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oldfarmer50 · January 13

ab348 said:
Youse guys with your SiriusXM horror stories just wouldn't listen to me, would ya? I been tellin ya, they are a scummy company and always have been with their deceptive sales tactics and makin ya jump though hoops to get the best rates. But wouldja listen to me? Nooooooo...

My USB flash drive serves me very well for music in the car.

I believe the NYS Attorney General is suing them for their shady practices. Maybe they forgot the campaign contributions.

stickguy · January 13

I don't get hung up on how they do everything. I just focus on what I am getting. Which is the radio I want. Spending 10 minutes once a year discussing terms with them has never raised my BP.

laurasdada · January 13

Ditto, Stickguy.
I'm using the M240 to rip CDs to its hard drive and then adding them back to my USB stick (no CD players in any of my current laptops. Actually works quite well doing it in the 2er). Which is USB A, the Audi only has USB C ports. One of these days I'll buy an adaptor...

fintail · January 13

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:
Apple Music or Pandora premium is such a better value than XM.

You basically have access to any album ever recorded plus curated stations and playlists.

I’ll never go back to XM. You can also use it in the house or whenever your phone is.

you can use XM in the house or off your phone. It comes with the streaming app.

the biggest advantage to me of XM is convenience. It works like, well, the radio! Turn on the car, and it comes on. If I want to change stations, I just thumb the button on the steering wheel. I don't want to have to plug in my phone every time I get in the car, and I certainly don't want to have to play with the phone to change the music. On a road trip, no issue with the wife playing with it (other than the fact she gets confused how and has lousy taste in music, and can't remember any bands!) But for local driving I like the ease of just having a radio working without doing anything.

Same here. I have no complaints and have always been able to get the "real" rate in a few minutes. I listen to it virtually every time I drive the modern car, I also stream it in the old car and use it on my Sonos system. For the amount of time I listen, I think it's a fair deal, as there are maybe one or two tolerable terrestrial stations here.

kyfdx · January 13

mjfloyd1 said:
Is it cordless?

Not positive, but it doesn't appear to be wireless. (neither is my GTI)

imidazol97 · January 13

explorerx4 said:
@tjc78.
How many sports events are on Apple Music or Pandora?
It depends on what you want. I like the music with DJ's on Sirius but the sports broadcasts clinches it for me.

Very good point. I think about SXM only as music, but in the past we have used
the sports channels to listen to OSU games, or Michigan games, or to just
browse the sports channels during games. If I recall, the index shows the teams
and the current scores. Often my wife was wanting the current scores for
various teams in OSU's competition for playoffs and bowls.

Now she just uses her Android phone.

imidazol97 · January 13

ab348 said:
Youse guys with your SiriusXM horror stories just wouldn't listen to me, would ya? I been tellin ya, they are a scummy company and always have been with their deceptive sales tactics and makin ya jump though hoops to get the best rates. But wouldja listen to me? Nooooooo...

My USB flash drive serves me very well for music in the car.

Thinking back to when I did answer their phone calling by accident, forwarded from home
phone to my cell, while on a major ramp to I75, I recall the stunned silence on the
other end when I told the young lady not to call me again. I am not sure, but I might
have added some other words to the statement that emphasized my sincerity
not to be bothered by phone again.

jmonroe1 · January 13

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:
better not ever buy a new car. No more CD players in anything.
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Yeah, I heard that was coming. I guess I could always try adding a CD player in the trunk. Down side of that is once I get in there I might not be able to climb out. My knees ain’t what they used to be. Might have to tie a rope around me and give Mrs. j a call on her cell. Just have to make sure I didn’t upset her before I climb into the trunk.

jmonroe
Just tie the rope around your waist when you crawl in there and, if you can't get out, have Mrs. J tie the other end to a tree and drive away - sort of like pulling a tooth with a string.

Burn your music to a USB drive.

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That makes me think you’ve already installed a CD player in the trunk of one of your cars.

Now that I’ve had time to think about this I don’t need to call Mrs. j. I can continue to open my mouth just like I’ve always done.

My new plan is to still use the rope but take the remote for the garage door opener with me when I climb into the trunk. If I can’t get out, just have to hit the open button and I’m out and probably more gently too. Most important part of this plan will be not forgetting to tie the other end of the rope to the garage door handle. I guess I can make a check list so I don’t forget to do that.

There, I think I’ve thought it all out now.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · January 13

ab348 said:
Youse guys with your SiriusXM horror stories just wouldn't listen to me, would ya? I been tellin ya, they are a scummy company and always have been with their deceptive sales tactics and makin ya jump though hoops to get the best rates. But wouldja listen to me? Nooooooo...

My USB flash drive serves me very well for music in the car.

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Now you know how I feel about Mrs. j not listening to me and that goes back way before they invented XM.

jmonroe

Michaell · January 13

Interesting video from my local fire department on electric vehicles:

https://youtu.be/itGeAq9rBeY?si=r-xKcyrAIrp3HRMq

houdini1 · January 13

jmonroe1 said:

houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:
houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini1 said:
Saw today where Hertz is selling off 20,000 EVs, a third of their fleet, and replacing with gas cars. They cited highter than anticipated repair costs and depreciation. Plus few people wanted to rent them.
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Hey stranger when did they let you out?

jmonroe
Just got paroled !!
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I’ve heard parole boards have been getting soft the last few months. So, I guess it’s true.

Being you’re now a hit and run poster, don’t come in here with disparaging comments about EV cars. Several of your old poster buddies have one or at least part of one. They may never post to you again.

jmonroe
Actually an EV would be perfect for my wife and me, but just too old to change. Neither one of us drive very much any more, and when we do it is nearly always short trips. If the kids want to see us, they make the drive over from St. Louis, as we quit making that trip a couple of years ago. We each only drive around 4 or 5 thousand miles per year now.

I just suffered my 81st birthday Jan. 3rd and my wife is 77. Our 57th anniversary is coming up in August. Thankfully we are both in pretty good shape for our ages. I think I might be a couple of years older than Mike, so that makes me the elder statesman on here. If I am wrong about your age Mike, let me know and I will pass the title on to you.

Anyway, I haven't forgotten you guys, I just don't post as often as I used to. You are still a great bunch of guys, even you and Driver, Monroe.
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Man that’s the worst left handed compliment I’ve ever had. You should be more careful about who you group me with.

Not that I want a title (a trophy is more my style) but I’ve got you beat by 6 months with the birthday and 1 month with the anniversary.

Just didn’t want any bum dope be expressed in here.

jmonroe

Congrats monroe, I concede, you win the "Old Codger" award. Dag Nabbit. Just for good measure, I notice your car is one year older than mine also...

ab348 · January 13

I can't tell what sort of vehicle was on fire. I'm guessing a Porsche but am not sure.

Regardless, this should get @driver100 revved up.

houdini1 · January 13

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

kyfdx said:
You can pay by credit card for one year, then still renew or cancel by phone. I’ve done it for 10 years for my wife. They keep making it easier. The last two times, it’s taken less than 15 minutes. You get a month’s notice.

About $92, this past year.
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Thanks but I’m dead set against giving them my CC. I’m willing to pay a little more just to avoid doing that.

jmonroe
I wouldn't give them my CC info. either. The final straw was when they billed me after it ran out without even asking me, then mailed the bill.

I liked having it, but it's sort of like quitting smoking - the longer you do without it the better you feel.

Where you live there should be whatever you want on the radio. If it's because you don't like commercials, then there's no hope.

I have been paying T Mobile with a cc for years, then this year they said I would have to pay with a debit card or pay $10. more per month. I assume they didn't want to pay the cc fee. I told them I would pay the extra $10. until I could switch carriers. I think I will go with Consumers Cellular.

jmonroe1 · January 13

houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:
houdini1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

houdini1 said:
Saw today where Hertz is selling off 20,000 EVs, a third of their fleet, and replacing with gas cars. They cited highter than anticipated repair costs and depreciation. Plus few people wanted to rent them.
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Hey stranger when did they let you out?

jmonroe
Just got paroled !!
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I’ve heard parole boards have been getting soft the last few months. So, I guess it’s true.

Being you’re now a hit and run poster, don’t come in here with disparaging comments about EV cars. Several of your old poster buddies have one or at least part of one. They may never post to you again.

jmonroe
Actually an EV would be perfect for my wife and me, but just too old to change. Neither one of us drive very much any more, and when we do it is nearly always short trips. If the kids want to see us, they make the drive over from St. Louis, as we quit making that trip a couple of years ago. We each only drive around 4 or 5 thousand miles per year now.

I just suffered my 81st birthday Jan. 3rd and my wife is 77. Our 57th anniversary is coming up in August. Thankfully we are both in pretty good shape for our ages. I think I might be a couple of years older than Mike, so that makes me the elder statesman on here. If I am wrong about your age Mike, let me know and I will pass the title on to you.

Anyway, I haven't forgotten you guys, I just don't post as often as I used to. You are still a great bunch of guys, even you and Driver, Monroe.
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Man that’s the worst left handed compliment I’ve ever had. You should be more careful about who you group me with.

Not that I want a title (a trophy is more my style) but I’ve got you beat by 6 months with the birthday and 1 month with the anniversary.

Just didn’t want any bum dope be expressed in here.

jmonroe
Congrats monroe, I concede, you win the "Old Codger" award. Dag Nabbit.

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So where’s my trophy. Maybe Edmund’s is preparing it for shipment as I post.

jmonroe

laurasdada · January 13

ab348 said:
I can't tell what sort of vehicle was on fire. I'm guessing a Porsche but am not sure.

Regardless, this should get @driver100 revved up.

Darn, it's (was) a Jaguar I-Pace.

At the bottom of the mountain upon which we live, lives a black Jaguar I-Pace. In the 2 years we've lived here, it has not caught fire. So, regarding the video above, batting .500 here!

driver100 · January 13

ab348 said:
I can't tell what sort of vehicle was on fire. I'm guessing a Porsche but am not sure.

Regardless, this should get @driver100 revved up.

Hate to say I told you so, but...............

btw....ordinary fire extinguishers don't work, you need a special one for lithium batteries.
And how do you plug your car in overnight when they say don't leave your car plugged in unattended. I guess you can plug it in and sleep in it.

roadburner · January 13

Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...

ab348 · January 13

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...

Well, if it should happen to you, you’ll have to change your handle on here to “houseburner”.

oldfarmer50 · January 13

ab348 said:
I can't tell what sort of vehicle was on fire. I'm guessing a Porsche but am not sure.

Regardless, this should get @driver100 revved up.

It was a Jaguar EV.

oldfarmer50 · January 13

Hey, all this talk about shady corporate practices got me thinking so here’s a question maybe you guys can answer.

My wife and I are the last two people on the planet who pay bills with checks in the mail. Lately, it seems like it takes longer to see those checks cashed by the vendor. My wife sent a check for the cable bill on 12/30, due on the 7th but only cashed on the 10th. Similarly, my credit card check mailed on 12/30 was only cashed on the 12th.

Is this just the post office becoming more unreliable or are these companies holding checks past the due date so they can charge late fees.

For comparison, a check sent to a collage in NH on the same date was cashed in 4 days.

tjc78 · January 13

Farmer - all I can say is learn how to pay your bills online. They credit the same day. No stamps, no checks. I write maybe three or four checks a year.

It’s the only way to roll to these days.

roadburner · January 13

ab348 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
Well, if it should happen to you, you’ll have to change your handle on here to “houseburner”.

I'm already risking life and limb engaging in even more dangerous automotive activities- changing oil, fuses, batteries, and bulbs.

stickguy · January 13

Tom, caveat to that is some bills actually do get mailed. the "big" ones (credit cards, stuff like that) they do electronically but if you do one-offs (say, paying your lawnguy) those they actually mail. Not quite sure how they do it, but I think it is literally printing and mailing a check. So figure that will take a while!

my wife, far from a technology whiz, even uses the online account bill pay. easy once they are set up, but she always complains about having to look up and get the right account info for new ones. But if we have weird payments (money to a charity, local stuff, our property taxes) those are written checks.

stickguy · January 13

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:
better not ever buy a new car. No more CD players in anything.
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Yeah, I heard that was coming. I guess I could always try adding a CD player in the trunk. Down side of that is once I get in there I might not be able to climb out. My knees ain’t what they used to be. Might have to tie a rope around me and give Mrs. j a call on her cell. Just have to make sure I didn’t upset her before I climb into the trunk.

jmonroe
Just tie the rope around your waist when you crawl in there and, if you can't get out, have Mrs. J tie the other end to a tree and drive away - sort of like pulling a tooth with a string.

Burn your music to a USB drive.
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That makes me think you’ve already installed a CD player in the trunk of one of your cars.

Now that I’ve had time to think about this I don’t need to call Mrs. j. I can continue to open my mouth just like I’ve always done.

My new plan is to still use the rope but take the remote for the garage door opener with me when I climb into the trunk. If I can’t get out, just have to hit the open button and I’m out and probably more gently too. Most important part of this plan will be not forgetting to tie the other end of the rope to the garage door handle. I guess I can make a check list so I don’t forget to do that.

There, I think I’ve thought it all out now.

jmonroe

they actually have a hard drive built into the car. Essentially a big non-removable USB stick already in there!

jmonroe1 · January 13

roadburner said:

ab348 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
Well, if it should happen to you, you’ll have to change your handle on here to “houseburner”.
I'm already risking life and limb engaging in even more dangerous automotive activities- changing oil, fuses, batteries, and bulbs.

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I’m surprised you’re still posting given you’ve been walking on thin ice for so long. I know a few folks like you and they’re still around too. But, you never know when you’re going to run out of luck.

jmonroe

ab348 · January 13

oldfarmer50 said:
Hey, all this talk about shady corporate practices got me thinking so here’s a question maybe you guys can answer.

My wife and I are the last two people on the planet who pay bills with checks in the mail. Lately, it seems like it takes longer to see those checks cashed by the vendor. My wife sent a check for the cable bill on 12/30, due on the 7th but only cashed on the 10th. Similarly, my credit card check mailed on 12/30 was only cashed on the 12th.

Is this just the post office becoming more unreliable or are these companies holding checks past the due date so they can charge late fees.

For comparison, a check sent to a collage in NH on the same date was cashed in 4 days.

I suspect they receive so few cheques as payment these days that they no longer have staff dedicated to that function. Post-secondary institutions have no need for such efficiencies so they probably have someone who does that 5% of the day and goes to lunch for a few hours.

driver100 · January 13

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...

I think the guy with the Jaguar said the same thing.

driver100 · January 13

roadburner said:

ab348 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
Well, if it should happen to you, you’ll have to change your handle on here to “houseburner”.
I'm already risking life and limb engaging in even more dangerous automotive activities- changing oil, fuses, batteries, and bulbs.

Impressive!

driver100 · January 13

@oldfarmer50 Accounts payable aren't set up for checks any more. They are trying to automate things these days. It probably costs $10 to process a check these days.

stickguy · January 13

driver100 said:
@oldfarmer50 Accounts payable aren't set up for checks any more. They are trying to automate things these days. It probably costs $10 to process a check these days.

good. send a check, stick it to the man.

stickguy · January 13

I hope the KC contingent all picked up some of the $30 tickets to watch the Chiefs game in person tonight. A balmy -7 out there, good football weather!

roadburner · January 13

driver100 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
I think the guy with the Jaguar said the same thing.

Sometimes you have to get over being scared of your own shadow.

driver100 · January 14

roadburner said:

driver100 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
I think the guy with the Jaguar said the same thing.
Sometimes you have to get over being scared of your own shadow.

Very profound.
My brother lives in Calgary where it has been the coldest winter in 50 years. This cold spell has lasted for weeks, today it will be -28 with a wind chill of -40F.

My brother sent an email that said:
"Just got an Alberta emergency alert on our cell phones and TV! Turn off all unnecessary power usage due to severe temperature strain on the power grid!🥺".

I told him it is a good thing he doesn't have an EV.

tjc78 · January 14

@stickguy said:
Tom, caveat to that is some bills actually do get mailed. the "big" ones (credit cards, stuff like that) they do electronically but if you do one-offs (say, paying your lawnguy) those they actually mail. Not quite sure how they do it, but I think it is literally printing and mailing a check. So figure that will take a while!

my wife, far from a technology whiz, even uses the online account bill pay. easy once they are set up, but she always complains about having to look up and get the right account info for new ones. But if we have weird payments (money to a charity, local stuff, our property taxes) those are written checks.

Are you talking about your bank’s online bill pay? Then yes you are correct. If they aren’t in the system they mail a check and it takes awhile.

When we had our place at the campground, the note was with a credit union and they had no online billing or payments. I used Wells Fargo bill pay and to get it there on time I had to send it 12 days ahead.

I don’t use that service for anything anymore. I just go into the electric company or CC etc and pay it manually. Everything else is on autopay. I’m always afraid to put the utilities on auto in case they miss read a meter and it’s a huge bill.

stickguy · January 14

I wont auto pay CCs or utilities either. I find it easier (well, easier for my wife) to have it in one place so she doesn’t have to figure out where to go for each one. It was enough of a struggle getting her used to paperless!

I go direct when she forgets to pay one and it’s due that day.

I do have some stuff (cable, garbage pickup) that offers it going to a credit card. Cuts way down on the number of different places to pay.

driver100 · January 14

roadburner said:

ab348 said:

roadburner said:
Yes; I could never sleep when the i3 was charging downstairs, now it's deja vu all over again. The things I endure to own a 5,000 pound SUV that averages 49.8 mpg...
Well, if it should happen to you, you’ll have to change your handle on here to “houseburner”.
I'm already risking life and limb engaging in even more dangerous automotive activities- changing oil, fuses, batteries, and bulbs.

That's great, I hear they are looking for people to work at Jiffy Lube.

laurasdada · January 14

This past week, I changed out a basic programable thermostat to an Ecobee. Of course, I had my local fire department and EMS in the same room with me as my shadow is quite frightening. (Actually, given my general clumsiness, might not have been a bad idea!)

Not to scare you into never sleeping, Driver, but guess what batteries are in phones and laptops? Which have been known to spontaneously combust upon occasion, too. (Yes, I recognize the difference in scale)

Again, there is risk in basically every aspect of life. Know your use case and technology options. We know you are wicked afraid of EVs; the dead horse would like a bit of a rest.

Just IMHO, of course.
Fear can be entertaining.

oldfarmer50 · January 14

tjc78 said:
Farmer - all I can say is learn how to pay your bills online. They credit the same day. No stamps, no checks. I write maybe three or four checks a year.

It’s the only way to roll to these days.

Until the power goes out.😥

roadburner · January 14

@driver100 said:
That's great, I hear they are looking for people to work at Jiffy Lube.

I’m surprised that you aren’t already a greeter at Walmart.

roadburner · January 14

@driver100 said:
Very profound.
My brother lives in Calgary where it has been the coldest winter in 50 years. This cold spell has lasted for weeks, today it will be -28 with a wind chill of -40F.

My brother sent an email that said:
"Just got an Alberta emergency alert on our cell phones and TV! Turn off all unnecessary power usage due to severe temperature strain on the power grid!🥺".

I told him it is a good thing he doesn't have an EV.

I’m not opposed to EVs; what I’m opposed to is that they are being mandated when the technology isn’t mature and the infrastructure isn’t ready for it. EVs can and should be a part of the private vehicle mix but for the foreseeable future they aren’t a one size fits all solution or a magic bullet.
I’d rather the regulations continue to require manufacturers to achieve an average fleet mpg number rather than mandate a specific “solution.” Imagine if, during the first energy crisis, the government response had been to ban engines over a certain displacement or cylinder count. Instead, manufacturers developed new technology to improve efficiency and performance.
Regardless, while I don’t blindly welcome all new technology, I am intrigued and interested by progress- not fearful of it.

oldfarmer50 · January 14

roadburner said:

@driver100 said:

That's great, I hear they are looking for people to work at Jiffy Lube.

I’m surprised that you aren’t already a greeter at Walmart.

I’m surprised you two are fighting over those kind of jobs. Transport driver is the way to go.

ab348 · January 14

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:
Farmer - all I can say is learn how to pay your bills online. They credit the same day. No stamps, no checks. I write maybe three or four checks a year.

It’s the only way to roll to these days.

Until the power goes out.😥

Of course, your pen could also run out of ink.

roadburner · January 14

laurasdada said:
This past week, I changed out a basic programable thermostat to an Ecobee. Of course, I had my local fire department and EMS in the same room with me as my shadow is quite frightening. (Actually, given my general clumsiness, might not have been a bad idea!)

Not to scare you into never sleeping, Driver, but guess what batteries are in phones and laptops? Which have been known to spontaneously combust upon occasion, too. (Yes, I recognize the difference in scale)

Again, there is risk in basically every aspect of life. Know your use case and technology options. We know you are wicked afraid of EVs; the dead horse would like a bit of a rest.

Just IMHO, of course.
Fear can be entertaining.

Well said.

tjc78 · January 14

@oldfarmer50 said:
Until the power goes out.😥

No need for power! I do mostly everything on my phone.

driver100 · January 14

laurasdada said:

Not to scare you into never sleeping, Driver, but guess what batteries are in phones and laptops? Which have been known to spontaneously combust upon occasion, too. (Yes, I recognize the difference in scale)

Again, there is risk in basically every aspect of life. Know your use case and technology options. We know you are wicked afraid of EVs; the dead horse would like a bit of a rest.
.

Someone is projecting this fear thing. I have never said I am fearful of batteries or EVs. I get the concept and I have said if it works for you go for it. I don't think it is ready for prime time for a large segment of the population, and because the infrastructure isn't their yet.

It isn't practical for people who travel long distances, for people who aren't able to plug in, or for my brother in Calgary who isn't supposed to use electricity unless it is absolutely necessary.

One day we will all have electric cars.......I understand that. At this time I am not ready to switch, gassers have served me well and they suit me....I don't need to spend $60 or $70k to switch to something that might not work for me.

driver100 · January 14

tjc78 said:

@oldfarmer50 said:

Until the power goes out.😥

No need for power! I do mostly everything on my phone.

I don't think oldfarmer does internet on his phone, IIRC.

houdini1 · January 14

stickguy said:
I hope the KC contingent all picked up some of the $30 tickets to watch the Chiefs game in person tonight. A balmy -7 out there, good football weather!

I watched and cheered from the comfort of my easy chair at home. The second half from my warm bed.

Michaell · January 14

houdini1 said:

stickguy said:
I hope the KC contingent all picked up some of the $30 tickets to watch the Chiefs game in person tonight. A balmy -7 out there, good football weather!
I watched and cheered from the comfort of my easy chair at home. The second half from my warm bed.

I had a former co-worker, who lives in KC, attend the game last night. She commented on FB this morning that her voice is hoarse, and she can't feel her feet, but she's looking forward to the next game.

tjc78 · January 14

@Michaell said:
I had a former co-worker, who lives in KC, attend the game last night. She commented on FB this morning that her voice is hoarse, and she can't feel her feet, but she's looking forward to the next game.

You couldn’t even drink a beer .. they were freezing

driver100 · January 14

btw, talking about risk. Doing your own oil change might be a bit risky.
Starting up a company that grows quickly, renting a warehouse for $8000 a month on your personal account (with a 2 year lease), having small retail accounts but having one large retail customer who makes up 80% of your sales that isn't in the best of shape, and having about $100000 worth of inventory on hand, and having 4 employees that you are responsible for.
That's a lot of balls to juggle, and if one of them falls you've had it.
People who start their own business often mortgage their homes, they work 24/7, they always have to be thinking, they have to have about 4 jobs, and if anything goes wrong you can lose it all.
That is make it or break it risk.

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