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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    This car has so much power. With my 325i, I'd go up my inclined garage path and it would barely be moving with my foot off the brake and gas, but with the 545i, I gotta use the brake as it wants to plow forward on its own.
    I haven't floored it yet but it is so ultra-smooth! I know after a few months when the break-in period is over, my new buddy and I will become fast friends(and I do mean fast!).
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Is there anyone out there besides me who thinks the E60 steering wheel is a bit too thin?
    My previous 325i's steering wheel felt just right.
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    Does anyone know what the "Lighting Package" consists of? It is included with the Premium Package, but you can't order it as a separate package. It can't be the xenon headlights because that's a separate option. I can't find any info on, and the best a google search yields is "interior lighting package with ambient light." Does anyone have any additional info? Thanks.
  • manybmwsmanybmws Posts: 347
    I went up to NH yesterday to test drive some cars in this order:

    2005 530i SP AT
    2006 750i SP AT
    2006 325i SP AT

    I currently have a 2003 530i. But I was dissapointed with the 530 supplied for this drive. The engine in that car is just not enough and I found the suspension a bit jarring and abrupt. Also, when pushed the tires on that car just don't cut the mustard. I felt that my non-SP 530 does much better with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on 17" wheels. The interior of the car did not at all feel like a step up from my car.

    The 750 was a great ride. I think the interior is very nice. The controls would take some getting used to. But the ride is very luxurious. And when pushed it takes off its Cadillac ride and gets down to business. The juxtaposition of handling vs. luxury is amplified here to the nth degree - probably more than other BMW product ever made.

    Th 325 was the biggest surpirse to me. The new 6 in combo with the new chasiss is well executed. The fun factor is a 10 even with the smaller engine. The interior is a much better execution the the current 5. You just can't help tossing this baby around. The convertible should be a hoot. If anyone is looking to spend $35K on a car you have to drive this if you are an enthusiast. Homerun for BMW. Hopefully this will generate enough revenue for them to get them to the next 5-series design :)

    Based on these rides I would recommend to the BMW designers that they:
    1) Put the new six in a 7-series i.e. 730i.
    2) Upgrade the 5 interior a lot in 2008 re-do (closer to 7-Series) along with a re-styling to the front end bumper - take the "frown" out :(
    3) Get out performance packages for the 3-series ASAP
    4) Hurry up with the 3-series hardtop convertible.
    5) Put a bigger sunroof in the 7-series - like the 6-series.

    All in all a fun experience that you folks should take advantage of without a salesperson along for the ride ;)
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Is the new 3 vert going to be a hard top?

  • i'm considering ordering a 525, i live in kentucky where we have snow or ice about 1 1/2 months
    the salesman says the i is fine for our area
    should i go ahead and order the xi?
    i think the salesman is trying to get me to buy one in stock and they don't have any xi's
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I doubt that you need an xi. I also live in Kentucky; I have a 1997 528i that serves as my wife's commuter sled. I have a set of Michelin Artic Alpine winter tires mounted on steel wheels with BMW OEM wheel covers. In early December I install the winter tires(a very easy 45 minute job) and in mid to late March I re-fit the summer tires and wheels. Your car will need winter alloy wheels and I'd advise buying a wheel/tire package from Tire Rack. Couple some good winter tires with BMWs traction/stability controls and-in my opinion-only the most incompetent, bone headed drivers will have trouble in the wintry stuff. An added advantage is that you can then run true summer tires from April through November instead of under-acheiving all-season rim protectors.
  • 530ir1150r530ir1150r Posts: 263
    I also live in Kentucky and have a 2002 530i w/Sport Package. Last Christmas was the only time I could not or should not get out. The price difference and maintenance cost difference will rent alot of cars from Enterprise.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    That storm last Christmas was a real mess-snow on top of a layer of ice. I live at the end of a 1/2 mile gravel farm road and it took me over 45 minutes to get my Jeep Wrangler out. Aside from that incident, the only time I haven't driven the 5er in the nasty stuff is when ground clearance has been an issue.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 70,240
    Although, I have a 3-series..

    Skip the Xi, and get winter tires/wheels...


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  • Maintenance is everything on this car. Plan on spending real money to keep in perfect running condition. The PLUS side is my car at 103000 ('97 528i) drives perfect and looks like almost new inside and out. The material quality and build quality make these cars defy age. BUT a vehicle service history and inspection by a real BMW facility is very important. I think with 80k and it being 8 yrs old any gremlins of a new model are already addressed. Know BEFORE you buy what service and how much will be needed. I wouldn't worry about '97 if you do the right things and would be a lot less money.
  • I must tell you all that I'm glad to see this discussion (about the snow tires) going on now.

    This way, those of us intrested can do the necessary research to have everything in place for Winter
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,573
    People just don't get it. Maybe it is ingrained in their head that they NEED AWD. Last Saturday after work I went and test drove an E90 325i. While waiting for my salesguy to finish up, I struck up a conversation with 2 different people checking out cars in the showroom. One guy said he was there to drive a 530Xi. They don't have any Xis yet, but had a 530iA w/ SP for him to drive. I tried to explain to him that a Sport Package 530i will drive much different from a 530Xi. His reply was that he'd get the Sport Package on the Xi as well. I tried to explain that all he'd need was a good set of winter wheels & tires and he wouldn't need AWD. He replied that he drives a lot from New Jersey to Long Island. Long ISland is FLAT! I just gave up at that point and told him good luck with the rest of his car shopping.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Back in the early '90s I bought a five speed Thunderbird Turbo Coupe for a work beater. The previous owner maintained that it was horrible in the snow. I wound up driving it in all sorts of crummy winter weather and I only got stuck once-when I high-centered it on a pile of plowed snow. Years of FWD propaganda has convinced most US drivers that RWD is dangerous in any climate short of an arid desert. I've even heard people say that they need AWD because it rains a lot where they live. Sad...
  • jk30jk30 Posts: 10
    I have been searching online for safety info on the 04-06 530i (xi)
    I am trying to decide on the purchase of a 530 or Volvo S80. I want the safest car possible of the two, but can't find the safety info on the 5 vs the wealth of info that I've found on the S80. I know that both are 'safe' cars, I'm just looking to see the information/build reports. Any suggestions?????
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    I don't feel the E60 steering wheel is thin—though I have small hands. Perhaps is because of that. What I feel very comfortable with the E60 steering wheel is that one can grip very firmly the steering wheel with the thumbs applied to the steering-wheel radius when driving sharp corners.

  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Not really a complaint. It just seems a little thinner than the 3 series steering wheel.

    Incidentally, Jose, my service reminder does not change from 15,000 miles as I put mileage on the car. Do you know if there is a way in iDrive to get this number to count down with mileage driven or is this a software issue?
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    According to another BMW forum, the service mileage indicator starts at 15,000 miles and goes down by 1000 mile intervals until it gets to 5000 miles left at which time it performs as expected.
    I only have 400 miles on my 545i so I will have to wait to see if it is working properly.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 70,240
    I guess you would have found that out already, if you could afford the gas to actually drive 1000 miles.. ;)


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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I've found a way.
    Skipping lunch on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays....
  • I have just recently been able to free up about 60-65k and am in the market for a new car. I am not that knowledgable in cars and I need some advice. I am currently on the path for a BMW 545i w/ Sport package. Everything seems in place and things are going smoothly. I'm thinking black with the beige interior.

    With my current job I am very busy and I have little time to go leisurely shop around. I have test driven this car and I like the way it drives a whole lot(I'm switching from a truck to a sedan for the first time).

    My question to you guys is what are some other good options to look at since I'm lacking the time right now. I've always heard great things from BMW so I just went this direction but I don't want to make the wrong choice! I'm very open to cons on the 545 as well. I've read a little bit on the E500 and that looked nice as well.

    Thanks in advance and I look forward to some advice,

    Hunter D.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    I like the front comfort seats. Many say they are better than the sport seats.
    The upgraded stereo would be nice.
    Some people can't be without navigation and satellite radio. I didn't get either.
    You can go to "" and "build" your 545i to your own specifications.
  • anthonypanthonyp Posts: 1,860
    I am in agreement with hpowers, although we got the mapping and sirius sat as they were an the car....I would think a regular cruise control is nice, and if you further wanted to save a bit, not the park assist, as it is very slow too respond....The thing that we like the best is the drive..Responsive..In fact I have never felt a car that drives as nicely...Tony
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 70,240
    Can you still order an '05 545i? I assumed they were now taking orders for the new '06 550i...


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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Good point.
    hunterd77 had better call his BMW dealer and ask whether orders are still being taken on the 2005 545i.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    The park distance control with graphic display is standard on the 545i, optional on the 525i and 530i.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I'd buy a CPO M5 and stick the extra $$$ in a money market account to cover maintenance or unforseen expenses. Well, what I would REALLY do with the money is find a nice Henna M1-but I suspect you wouldn't want to go that route...
  • has anyone seen an olivine 5 series?
    still haven't seen one
    i want something different, but still looks nice
    if you have seen the olivine, what did you think? i want to make sure it doesn't look like a minty green or other feminine color
  • Comfort is entirely subjective. If you are going to invest the money to buy a 545i, you really should find the time to test drive both types of seats. "Many" might prefer the comfort seats, but the rest of us like the sport seats better. Since only you know what feels good to you, how will you know if you don't try them out?
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,301
    Works on paper, but try and find a dealership that has any 545's on the lot with comfort seats.
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