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  • drhkulkarnidrhkulkarni Member Posts: 10
    edited April 6
    stickguy said:

    So it isn’t actually a trade? Unclear if you would get a sales tax credit. And some states (such as NJ) don’t give the credit when trading in a leased car anyway.

    But you still come out ahead if you get out of the lease early (fewer payments), and won’t have to pay the disposition fee which will probably he higher than the difference Tesla is giving you. And of course, no damage penalties.

    Yes this is what I am thinking...I think the damage penalties is what probably skews it in this direction, nor the disposition fee (good point).

    The sense I get from Tesla is that I buy out the lease, then sell it to them (for a value that we have agreed upon). They take the trade in value off the new car price.

    A point of reference is that I am receiving $37,162 from Carvana. So I could make $2084 by selling it to Carvana, and then finance the Tesla between 1-2% APR (private financing) without any money leaving my bank OR trade the car into Tesla for about $300 lesser and potentially get the final price of the Tesla lower *(and thus have lower sales tax).
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,942
    If you are buying it out you will not pay the disposable fee or for damage, but you will pay sales tax (and possibly some DMV costs). The trade credit would offset the tax, but in this situation, you might as well shop it to Carvana and Carmax too. At least that way you don’t have to deal with buying it out.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • coldinohiocoldinohio Member Posts: 158
    abacomike said:

    Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy at the outpatient wing of the Broward Medical Center in Coral Springs. My friend is picking me up and driving me home. Got clearance from my cardiologist yesterday.

    The colonoscopy itself is easy-peasy - but from 3:00 PM this afternoon until 1:00 PM tomorrow, not only do I have to refrain from food, but the chemicals I have to swallow and the aftermath is a true misery, as all of you know! This is something I have been able to avoid for 6-7 years - but my doctor finally realized it’s been over 5 years since my last experience which he was not happy with. So I am now being punished!

    All kidding aside, I realize this is a necessary part of life especially since I am a liver cancer survivor and my mother had colon cancer. At least I can catch up on all the posts while “throning” every few hours. 🤪😜

    Colon Blow--- prep is the worst!!!

    good luck
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,114
    Two colonoscopies here in the last year. I recommend you fasten your seatbelt and keep your toilet lids in their upright and locked position.
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  • drhkulkarnidrhkulkarni Member Posts: 10
    stickguy said:

    If you are buying it out you will not pay the disposable fee or for damage, but you will pay sales tax (and possibly some DMV costs). The trade credit would offset the tax, but in this situation, you might as well shop it to Carvana and Carmax too. At least that way you don’t have to deal with buying it out.


    Yeah - Carvana is offering 2K extra for the car, while Tesla isn't offering anything in addition to the payoff price. So I suspect the difference on savings on the new car sales tax will be a wash, especially if you are saying that there would be sales tax on buying out the leased car, and DMV costs. Isn't the sales tax usually incorporated into the payoff price?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,942
    Depends on how they gave you the number. If it does, then Tesla offer might still be better. I would just break it down on a quick spreadsheet to see if the tax credit makes that the best option.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy. At least I can catch up on all the posts while “throning” every few hours. 🤪😜

    Good luck Mike....I feel for you. Wish they could make that liquid taste like a fine wine, beer or at least a chocolate milkshake. The good news is once it is done you will have 5 years before another one....and you can get all the latest late breaking posts while on the throne.

    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe
    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.

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  • drhkulkarnidrhkulkarni Member Posts: 10
    edited April 6
    stickguy said:

    Depends on how they gave you the number. If it does, then Tesla offer might still be better. I would just break it down on a quick spreadsheet to see if the tax credit makes that the best option.

    The other hidden cost here is that I would use 30K out of my bank to buy out the Volvo, and then would take a loan of only 20K on the Tesla, whereas if I sold to carvana, I would take a loan on the 50K. With rates at around 1.5-1.7% APR, it may be worth taking full loan...
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    @drhkulkarni
    I think you need an accountant to figure this out! :)

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • drhkulkarnidrhkulkarni Member Posts: 10
    driver100 said:

    @drhkulkarni
    I think you need an accountant to figure this out! :)

    LOL :)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,490

    Mike....same drivetrain in my Stinger....just returned from FL, Gulf Coast. I was driving mainly interstate with 10% in town driving once I got into the city. Filled up when I got home yesterday. Averaged 30 MPG, which given I was set pretty steady at 80-85 MPH where traffic allowed, seems good given the drivetrain’s power and torque.

    I’ve got 16K miles on my Stinger, now. That’s the best MPG I’ve ever achieved.

    Give your G some time. Seems it gets better with the more miles you’ll put on it.

    How can you have the same drivetrain in your Stinger as @Mike has in his ‘almost a Bentley’. I’ll bet the engine shroud on @Mike’s car doesn’t say Kia. B)

    jmonroe
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  • jipsterjipster Louisville, KentuckyMember Posts: 6,091
    edited April 6
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy. At least I can catch up on all the posts while “throning” every few hours. 🤪😜

    Good luck Mike....I feel for you. Wish they could make that liquid taste like a fine wine, beer or at least a chocolate milkshake. The good news is once it is done you will have 5 years before another one....and you can get all the latest late breaking posts while on the throne.

    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe
    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
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  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,026
    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 196,148
    Since I don't drink hard liquor, what's the difference between whisky and bourbon? Just the distilling process?

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,817

    stickguy said:

    Depends on how they gave you the number. If it does, then Tesla offer might still be better. I would just break it down on a quick spreadsheet to see if the tax credit makes that the best option.

    The other hidden cost here is that I would use 30K out of my bank to buy out the Volvo, and then would take a loan of only 20K on the Tesla, whereas if I sold to carvana, I would take a loan on the 50K. With rates at around 1.5-1.7% APR, it may be worth taking full loan...

    IMO I’d take the higher offer from Carvana/Carmax/Vroom etc. Its the easiest option. They will cut you a check for the equity, payoff Volvo and you walk away.

    Then it’s up to you whether you put 30K down or finance the entire car. I’d put $5000 or so down and finance the rest with as low as rates are.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    @jipster @ronsteve Thanks guys.....today isn't a total write off, I learned something.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulMember Posts: 1,026
    Michaell said:

    Since I don't drink hard liquor, what's the difference between whisky and bourbon? Just the distilling process?

    Bottom Line: All bourbon is whisk(e)y, but not all whiskey is bourbon.

    Bourbon has to conform to a specific mash bill (51-79% corn, malted barley, and either wheat or rye), be aged in charred virgin oak barrels, and meet specific barrel proof thresholds (which I forget what they are).
    Some Scotch and Irish whisk(e)ys are aged in used bourbon barrels, but NEVER the other way around.

    Jack Daniels is a touchy subject, because when it comes out of the barrel it's filtered through maple, but other than that it's also technically a bourbon.
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,056
    driver100 said:

    I think what I was trying to say was if a guy owns a bmw, especially a bmw convertible, and IF he was looking at motorcycles - probably a very small percentage of car owners - he would probably be more prone to check out a bmw motorcycle.
    It's still a long shot but might target the advertising to the right person.

    Well my point is is that BMW in motorcycling doesn't carry the same weight as it does in automotive. Due to that there isn't a lot of crossing over between the two.

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWMember Posts: 3,181
    @drhkulkarni, I totally agree with what @stickguy said. I did just that with getting out of a lease early, years ago, and I haven’t regretted it at all. That said, by pulling the trigger soon, Congress may not have acted on restoring tax credits for Tesla’s which they are talking about doing. You would presumably still save sales tax with a trade-in vs. the tax of the whole cost of the car.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,056
    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy. At least I can catch up on all the posts while “throning” every few hours. 🤪😜

    Good luck Mike....I feel for you. Wish they could make that liquid taste like a fine wine, beer or at least a chocolate milkshake. The good news is once it is done you will have 5 years before another one....and you can get all the latest late breaking posts while on the throne.

    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe
    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    Well there is a lot produced in Tennessee that's not included in that figure because they call it Tennessee whiskey even though Tennessee whiskey is legally defined as a straight bourbon whiskey made in Tennessee.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,056
    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled for a colonoscopy. At least I can catch up on all the posts while “throning” every few hours. 🤪😜

    Good luck Mike....I feel for you. Wish they could make that liquid taste like a fine wine, beer or at least a chocolate milkshake. The good news is once it is done you will have 5 years before another one....and you can get all the latest late breaking posts while on the throne.

    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe
    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    No, bourbon can be made anywhere in the U.S. and can legally be called bourbon.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,060
    edited April 6
    @abacomike
    Last spring I had the faster prep that doesn't require drinking as much liquid. It's
    a polypropylene based liquid, a plastic in solution I guess. I may have the wrong name
    for the plastic, but it worked. Less to drink.

    They told me to come back in 3 years. The last time they said 5 years and last spring
    was my 5th year. I'm not sure why it was shortened unless it's to keep me under that
    80-year old figure. Nothing bad was found, but I did have some polyps.
    I hope you "come out clean" (no puns intended) on the results of your colonoscopy.
    Good news will be worth the awful effort.

    There's always the colonoscopy in a box that is heavily advertised here on the Judgy
    Judy show hours. My wife had to have that. You take a specimen, send it in,
    and they analyze it for DNA. Positives and
    negatives that are false are fairly high. If you get a positive then you have to have
    the real thing.

    If the nurses put on a CD in the scope room and tell you the doctor wants the Mexican
    fast music because he likes to dance while he's doing the colonoscopy, get up and leave.
    LOL. I went to sleep with this picture of the doctors and the assistants dancing while
    probing my innards. He retired before I had my next one. Great guy actually. Sense
    of humor.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Member Posts: 26,060
    Once again, the changes to the forum this time haven't resulted in users having trouble
    logging on or things not working. Remember all the problemaitc changes from many
    years ago.

    It's just the gray color used for the font or the choice
    of fonts that's not good.

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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,883

    @abacomike
    Last spring I had the faster prep that doesn't require drinking as much liquid. It's
    a polypropylene based liquid, a plastic in solution I guess. I may have the wrong name
    for the plastic, but it worked. Less to drink.

    They told me to come back in 3 years. The last time they said 5 years and last spring
    was my 5th year. I'm not sure why it was shortened unless it's to keep me under that
    80-year old figure. Nothing bad was found, but I did have some polyps.
    I hope you "come out clean" (no puns intended) on the results of your colonoscopy.
    Good news will be worth the awful effort.

    There's always the colonoscopy in a box that is heavily advertised here on the Judgy
    Judy show hours. My wife had to have that. You take a specimen, send it in,
    and they analyze it for DNA. Positives and
    negatives that are false are fairly high. If you get a positive then you have to have
    the real thing.

    If the nurses put on a CD in the scope room and tell you the doctor wants the Mexican
    fast music because he likes to dance while he's doing the colonoscopy, get up and leave.
    LOL. I went to sleep with this picture of the doctors and the assistants dancing while
    probing my innards. He retired before I had my next one. Great guy actually. Sense
    of humor.

    I am on the fast prep as you called it. I took 2 tablets at noon. Then at 5:00 PM, I mix Miralax in a half gallon of Crystal Lite lemonade and drink the entire mixture. Tomorrow morning at 7:00 AM I take half a bottle of this clear liquid with an 8 oz glass of water and prepare for the final assault, so to speak. They want me at the outpatient wing of the hospital at 1:00 PM and the procedure is scheduled for 3:00 PM. The nurse told me I would be under anesthesia for 20-25 minutes. They use propofol which is fast acting.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 43,942
    I hate a late slot. Better IMO to be first since you don’t get a good nights sleep anyway.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,056

    @abacomike
    Last spring I had the faster prep that doesn't require drinking as much liquid. It's
    a polypropylene based liquid, a plastic in solution I guess. I may have the wrong name
    for the plastic, but it worked. Less to drink.

    They told me to come back in 3 years. The last time they said 5 years and last spring
    was my 5th year. I'm not sure why it was shortened unless it's to keep me under that
    80-year old figure. Nothing bad was found, but I did have some polyps.
    I hope you "come out clean" (no puns intended) on the results of your colonoscopy.
    Good news will be worth the awful effort.

    There's always the colonoscopy in a box that is heavily advertised here on the Judgy
    Judy show hours. My wife had to have that. You take a specimen, send it in,
    and they analyze it for DNA. Positives and
    negatives that are false are fairly high. If you get a positive then you have to have
    the real thing.

    If the nurses put on a CD in the scope room and tell you the doctor wants the Mexican
    fast music because he likes to dance while he's doing the colonoscopy, get up and leave.
    LOL. I went to sleep with this picture of the doctors and the assistants dancing while
    probing my innards. He retired before I had my next one. Great guy actually. Sense
    of humor.

    Since they found polyps then they have you come back in three years, no polyps then it's five years.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • jipsterjipster Louisville, KentuckyMember Posts: 6,091
    edited April 6
    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 200,549

    stickguy said:

    Depends on how they gave you the number. If it does, then Tesla offer might still be better. I would just break it down on a quick spreadsheet to see if the tax credit makes that the best option.

    The other hidden cost here is that I would use 30K out of my bank to buy out the Volvo, and then would take a loan of only 20K on the Tesla, whereas if I sold to carvana, I would take a loan on the 50K. With rates at around 1.5-1.7% APR, it may be worth taking full loan...
    If you sell the Volvo, make sure you they are actually buying the car, and not turning it back into VCFS on your behalf. If you have a better deal from Carvana, and don't have to worry about timing, I'd jump on that in a minute.

    It's also possible that you have a purchase option fee on your lease, if you decide to buy it out.

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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    Only here can you have a discussion about trading in a Volvo for a Tesla, the difference between whiskey and bourbon, and prepping for a colonoscopy - all on one page. :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,041
    I got troubles in river city.

    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.

    Well, it turns out this didn’t happen at the market. My son confessed he had some friends over in his basement man-cave and one of the girls tipped over the recliner backwards and landed on the car door.

    $800 at my go-to guy.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,883
    driver100 said:

    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(
    Please don’t tell us what you do touch - spare us! 🤪😜🤓

    2021 Genesis G90

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,883

    I got troubles in river city.

    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.

    Well, it turns out this didn’t happen at the market. My son confessed he had some friends over in his basement man-cave and one of the girls tipped over the recliner backwards and landed on the car door.

    $800 at my go-to guy.

    Ouch! It sure took a long time for him to fess up, but at least he finally came clean.

    2021 Genesis G90

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713

    I got troubles in river city.

    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.

    Well, it turns out this didn’t happen at the market. My son confessed he had some friends over in his basement man-cave and one of the girls tipped over the recliner backwards and landed on the car door.

    $800 at my go-to guy.

    Ouch! That hurts.....does it come out of your son's allowance? Hope the girl doesn't sue over the unsafe recliner.
    Then there is the time....and sometimes they have to keep it overnight if paint is involved, oh man, I feel for you and Mike tonight.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    edited April 6
    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(
    Please don’t tell us what you do touch - spare us! 🤪😜🤓
    OK, I'll spare you, but about the only thing I drink is the cheapest alcoholic drink you can buy (not because it is cheap, but because that's all I prefer).

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,523
    @oldfarmer50,
    Get a quote from a paintless dent removal place.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,490
    driver100 said:

    Only here can you have a discussion about trading in a Volvo for a Tesla, the difference between whiskey and bourbon, and prepping for a colonoscopy - all on one page. :p

    Yep, and have interest with all three.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaMember Posts: 11,883
    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(
    Please don’t tell us what you do touch - spare us! 🤪😜🤓
    OK, I'll spare you, but about the only thing I drink is the cheapest alcoholic drink you can buy (not because it is cheap, but because that's all I prefer).
    I wasn’t talking about alcohol. 🤪😜

    2021 Genesis G90

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,490
    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(
    Please don’t tell us what you do touch - spare us! 🤪😜🤓
    OK, I'll spare you, but about the only thing I drink is the cheapest alcoholic drink you can buy (not because it is cheap, but because that's all I prefer).
    I wasn’t talking about alcohol. 🤪😜
    Have you noticed, he always thinks he knows what you’re talking about. First sign of a guy who buys cheap booze and luxo cars. :s

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 12,817
    I

    I got troubles in river city.

    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.

    Well, it turns out this didn’t happen at the market. My son confessed he had some friends over in his basement man-cave and one of the girls tipped over the recliner backwards and landed on the car door.

    $800 at my go-to guy.

    My kind of party...

    +1 check out paint dent removal. If you can’t find one, call a local car dealer and ask who they use.

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,047
    Yep, it's the grey font which is making things difficult to read. Think if they use a lighter, brighter font, that could solve the issue. Better late than never because this grey font really isn't working! At least not for me.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    Only here can you have a discussion about trading in a Volvo for a Tesla, the difference between whiskey and bourbon, and prepping for a colonoscopy - all on one page. :p

    Yep, and have interest with all three.

    jmonroe
    ....or none of the 3.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    abacomike said:

    driver100 said:

    jipster said:

    ronsteve said:

    jipster said:

    driver100 said:

    jmonroe1 said:



    What’s wrong with bourbon? :s

    jmonroe

    Speaking of which, here is my question;
    Why is approximately 95% of all bourbon produced in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Distillers' Association.(2018)? Doesn't anyone else know how to make it.
    I remember it had something to do with our delicious water. Here you go.
    "The water in Kentucky is hard — meaning, it has a high pH and a high proportion of minerals, including calcium and magnesium. These elements are optimal for distilling. The yeast in bourbon adores those minerals. They aid the fermentation process and create the distinctive, crisp Kentucky bourbon we know and love.Jul 17"

    So, unless it's made in Kentucky, legally it can't be called bourbon.
    Actually, it just has to be made in the United States. The "ideal" water here in KY is why 95% of it is made in Kentucky.
    It does have to be made in Kentucky to be "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey" of course.
    Thanks for the correction. I took a tour of the Angels Envy Bourbon Distillery , here in Louisville, before the covid outbreak, so I "mismembered" that fact. I am not a Bourbon or whiskey drinker, Mrs. Jip does the hard liquor drinking in the family. :smile: But one other factoid from the tour, "All bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon."
    Never touch the stuff myself! :(
    Please don’t tell us what you do touch - spare us! 🤪😜🤓
    OK, I'll spare you, but about the only thing I drink is the cheapest alcoholic drink you can buy (not because it is cheap, but because that's all I prefer).
    I wasn’t talking about alcohol. 🤪😜
    In that case, yes you are right....my lips are sealed.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moMember Posts: 29,713
    edited April 6

    I got troubles in river city.
    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.
    $800 at my go-to guy.

    Some have mentioned paintless dent removal. That can work, but it doesn't work in some situations. One is when they can't get inside behind the dent at times. Another problem can be when the dent is on a crease.

    I hope it can work in your case OF...........just don't want you to get your hopes up. I have seen it work once out of 3 times, the other two times they couldn't do it, because of the position and once it was on a crease.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Member Posts: 18,056
    edited April 6
    Please ignore just testing something.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,041

    @oldfarmer50,
    Get a quote from a paintless dent removal place.

    My guy is going to do that but the way the metal is creased he’ll have to do additional work and do paint and blend. I could go cheaper but I told him to go all OCD.

    It’s actually not that noticeable except at a certain angle and I’d probably just go PDR with any of my other cars.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,041
    tjc78 said:

    I

    I got troubles in river city.

    I took the Mustang out to the supermarket today. I parked out by myself to avoid mishaps but to no avail. I came out and noticed something funny on the driver’s door. Sure enough I find a ding on the crease which popped the metal out below. Imagine my outrage that this would happen the first time out of storage.

    Well, it turns out this didn’t happen at the market. My son confessed he had some friends over in his basement man-cave and one of the girls tipped over the recliner backwards and landed on the car door.

    $800 at my go-to guy.

    My kind of party...

    +1 check out paint dent removal. If you can’t find one, call a local car dealer and ask who they use.
    My guy will do everything from just pass inspection quality up to concours. I’ve had him do both and been satisfied.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,041

    Yep, it's the grey font which is making things difficult to read. Think if they use a lighter, brighter font, that could solve the issue. Better late than never because this grey font really isn't working! At least not for me.

    It was probably developed by the same guy who came up with printing the unreadable car tags on Enterprise keys. That guy got a bonus for saving ink too. ;)

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Using windows 10 desktop running firefox 87.0.

    Open firefox menu, click Options. Scroll down to Language and Appearance, look under Fonts and Colors, click the Colors button on lower right side. A pop up menu offers a change of colors rectangle box for both text and background.

    After choosing colors for each I clicked on the Aways override button at the bottom of the menu.

    After combining color changes and the + Zoom option from the main menu things are a bit easier on the eyes.
    A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
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