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But here's my dilemma - It only has a single in-dash CD installed. Does anyone know of how or where I could get a 6 in-dash CD installed or should I leave well enough alone?
Thanks.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
On my 03 S80 2.9 I wanted to add foglights, the car is prewired for them, in order for them to work the computer needed to know they were there, software download. I wanted to add the auto lock feature when the car started rolling. software.
Everything that car does requires a program.
Especially if your replacing components.
We can't swap radios from one car to another without a whole lot of software.
Aftermarket stereos can be done, but you basically have to gut the audio sytem to do it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Usually it has been the programming itself that has needed debugging.
Volvo was at the forefront in 99 w/ this level of technology in the cars and there were some teething issues.
Since 2001 the computers and their systems have been rock solid.
Virtually all cars now are processor controlled to one degree or another.
Also, the engine processors store performance data, this is especially useful in accident investigations.
In terms of changes you will finf prior posts where the concensus is that 2008 is the earliest that a change could be made.
The Volvo dealer will still be a better bet due to better training and the latest equipment.
Also, I'm very curious to know what Volvo Finance has for residuals and MF rates for the 2005 S60 and S60R for 12K / 36 mos or 39 mos... Do I get that info from the leasing forum or here in the volvo forum? Any advice appreciated. I'm very interested in the S60R and may just jump since the price I'm looking at seems quite reasonable...
Thanks again and sorry for the messed up post.
S
So, for as long as I have an extended warranty, I will use the dealer - after that I will take a chance with the independent shop.
it won, hands down for me, over the Audi A4, new BMW 3, and MB C240... I'm absolutely thrilled and can't wait 'til my Saturday morning delivery...
Thanks to grantchstr and all the others on this and other forums for support and help!
S
Enjoy the car.
I've heard the G's get lower gas mileage than the 17-24mpg it's rated at.
What kind of real world gas mileage are people getting with the T5?
Are you using 93 octane, or 1/2 89 and 1/2 93 to average out at 91?
Infiniti is at 2.9% for 60mo purchase. They also have good lease rates, and only charge 10 cents per mile when miles are purchased up front...
I recently purchased a brand new manual 05 Black S60R. The car listed for over 45k and I got it for 37K. I come from Audi and test drove the S4, A4, 06 BMW three, G35 Coupe and Subaru Legacy. By far the S60R is the most bang for the buck of any of these cars. I know some of the car publications have been negative regarding this automobile, however, I find the fit and finish superb and equal to anything German. The car is extremely stealthy and few even know what it is. It is fun to drive. At the hand car wash today, the cleaner said " You know I have been cleaning cars for over 10 years and this is the only Volvo I have ever liked." With the body kit, I agree.
Without this group, I never would have found this car. Thanks.
Fell in love with the S60R -- esp. the interior, which I find extremely comfortable -- and was able to get a deal very similar to yours and haven't looked back (well, except in the rear view mirror to see everybody fading into the distance...) Only thing that's kinda odd is the HUGE turning radius... It'll take me a little while to adjust, but once I know the new dimensions, no big deal... And yes, reading the info on this list was very helpful (thanks too to volvomax -- i forgot to mention him in my last post)...
I have never had a car before that I wanted to "baby" -- my wife hasn't stopped laughing at me for parking way out in the parking lot and looking out the window just to check on it... Geek heaven!
;-)
Scott
I believe the S60R was designed to compete with the S4 and M3. Of course,Top Gear slams the Volvo and says the Germans are better. Having driven all of them, I would say the Volvo is definitely different. The M3 is a flat out race car and not comfortable. The S4 is a better daily driver and the feeling of the large eight and all wheel drive makes the S4 a special car. As you know, with the three buttons on the S60R, we can change the car into different modes depending on our driving style AT THAT MOMENT. Pretty cool, eh? Anyway, maybe this car is not as good as the S4 or the M3 but when you get down to under 40k pricing levels, it blows away any A4 and BMW three series. The Volvo's Haldex transmission is the same as my TT and Getrag transmission (I think) is the same as Audi and most BMWs. Do you know Volvomax?
Anyway, yes the turning radius is HUGE. When I first drove a S60R, I thought I was in a large car. I was shocked to learn the car is only two inches longer and two inches wider than the S4. Of course, when you are driving it you cannot even tell. It is only in parking malls/shopping centers, etc. you have to change your driving habits. I do not understand why the turning radius is so large but it must be the geometry of the car and the way Volvo configured it. Despite the one negative, the car is a hoot to drive, I love the blue dials and interior and did I mention the seats....to die for.
Have fun.
No, I don't know Volvomax...I just enjoyed reading his posts to this list. I've learned a lot from the whole Inside Line ...
Only problem I've had so far since I got my new car is that I haven't had enough opportunities to drive... ;-)
S
And, have a great drive!
The S4 uses Audi's Quattro sytem.
The R tranny is made by Aisin Warner, not Getrag.
Turing radius is due to small wheel wells and wide tires. Volvo should have flared the fenders to accomodate the tires, but that would have raised costs on the car.
Also I noticed an earlier post about incentives and stuff. I got my car for almost 9000 off sticker. I was told they wanted to get rid of it since it was a manual. I don't care, I actually prefer a manual, either way it is still a volvo. They had the car marked with 5000.00 off but some smooth talking got them down even more. Also there financing is different with each model but Volvo only offer was like 1.9 or 2.9 for 36 months. I went with capital one, it seemed pretty easy. You get approved in minutes and they send you a blank check in the mail to fill out when you buy the car. So far it worked out nicely for me.
Thanks Abby
Abby, great negotiating.
Re shifting, although you may get different opinions, I find downshifting more fun than upshifting. I hardly ever use the brakes (except in an emergency of course) but rather use downshifting to control the speed downward. When I get down to a real slow speed, for example, at a red light, I slip the car from 2nd into neutral and use the brakes to come to a completer stop. If you can upshift, you can downshift. Just keep practicing...once you find the sweetspot in the clutch it will come naturally. Hope this helps and have fun driving.
thanks abby
I would think, even with a base s60, your line should be around 2K. So the highest gear possible that keeps you at or above the 2K mark.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Three questions:
(1) How does Volvo run its model year? Does the 2005 model mean that it is new in 2005 or new in 2004? My guess is that the model year=the year of introduction, but just want to be sure.
(2) Has anyone with a 2004 S60R experience anything negative with their car?
(3) Are there any questions you wish you would have asked the dealer before taking possession of the car but didn't?
Thanks very much.
1. The T5 I drove had a fantastic stereo system. I have since looked up several S60's on ebaymotors.com to view interior photos. Apparently, the head unit in my test S60 is very rare, because I have only seen one or two with the same characteristics. I remember this about it: It had three buttons ABOVE the CD slot, two of whose labels I can't recall except the third one, which was the selector for Dolby Surround Sound. My question is, what are the available systems on this year/model and what are the differences among them? Can I get the same sound from an S60 with the head unit that does not have those three buttons? Or was my test S60 equipped with THE premium sound system, and no other will sound the same?
2. The test S60 had 70k miles. This is a tad high for a 2001. The price was just under $14k. Any thoughts on this? I am under the impression that this will be a very reliable/mostly trouble-free vehicle. Am I wrong? Please let me know what types of things usually go wrong around 70k. Thanks!
3. A few people have complained about the turning radius. I am used to the handling of my Saab which can pull a U-turn in a space about double its width. My mother's Buick, on the other hand, takes more than two lanes of space to do a u-turn, and I usually have to reverse and straighten out a few times when parking it in a lot. Is the Volvo S60 going to be so cumbersome to handle in tight spaces? My main concern is parking between two cars (in lots as well as parallel) and taking sharp corners inside parking garages.
I really appreciate ALL of your help and insight! I look forward to your responses. When I finally get my S60, I will be sure to post my experiences here.
What do you mean by deeply discounted? 05 S60R's are selling for 9K off retail. Why buy a car that has been sitting around for a year when you can get this deal?
dave
This was dropped in May.
Does anyone know if it will be back in June or July?
Regular system won't sound as good.
If you read this forum you can see many people are buying these cars for significant discounts off retail. However, it could be the major discounts are being offered to S60R's with manual transmissions? Let's face it the 06's will be out soon and Volvo wants to move these cars. Of course, your mileage will vary with what you want and how many dealers you have in your area. but I wouldn't be afraid to ask if I were you..at least a few dealers close to you. Good luck.
Thanks for the advice!
dave
Certainly never advisable to have a leased car out of warranty. You are paying to fix something that you are essentially renting. That's rough.
I'm surprised you can't get them to cover more on the transmission. At just 600 miles out of warranty, I'd think they'd be willing to pick up more of the bill, if not all of it. Did you fight with corporate personally, or just the dealership?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Its scary that Volvo wont do the necessary at only 600 miles over......that stinks. Write a letter to an Auto mag and let the chips fall where they may!
I am approaching 50,000 on my 2001 which I bought after the lease expired. I hope I aint going to get this type of stuff happening. Incidentally I am still waiting after TWO MONTHS for my title and other necessary paperwork. If Volvo's cars were as slow as their paper pushers they would be out of the market.
Volvo charges a lot of money for their repairs. for instance, we need to fix the motor mount which has cracked rubber, it is $160.00
$14K sounds like a good price though, they would be at least $21 here in Silicon Valley
I have S80 - 94K miles - has changed the pads 3 times but have original rotors. If you bring your car for a regular maintenance a decent mechanic should give you pretty accurate estimate when you need to change the brake pads, so you will not ruin the rotors.