I saw a Benzes & Bowties video this AM where he is talking about "crazy" reasons customers have traded cars in and bought new ones. He gave a few plausible reasons such as, "a customer lost their key and didn't want to buy a new key so he traded in the car and bought a new one." "A customer bought a car, 3 weeks later it got a door ding, didn't want to get it fixed, traded in their car for a new one." Then he said: "Let me know in the comments if you know anyone who has traded in a car for a new one for some bizzare or illogical reason."
If these walls could talk...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Took the F-150 in for first seviec today - The Works. Basically, oil/filter change, tire rotation and fluid top off's if needed. Tire tread measured as 12/32's. About $94. It takes 8 quarts of oil. I didn't dare walk the lot, especially since my daughter wants to buy my Explorer.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
My SIL many years ago (the 90s) traded a very nice accord for a Volvo (740 I think). Stayed reason was it needed new wiper blades and the cassette deck heads needed to be cleaned.
Conceptually I can. It just seems a lot harder than it used to. Part of it is being a retirement portfolio hoarder, but also I don’t know what I would get and car shopping now seems to be way worse than it used to be!
I need to get my driveway bump out extended 4’. That might make it easier to park something outside if I want to go to 3 cars. Not that I would be able to use them all.
Pretty sure too that my wife is packing it in next spring a year before we intended to (and 1 before Medicare, assuming it still exists then). If she makes it that long before snapping. I’ll suck it up 1 more year to keep benefits if needed. So I (um, she) should get a new car to make it worth doing!
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free. The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Son kept bugging me all day because their store is coming up REALLY short on their monthly goal. I told him that my offer would be seriously insulting with current lease numbers. I’d take a Kicks for $99/mo with $99 DAS at 10k/yr. Best his boss said he could get to was 200 on an SR. Thankfully he knows enough to tell his boss I don’t negotiate, so my son didn’t even present that to me (only heard once he got home). Good deal, but not good enough to make me take something I don’t need and barely want.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
@roadburner said:
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free.
The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
Does the ‘98 have the older motor or the higher hp motor?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free. The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
What’s your opinion on annual oil changes on a car driven only a thousand miles or so a year and stored for winter?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I saw what I think was an EV fire on I-87 (Northway) up near stickguy’s neighborhood. The reason I think it was an EV is because the firefighters had stopped fighting the fire after putting out the fire in the upper part of the car and passenger cabin. They seemed to be just standing by as fire furiously shot out from underneath the car. I’m guessing that they were at this point just letting itself burn out.
It looked something like this:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
@oldfarmer50, I'll give you my opinion. Change the oil before winter storage. That way you are driving on new oil in the spring. Gas is the same thing. Run it down, put in some preservative when you put it away. In the spring, fill it up with fresh fuel.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
@stickguy said:
My SIL many years ago (the 90s) traded a very nice accord for a Volvo (740 I think). Stayed reason was it needed new wiper blades and the cassette deck heads needed to be cleaned.
Funny, the 740 my parents had included a feature on the tape deck to remind you to clean the heads. I think it lit up every 10 hours of play or something ridiculously short.
@explorerx4 said:
Speaking of old school audio tech, I have a bunch of CD's but none of my vehicles have a CD player.
Does anyone have a Bluetooth or USB CD player?
I think most USB ports in cars will support a USB CD/DVD drive as an external media device, but I’ve never tried it.
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free.
The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
Does the ‘98 have the older motor or the higher hp motor?
The older engine- it's a blessing and a curse- the blessing is that the motor is essentially a higher displacement version of the 328i motor with a hotter cam; the curse is that it's not a "real" M motor so the powers is down.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
My dad definitely would have qualified as an OG CCBAer.
We had a Jetta GLI, 940 Turbo, 2 Land Cruisers, two Taurus SHOs, an Audi S6 Avant, an Audi V8, an Audi A8, Ford Excursion, Volvo V70 T5, Audi Allroad, and on and on. That was all from ‘93 to ‘03 between both of my parents.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
Speaking of SHO, I drove up behind what appeared to be an ex police car. It had a dual exhaust and flex fuel and AWD badging. The license plate said “SHO OFF”
@explorerx4 said:
Speaking of old school audio tech, I have a bunch of CD's but none of my vehicles have a CD player.
Does anyone have a Bluetooth or USB CD player?
Does your car have a 3.5mm Aux input? I’d go that route if it does since you still want your phone connected via Bluetooth
This one looks decent enough. Has skip protection (buffer) Bluetooth and Aux cable.
Doesn’t look like Sony, Panasonic, etc still make them.
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free. The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
What’s your opinion on annual oil changes on a car driven only a thousand miles or so a year and stored for winter?
I've been doing the annual service/oil change in the fintail since it left DD status almost 25 years ago. It seems to be fine, but I think it might matter less to some old cars as they might not be picky about oil as long as it keeps things oiled. Lately I have also been putting fuel stabilizer in it when it goes into hibernation.
I looked into CD players at one point, but never got one. I do have 4 large boxes of CDs downstairs. Maybe in retirement I burn them all!
I did do a few hundred many years ago, and built a big itunes library. And at some point during a computer crash/replacement I think, everything I added got lost which was very annoying. I do now have another program I found where I collected a bunch of songs I had from various sources on my computer and got them in one place, and copied onto a thumb drive (about 3,000). eventually I will add to that library!
@stickguy said:
I can't imagine driving a Kicks on a regular basis now.
It is much easier when you have several to choose from each day, and when the one you are replacing is a 58hp automatic Kei car.
The kid says the SR Kicks is the only one to get. Far better seats and more spunk. But he particularly likes that it reminds him of our clown car in that it feels massive inside compared to how it looks from outside.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I posted on C&C that I took the Wrangler to my dealer for an oil change (oil life was down to 5%). I took advantage of a couple of Jeep service coupons and bought two oil changes and received a free tire rotation. Total cost was $140.58, but the next visit will be free. The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
What’s your opinion on annual oil changes on a car driven only a thousand miles or so a year and stored for winter?
I'd go possibly two years but no longer than that.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Any well optioned new car should be able to sleep one person easily.
Q: What's yellow, slow, and sleeps three men? A: A DOT truck!
Hey- from 1975 to 1978 the State Highway Department was my summer job. Do I have stories. Summer help weren't supposed to even drive the pickups and I ended up driving dump trucks, a water truck, an oil distributor, a grader, and a roller- as well as pickups and mowers. Another college kid and I would drag race the pickups at lunch.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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You guys are making me feel like life has passed me by. I used to be able to churn and burn with the best of them.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If these walls could talk...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
About $94. It takes 8 quarts of oil.
I didn't dare walk the lot, especially since my daughter wants to buy my Explorer.
Punch pending. Shocker
At port waiting for new bolts for the air dam because those have been falling off😂. Supposed to arrive in 20-ish days. Trade on Jeep was as expected.
Should look just like this


2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Can’t get third row in hybrid because that is where battery goes
My SIL many years ago (the 90s) traded a very nice accord for a Volvo (740 I think). Stayed reason was it needed new wiper blades and the cassette deck heads needed to be cleaned.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My stated reason is…because I can
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
Amen brotha
Love it! Congrats
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Walla Walla wine country
Conceptually I can. It just seems a lot harder than it used to. Part of it is being a retirement portfolio hoarder, but also I don’t know what I would get and car shopping now seems to be way worse than it used to be!
I need to get my driveway bump out extended 4’. That might make it easier to park something outside if I want to go to 3 cars. Not that I would be able to use them all.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Pretty sure too that my wife is packing it in next spring a year before we intended to (and 1 before Medicare, assuming it still exists then). If she makes it that long before snapping. I’ll suck it up 1 more year to keep benefits if needed. So I (um, she) should get a new car to make it worth doing!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The CCBA addendum is that the Jeep dealer has a 1998 M Roadster; Imola Red and just 35k miles. Only $17,500. If it drops to $15,000 I may not be able to resist.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Cross Jeep ?
Son kept bugging me all day because their store is coming up REALLY short on their monthly goal. I told him that my offer would be seriously insulting with current lease numbers. I’d take a Kicks for $99/mo with $99 DAS at 10k/yr. Best his boss said he could get to was 200 on an SR. Thankfully he knows enough to tell his boss I don’t negotiate, so my son didn’t even present that to me (only heard once he got home). Good deal, but not good enough to make me take something I don’t need and barely want.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Does the ‘98 have the older motor or the higher hp motor?
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD, 2025 Toyota Camry SE AWD
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
It looked something like this:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I'll give you my opinion.
Change the oil before winter storage. That way you are driving on new oil in the spring.
Gas is the same thing. Run it down, put in some preservative when you put it away.
In the spring, fill it up with fresh fuel.
There is a new Leaf coming out, and Nissan seems to be desperate (although not all of their dealers are).
Funny, the 740 my parents had included a feature on the tape deck to remind you to clean the heads. I think it lit up every 10 hours of play or something ridiculously short.
My parents had a 940 Turbo wagon when I was a kid.
Does anyone have a Bluetooth or USB CD player?
The Sportage needed a new tire. $133 all in.
Not sure what happened to the $185 price I saw on line, but I’ll take it.
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I think most USB ports in cars will support a USB CD/DVD drive as an external media device, but I’ve never tried it.
I've browsed some CD devices but the reviews are mixed.
Not interested in taking the time to copy to a USB stick.
You had cool parents. My Dad drove an endless stream of Olds 98’s.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
In undergrad, I remember campus police warning students not to use those CD holder covers for car sun visors, because it could attract a break-in.
Does the ‘98 have the older motor or the higher hp motor?
The older engine- it's a blessing and a curse- the blessing is that the motor is essentially a higher displacement version of the 328i motor with a hotter cam; the curse is that it's not a "real" M motor so the powers is down.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
My dad definitely would have qualified as an OG CCBAer.
We had a Jetta GLI, 940 Turbo, 2 Land Cruisers, two Taurus SHOs, an Audi S6 Avant, an Audi V8, an Audi A8, Ford Excursion, Volvo V70 T5, Audi Allroad, and on and on. That was all from ‘93 to ‘03 between both of my parents.
Speaking of SHO, I drove up behind what appeared to be an ex police car. It had a dual exhaust and flex fuel and AWD badging. The license plate said “SHO OFF”
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I still haven’t told my wife that I’ve bought a new vehicle 🤣
I would get the plate SHO 4.
Does your car have a 3.5mm Aux input? I’d go that route if it does since you still want your phone connected via Bluetooth
This one looks decent enough. Has skip protection (buffer) Bluetooth and Aux cable.
Doesn’t look like Sony, Panasonic, etc still make them.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
92-95 is my favorite.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Any well optioned new car should be able to sleep one person easily.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I did do a few hundred many years ago, and built a big itunes library. And at some point during a computer crash/replacement I think, everything I added got lost which was very annoying. I do now have another program I found where I collected a bunch of songs I had from various sources on my computer and got them in one place, and copied onto a thumb drive (about 3,000). eventually I will add to that library!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My favorite was my wife's 96. That 3.4 V8 had the best startup sound.
The 92 I had was nicknamed 'Heroin'. It was addicting.
A: A DOT truck!
It is much easier when you have several to choose from each day, and when the one you are replacing is a 58hp automatic Kei car.
The kid says the SR Kicks is the only one to get. Far better seats and more spunk. But he particularly likes that it reminds him of our clown car in that it feels massive inside compared to how it looks from outside.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive