I don’t know why he bothered.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Back in 2002 I entered my Club Sport in a car show sponsored by a local publishing company. The only other car entered in the import class was an Eclipse. The owner displayed it with the hood up to show off the new white spark plug wires. The problem was that the motor was filthy and the wires had greasy fingerprints all over them. I don’t know why he bothered.

    He knew he would come in at least 2nd.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    mjfloyd1 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    andres3 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Probably adds 20 hp

    Something that resembles a Type R Civic wing must add 35 HP.
    That’s gotta be at least 50 hp
    Why bother with a motor? Just keep adding spoilers....and maybe a fart can.
    Good idea but not having a motor means the VTEC won’t kick in. YO
    That can be fixed by slapping a VTEC sticker on it. Just ask the Toyota guy I saw with one.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    Mufflers with wide exhaust tips - 20 hp.
    hood with a scoop - 50 hp.
    Side air vents - 25 hp

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123
    RE: Wheeler-Dealer...

    In reality, they lost me even when Ed was still involved. More often than not, Mike talked condescendingly towards both Ed and “Ant” in many of the show’s episodes. Really left a bad taste.

    Moving it back to the U.K.? I dunno. Is Ed coming back? I really liked “Ant” and found him knowledgeable and entertaining. I just liked Ed’s more “no-nonsense” approach.
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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    I took the car in for an oil service a few days ago. I just noticed on the reminder sticker they put on the windshield says the next one should be in 5,000 miles. That's the first time it didn't say 3,000 miles.

    Oh...the headlights were not turned off when they were finished. They turned them on...instead of Auto. :o

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405

    RE: Wheeler-Dealer...

    In reality, they lost me even when Ed was still involved. More often than not, Mike talked condescendingly towards both Ed and “Ant” in many of the show’s episodes. Really left a bad taste.

    Moving it back to the U.K.? I dunno. Is Ed coming back? I really liked “Ant” and found him knowledgeable and entertaining. I just liked Ed’s more “no-nonsense” approach.

    Edd is never coming back. They got a new guy instead. Someone I never heard of, but must be known on Youtube (and I think worked on Formula one maybe)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWqY0mksZ0

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,672
    stickguy said:

    RE: Wheeler-Dealer...

    In reality, they lost me even when Ed was still involved. More often than not, Mike talked condescendingly towards both Ed and “Ant” in many of the show’s episodes. Really left a bad taste.

    Moving it back to the U.K.? I dunno. Is Ed coming back? I really liked “Ant” and found him knowledgeable and entertaining. I just liked Ed’s more “no-nonsense” approach.

    Edd is never coming back. They got a new guy instead. Someone I never heard of, but must be known on Youtube (and I think worked on Formula one maybe)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWqY0mksZ0
    Mike and Elvis have worked together, before. UK based show where they help someone obtain their "dream" car, by taking their current ride and whatever money they can chip in. Mike trades up, and Elvis fixes the car to make a profit.

    Was interesting, in that Mike would go in some pretty strange directions - made one deal to obtain 6 to 8 motorcycles, each of which turned a tidy profit for him. Also traded for a couple of RVs and took a blank van and turned it into a food truck.

    And yes, Elvis was part of an F1 team at some point in his career.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    dino001 said:

    Mufflers with wide exhaust tips - 20 hp.
    hood with a scoop - 50 hp.
    Side air vents - 25 hp

    https://youtu.be/ZsYMJWetyYA

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    ab348 said:

    This episode epitomized the problem with the latest series of the show..

    Wheeler Dealers went down the hole when: 1) they moved to the U.S. and 2) the tall man left, he who could take apart anything and put it back together, plus he was a wizard welder. I haven't watched the show in years, but I do miss the old approach.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,405
    I agree that moving to the US was not the best idea, but I ended up liking Ant too. But they did spend too much time on some of the silly stuff, and the test drives.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    stickguy said:

    I agree that moving to the US was not the best idea, but I ended up liking Ant too. But they did spend too much time on some of the silly stuff, and the test drives.

    Stick, I agree with you - they spent too much time trying to “entertain” the viewers with their end-of-show shenanigans. They no longer understand those of us who used to watch the show to see the skills the mechanics used to solve problems.

    Mike is a “showman” and the real “wheeler-dealer” in his approach to interacting with sellers and potential buyers.

    I liked the old show because they spent more time on the “fixing and welding” than showmanship! 🤓

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347
    TV shows that my son(and sometimes my wife) have been enjoying- in no particular order:

    Picard
    The Mandalorian- better than than any SW movies save Episodes IV, V, and Rogue One
    Roadkill
    Big Sky
    Your Honor My son thinks Bryan Cranston's Judge Desiato shares my judicial demeanor
    Gangs of London
    Bosch

    In a lighter vein, my wife and I are fond of Death in Paradise and Shakespeare and Hathaway

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298

    ab348 said:

    This episode epitomized the problem with the latest series of the show..

    Wheeler Dealers went down the hole when: 1) they moved to the U.S. and 2) the tall man left, he who could take apart anything and put it back together, plus he was a wizard welder. I haven't watched the show in years, but I do miss the old approach.
    It is hard to tell for sure with all the make-believe and the unseen cast of off-screen mechanics and helpers, but I think Ant is every bit as good a mechanic if not better than Edd ever was. But Edd, when he was still fully into the show (so excepting the last year or two he was on when he seemed mentally checked-out some of the time) was a better explainer/demonstrator and engaged with the audience better in terms of showing how a repair needed to be done. That may be because in those earlier shows he actually needed to do a lot of that sort of thing himself instead of having it done by others off-camera. Ant seems to be a very good metal fabricator and welder. I watched a new ep yesterday where they got a Fiat X1/9 and he had to repair a rusted windshield channel section. If he actually did what they showed, the guy knows how to do that.

    I think the issue with moving to the US was that the producers also changed at that time, and the result was more Brewer antics in the name of entertainment.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    edited December 2020
    We just got hit by Gail overnight. (We have been naming our storms in the north just like the southerners name their Hurricanes.) We just got a dusting. The initial forcasts started out to be "white death" type forcasts but quickly changed.

    But I don't know whether to be happy or sad, because those of you further to the east from Ohio are going to dumped on as this Gail organizers her gale-force winds and dumps 1-2 feet in the drastic forcasts.

    Snow shovel alert...



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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,225
    edited December 2020

    TV shows that my son(and sometimes my wife) have been enjoying- in no particular order:

    Picard
    The Mandalorian- better than than any SW movies save Episodes IV, V, and Rogue One
    Roadkill
    Big Sky
    Your Honor My son thinks Bryan Cranston's Judge Desiato shares my judicial demeanor
    Gangs of London
    Bosch

    In a lighter vein, my wife and I are fond of Death in Paradise and Shakespeare and Hathaway

    I’ve never seen anything on your first list except Roadkill. Must be from some streaming service. On the English shows my wife loves the last two but I’m more partial to Midsomer Murders or Father Brown.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,225
    edited December 2020

    We just got hit by Gail overnight. (We have been naming our storms in the north just like the southerners name their Hurricanes.) We just got a dusting. The initial forcasts started out to be "white death" type forcasts but quickly changed.

    But I don't know whether to be happy or sad, because those of you further to the east from Ohio are going to dumped on as this Gail organizers her gale-force winds and dumps 1-2 feet in the drastic forcasts.

    Snow shovel alert...



    What are going to do with your stockpile of bread and milk now? They up the predicted snowfall amounts fro 3” to possible 14” so I’m sure the panic will ensue.

    Edit: I see the NJ governor is on the tube right now going all in on the fear mongering. You’d think snow was some sort of strange alien invasion in the north. However, if somebody stumbles in from the cold without a face mask store owners are being told to throw them back out into the snow. Yikes!

    I expect our governor and many local politicians to be spreading the doom and gloom soon.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    We've had maybe 0.3 inch since 3 am EST. But it looks like Pittsburg and south into the icy Appalachians on east are gonna get it.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    edited December 2020
    Some people thrive in this kind of weather. Ohio River, Cincinnati.
    Did anyone on our forum walk across the frozen river in 1977 (or 1978)?






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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    I am right on the line where we could get all rain or buried in white stuff.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited December 2020
    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,979
    qbrozen said:

    I am right on the line where we could get all rain or buried in white stuff.

    Looks like @stickguy and I are going to miss most of it. Doesn’t really matter ... not like I go anywhere anyway these days.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    We are getting our share of rain, mid thirties outside. As I took the day off to do some work outside, well a crimp in my planning.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,349

    We've had maybe 0.3 inch since 3 am EST. But it looks like Pittsburg and south into the icy Appalachians on east are gonna get it.

    I’m 10 miles east of the Burgh and it’s started already. About 5 minutes ago there were a few scattered flakes. Now it’s a lot more and the flakes are a lot bigger. Since this seems to be East of Ohio, why don’t you deliver some TP, bread and milk and head on back before the winds change.😳

    jmonroe
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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,188
    Predicting 10"-18" here south of Boston. Jag's going in at noon for oil change/tire rotation and general inspections. So, should be done well before the liquid gold starts falling from the skies. Will park it in my condo garage and fiance will pick me up, bring me back to her place so I can help shovel as required. Yeah, help.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,349

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather. Ohio River, Cincinnati.
    Did anyone on our forum walk across in 1977 (or 1978).






    In that top pic, that little guy on the left, cowering behind his mother looks like @graphicguy.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,979
    I’m hoping the rain changeover melts most of it. I’m not looking forward to shoveling the much larger driveway and walk at the new house.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,298
    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:
    Nah, most of us hate the cold and pine to go someplace warm in the winters.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,439
    View from my home office desk yesterday - warming up again for the next week-10 days, so it will be a slushy mess - but I sense snow on the horizon. Bring it on! This reminds me of childhood winters in the Columbia Basin, I still get excited about snow.


  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:
    Not me....I want to be in Florida. Doing OK though, can play tennis in the bubble 3 times a week, and we now play Winter Pickleball. As long as the temperature is about 30F or more, and there is only a light wind, and no snow on the ground, and no puddles, we can play. Yesterday I played and I had 5 layers on....took off my jacket after awhile....not bad!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:
    Nah, most of us hate the cold and pine to go someplace warm in the winters.
    They estimate 30% of the Canadians who head south for the winter will still go. Half a million go to Florida other years. You can't cross the border on foot, by car or by boat, so the ones who go are flying. Travel insurance covers us for covid....but, the logistics of trying to get care or getting back if we got it would be difficult, so we are staying here even though temps around 32F are ridiculous.

    Niagara Falls has frozen a few times....one of the most famous times was 1911:

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    snow just started here. i thought it was supposed to start with rain. sigh.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    jmonroe1 said:

    We've had maybe 0.3 inch since 3 am EST. But it looks like Pittsburg and south into the icy Appalachians on east are gonna get it.

    I’m 10 miles east of the Burgh and it’s started already. About 5 minutes ago there were a few scattered flakes. Now it’s a lot more and the flakes are a lot bigger. Since this seems to be East of Ohio, why don’t you deliver some TP, bread and milk and head on back before the winds change.😳

    jmonroe
    I'll put them on the truck right away.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,349
    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:
    Nah, most of us hate the cold and pine to go someplace warm in the winters.
    They estimate 30% of the Canadians who head south for the winter will still go. Half a million go to Florida other years. You can't cross the border on foot, by car or by boat, so the ones who go are flying. Travel insurance covers us for covid....but, the logistics of trying to get care or getting back if we got it would be difficult, so we are staying here even though temps around 32F are ridiculous.

    Niagara Falls has frozen a few times....one of the most famous times was 1911:

    Where’s your racket?😗

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    fintail said:

    View from my home office desk yesterday - warming up again for the next week-10 days, so it will be a slushy mess - but I sense snow on the horizon. Bring it on! This reminds me of childhood winters in the Columbia Basin, I still get excited about snow.


    Beautiful.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    I always wanted to go back to the Niagara Falls to see it when there was lots of ice. That one will never
    happen most likely.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,073
    Snow — no thank you!
    We really have been enjoying The Mandalorian as well.
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,347

    TV shows that my son(and sometimes my wife) have been enjoying- in no particular order:

    Picard
    The Mandalorian- better than than any SW movies save Episodes IV, V, and Rogue One
    Roadkill
    Big Sky
    Your Honor My son thinks Bryan Cranston's Judge Desiato shares my judicial demeanor
    Gangs of London
    Bosch

    In a lighter vein, my wife and I are fond of Death in Paradise and Shakespeare and Hathaway

    I’ve never seen anything on your first list except Roadkill. Must be from some streaming service. On the English shows my wife loves the last two but I’m more partial to Midsomer Murders or Father Brown.
    I was hoping Roadkill would be picked up for a second season.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,349
    I should have known.

    I got a call from Son #1 about 2 hours ago that this is the day for the carpet install in the basement at the flip. Got a husband wife team this time and they were hard at work and didn’t notice that we already got about 2 inches and it’s a rear entry garage. So, I went down and asked the husband if he wanted to move his van out before it got worse. Typical a guy, he said “I’ll do it a little later”. His wife looks at the accumulation and said, “you’ll do it NOW. I don’t want to be stranded here”. He just moved his van. I know who the boss of that crew is. Not really all that surprised. I decided to move the Subie too. The van had a little trouble but no problem for the Subie.

    Bring it on. I want to see how good that grocery getter is in this stuff.😀

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,190
    @imidazol97 Yes, my friends and I walked across the river (18 yrs old). I wouldn't have brought my dog, though. :o

    Also, swam across it, though not in January, 1977.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    Wow. I'm impressed. I know a lot of people did walk across.

    Did someone drive a car across one of those years?

    Swimming across!

    I am afraid of rivers and creeks with their ice that may be thin in spots due to undercurrents. Two brothers a couple miles from where I lived drowned walking the ice in a creek on their farm when I was in high school and they were a few years younger.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,190

    Wow. I'm impressed. I know a lot of people did walk across.

    Did someone drive a car across one of those years?

    Swimming across!

    I am afraid of rivers and creeks with their ice that may be thin in spots due to undercurrents. Two brothers a couple miles from where I lived drowned walking the ice in a creek on their farm when I was in high school and they were a few years younger.

    Yeah, we saw cars on it.. no tragedies, but shewww...

    It's not that far to swim, if you are sober. It's the boat traffic and debris you have to watch out for.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,678
    You know it's a bad day when your weinermobile is in the ditch. Ketchup please.


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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Some people thrive in this kind of weather.

    Loony people, mostly. :wink:
    Aka Canadians? :wink:
    Oh that's why they have a loon on their coins. I've always wondered about that.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,672
    qbrozen said:

    snow just started here. i thought it was supposed to start with rain. sigh.

    That's probably for the best - that way, you won't have ice underneath it all.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,743
    edited December 2020
    When I went to school in the Burlington VT area, there used to be car races on Lake Champlain when it iced over.
    Also, drunk people driving on it at might.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    Wow. I'm impressed. I know a lot of people did walk across.

    Did someone drive a car across one of those years?

    Swimming across!

    I am afraid of rivers and creeks with their ice that may be thin in spots due to undercurrents. Two brothers a couple miles from where I lived drowned walking the ice in a creek on their farm when I was in high school and they were a few years younger.

    When I was in the service my first duty station was at the mouth of a river and during winter time we did a lot of walking on the ice. When we did it we took with us a long boat hook and placed it across our chests with our arms over the pole. That way if you broke through the pole would stop you from going all the way through the ice.

    We did a few ice rescues when I was there, you defiantly don't want to be the junior guy on that crew.

    One of our rights of passage was that in the spring after the river began flowing freely and there was still Ice in the river we would get into wet suits go into the river and float down the river into the lake then return via the beach. You want to talk cold try that.

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