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fintail

If it is high style modern furniture from that era, it could have value. I think some catalog houses had designs by noted people.

But if it isn't, the intrinsic value may exceed market value. I remember when we cleared out my great-grandmother's place in 1999 (she remained in the house until age 99, not bad), we gave away most of the common old upholstered and general 50s-70s style stuff to relatives and neighbors, as it wasn't going to be worth the effort of selling. I was a student at the time, and didn't take any of it.

houdini1 said:

We still have our antique bedroom set which we bought new from Montgomery Wards in 1968. That thing must be worth a fortune by now. It's in one of the guest rooms, built of solid wood, and apparently it will never wear out.

stever

Our stuff is like @houdini1's - weighs a ton and the sellers moved to PA and didn't want to pay the freight. And it fits the vernacular architecture around here and would look a bit out of place back East or up your way.

thebean

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

Yes, yes, yes!!!!

jmonroe

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

That would be allowing the minority to rule. That goes against everything I have ever believed in or have done. It will die off if given no attention.

I was here first and I ain't leaving because of something like this. Others can chime in with their feelings and if I am shown to be wrong, I'll leave when the others leave.

jmonroe

thebean

andres3 said:

My above post was really long, so here is the short version and summary conclusion quoted/copied and pasted from link above written by Robert O. Yowell: The estimated effects reveal that the assertion that speed kills, and more speed kills more is mostly unfounded. The model employed does not allow me to reject faithfully the null hypothesis that raising the speed limit in the examined states had no effect on fatality rates, adjusting for several factors. Table 2 organizes the results of Table 1 by resulting speed limit, revealing no visible correlation between state speed limit and its effect on fatality rate. Given the inquiry here, there is no widespread positive relationship between raising the speed limit and fatality rate. And another gov't oops!: ....It is worthy to note that repeal proponents cite a factually false report by the NHTSA, which exaggerated the Autobahn fatality rate, as ammunition against the repeal. The NHTSA has since apologized for the issuance of the information,....... For those that like to read in a book style format, here's another good one: https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFhkehz-Ky0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA257&dq=speed+limit+repeal+fuel+economy&ots=O2gj21eYsY&sig=KilLE2skiWMmiuGH08YnhAzcjG4#v=onepage&q&f=false Chapter 8 is key.

Sigh.

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Someone mentioned I should cancel my Sirius Radio since my car has been destroyed. I called today and they were very accommodating, compared to the way they were in the early days....very untrustworthy! I hope they really can be trusted now. Here is what they will do.......my subscription is good to May 15 2017. They will put my account on hold for max of 90 days. Just before the 90 days, on Dec 19, I call and hold the account for 90 days again. About that time I should have my new car with 6 months free Sirius. I keep my subscription on hold until the 6 months free are up, then they will use the money in my account toward a new subscription when the old one is over.......hopefully that will be at a sane reduced rate...not their full MSRP.

Thanks for reminding me to look into that....hate for it to keep gioing and then automatically get renewed for full price in May, for a car that isn't on the road.

It sounds like you have the automatic renewal subscription thing. If you do you should cancel that feature ASAP.

I have had Sirius since 2009 and I have never opted for that automatic thing. I have them send me a bill after I tell them I'll cancel if they don't give me the past years rate and I do this for both cars every year at different times because of when the cars were purchased. There is a 2 dollar fee to have the bill sent but I would rather pay the billing fee than try to unwind an automatic charge that hits my credit card every year at the full pop rate.

FWIW, I think their customer service is better today than years ago but I never really had a problem with there old people; it's just that they seem to be more accommodating the last few years.

jmonroe

That would be worth trying the next time around. For $2 it would be well worth it. For now, I mark the date for renewal on my calendar, and it comes up a few weeks before the deadline. They tell me what the cost to renew will be and I tell them I won't pay more than I did last time, and they kind of hesitate and then give it to me at about the same rate.

I find they are "more accommodating" the last few years to........the old scam tricks just backfire.

Mr_Shiftright

So......how 'bout them Cubs?

driver100

jmonroe said:

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

That would be allowing the minority to rule. That goes against everything I have ever believed in or have done. It will die off if given no attention.

I was here first and I ain't leaving because of something like this. Others can chime in with their feelings and if I am shown to be wrong, I'll leave when the others leave.

jmonroe

I will be leaving with you buddie.

Those endless pieces are a waste of good cyberspace.

driver100

... For those that like to read in a book style format, here's another good one: https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MFhkehz-Ky0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA257&dq=speed+limit+repeal+fuel+economy&ots=O2gj21eYsY&sig=KilLE2skiWMmiuGH08YnhAzcjG4#v=onepage&q&f=false Chapter 8 is key.

I'll study it tonight....help put me to sleep.

ab348

jmonroe said:

That would be allowing the minority to rule. That goes against everything I have ever believed in or have done. It will die off if given no attention.

I was here first and I ain't leaving because of something like this. Others can chime in with their feelings and if I am shown to be wrong, I'll leave when the others leave.

jmonroe

I don't disagree with you. So maybe flip the idea around - ask the speeding debate posters (nicely) to go create their own discussion topic on this site for that topic and leave this one for other things?

snakeweasel

stever said:

Isell already has 3 accounts - I think it's an issue on his end...

IKEA is fun but the closest one is 350 miles away so I never get to go to them. My mom was a big antiquer and burned me out on most of the old stuff, including "antique" cars.

IKEA is fun? You haven't been to the one near me (about 4 miles or so away). To get anything they make you walk through most of the store. They really should burn that thing down and shoot the architect.

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

more stuff to me that I am ignoring.

fintail

My computer has this new thing called a scroll function, it allows me to breeze past material I don't care to read. It's pretty cool

snakeweasel

houdini1 said:

stever said:

We did wind up with two circa 1905 dressers from Parral, Chihuahua, as verified by the prior owners who hooked up with the Antiques Roadshow. They came with the house. You can't really tell the difference between them and the new stuff that gets hauled up here from Juárez though.

They remind me a lot of sedans that way - I can't tell them apart either.

We still have our antique bedroom set which we bought new from Montgomery Wards in 1968. That thing must be worth a fortune by now. It's in one of the guest rooms, built of solid wood, and apparently it will never wear out.

Hate to tell you this but for furniture, or anything else, to be an antique it must be 100 years old or older. So keep it for another 52 years and you will be set.

snakeweasel

Mr_Shiftright said:

Accident risk is not linear to speed increases but as absolute speed increases, so does accident risk probability.

Bottom line, the faster you go, the less time to react, and the greater the force with which you hit something.

Not only is there less time to react but it takes longer to react. Double your speed and stopping distance goes up 4 times. Not only that but it is harder to turn and to swerve to miss an obstacle. It also make it harder to regain control if you start to lose it.

jmonroe

fintail said:

My computer has this new thing called a scroll function, it allows me to breeze past material I don't care to read. It's pretty cool

Gee, my old computer has the same thing.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

isellhondas4 said:

Thanks for the kind words. You are hearing frustration out of me. For, literally twenty years I have been isellhondas and now I can no longer log in under that name. A moderator walked me through the problem a few months ago and I just hate to ask again. I will probably become a part time lurker although I have to say I really miss this place and all of you.

Craig

Then stay, what's in a name? A rose by any other name will still have thorns. If it didn't bother Romeo that Juliets name was Capulet (or should I use Pyramus and Thisbe?) why should it bother anyone of us that you now have a 4 after your name. Stay a while.

snakeweasel

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

Let's just ignore it and let it wither on the vine.

snakeweasel

Mr_Shiftright said:

So......how 'bout them Cubs?

They should have done better against Milwaukee.

stever

snakeweasel said:

stever said:

Isell already has 3 accounts - I think it's an issue on his end...

IKEA is fun but the closest one is 350 miles away so I never get to go to them. My mom was a big antiquer and burned me out on most of the old stuff, including "antique" cars.

IKEA is fun? You haven't been to the one near me (about 4 miles or so away). To get anything they make you walk through most of the store. They really should burn that thing down and shoot the architect.

I've only been to the Seattle one about three or four times in my life, and even I know where the shortcuts are.

You've been doing way too much freeway driving.

(How's smashwords doing btw? My MIL, rest her soul, has some of her books there. No idea who's collecting the royalties)

andres3

Anyone know a lawyer in Vista, CA that'll work Pro-Bono on a red light traffic case?

What a waste; really not looking forward to that day, but heck, $550 or so is on the line, so I at least have to take a swing.

I think a trial by declaration (mail) might be my best bet.

Pros: No wasted time pleading not guilty in person at the Court; can do it all by mail. Get a free shot at a Trial De Novo when/if (yeah right) I lose by mail (retrial is with Officer present). With standard trial you have to waste two morning or two afternoons (one to plead/arraignment, one for actual trial).

Cons: Have to pay the full amount of the fine as bail ahead of time, and wait for a refund should I be lucky enough to win the case or have it dismissed. Probably not as effective for having the officer forget about the ticket and not show up as just scheduling a normal trial to begin with (without forcing him to write a letter in a previous trial by declaration). Sort of invests him in the case to show up.

I blew it when I didn't ask for the County Seat at the time of the citation. That would have increased my chances of a no-show dismissal by at least 1,000% as it is a Vista based Sheriff with the North county court in Vista! The County seat would have made him drive 25+ miles away!

If I lose my case, it was because I didn't demand the County Seat; costly mistake. I'm getting slow in my old age.

houdini1

fintail said:

If it is high style modern furniture from that era, it could have value. I think some catalog houses had designs by noted people.

But if it isn't, the intrinsic value may exceed market value. I remember when we cleared out my great-grandmother's place in 1999 (she remained in the house until age 99, not bad), we gave away most of the common old upholstered and general 50s-70s style stuff to relatives and neighbors, as it wasn't going to be worth the effort of selling. I was a student at the time, and didn't take any of it.

houdini1 said:

We still have our antique bedroom set which we bought new from Montgomery Wards in 1968. That thing must be worth a fortune by now. It's in one of the guest rooms, built of solid wood, and apparently it will never wear out.

Just kidding about it being worth a fortune fin. It is just good sturdy furniture that suits us.

imidazol97

@isellhondas

I just realized that if you can't use the Isellhondas nom de plume you lose the count of all
your posts from more years than most of us have been on here and more recently lose your
likes and lol's counts. I'd have to change my pen name and lose my counts.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

Scroll, scroll, scroll your boat, gently down the stream...

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

Whaddaya think, gang, if this ridiculous speeding debate keeps up here, should we just change the title of the forum and move over to another one where that is off-topic and not to be discussed ad nauseum?

Scroll, scroll, scroll your boat, gently down the stream...

The ol' stream is pretty dry and rocky right about now...

oldfarmer50

Hey, why doesn't driver100 get this as his replacement?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-mercedes-amg-gt-r-first-ride-review?mag=cdb&list=nl_dvr_news&src=nl&date=091916

berri

So......how 'bout them Cubs?
They should have done better against Milwaukee

Well they had to back into the clinch thanks to a Cards loss. They don't look too good right now and Arrieta seems to have lost it. They'll blow it! They should have left Wrigley and built that new stadium in Rosemont. Gotta get rid of the goat curse

british_rover

So what has been going on here?

driver100

Thanks for thinking of me oldfarmer;



But, this one suits me more....I prefer a more classic look to the racing model, especially in ugly green.

snakeweasel

stever said:

snakeweasel said:

stever said:

Isell already has 3 accounts - I think it's an issue on his end...

IKEA is fun but the closest one is 350 miles away so I never get to go to them. My mom was a big antiquer and burned me out on most of the old stuff, including "antique" cars.

IKEA is fun? You haven't been to the one near me (about 4 miles or so away). To get anything they make you walk through most of the store. They really should burn that thing down and shoot the architect.

I've only been to the Seattle one about three or four times in my life, and even I know where the shortcuts are.

You've been doing way too much freeway driving.

(How's smashwords doing btw? My MIL, rest her soul, has some of her books there. No idea who's collecting the royalties)

Oh Smashwords is doing OK but not as good as would hope. I have a lead on something that would promote the book via e-mail to subscribers. They only problems with it is that they charge for it and want the book to be offered at a discounted price. It might be worth it, butr not to sure.

murphydog

driver100 said:

Thanks for thinking of me oldfarmer;



But, this one suits me more....I prefer a more classic look to the racing model, especially in ugly green.

The green is a bit much, saw a flat grey convertible...that is one to drool over for sure!

snakeweasel

berri said:

So......how 'bout them Cubs?
They should have done better against Milwaukee

Well they had to back into the clinch thanks to a Cards loss. They don't look too good right now and Arrieta seems to have lost it. They'll blow it! They should have left Wrigley and built that new stadium in Rosemont. Gotta get rid of the goat curse

Well right now the games are pretty much meaningless. The Cubs are the division champs and most of the games they are playing will be against teams that have no chance to make the playoffs and the Cubs almost have a lock on home field advantage through the NL Championship. So now the Cubs have the opportunity to rest players and get other players out into the field for some playing experience. So right now having a healthy team with well rested players for the playoffs would be more important than winning games. So I am not to worried.

nyccarguy

Hey @british_rover! Welcome back! Give us the low down on what you are up to these days? Still running that used car place?

Mr_Shiftright

Well at least they beat Cincinnati--but then, who couldn't?

oldfarmer50

british_rover said:

So what has been going on here?

Well you missed some spirited washing machine discussions.

cdnpinhead

. . . and even more spirited pi**ing matches regarding speed limits and the effects thereof. Oh, and some interesting stuff as well. Welcome back, BR!

graphicguy

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

roadburner said:

graphicguy said:

RB....how willing is Swope to do skinny deals on BMWs, say a 2, 3 or 4 series?

It's now BMW of Louisville; the Swope dealer group was bought by AMSI. They would probably be willing to really deal on any of the 2016 cars- but advertised discounts run anywhere from $1600-$5000 depending on the model.

Wow....I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Just toying with the idea....not really looking. But, if I were going to pull the trigger, it would be for a '16, given they are being "discounted" and the longer warranty (compared to the '17s).

I'd take a pretty big hit on my CTS, too. And, it's running/driving very well.

So, kicking around ideas.

Thanks!

What happened to the warranty?

Driver....BMW is dropping one year from their bumper-to-bumper maintenance plan, which is 4 years on the '16s and 3 years on the '17s. So, not warranty, per se, but their shortning the maintenance they'll cover.

Maybe not a huge deal, but all of a sudden what would probably be brakes, filter changes, etc...stuff that would likely need to be addressed in that 4th year, now are not paid for by BMW.

What's that worth? I dunno....$500-$750? Maybe?

driver100

Speaking of British Rover....while in Innsbruck I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a Rover convertible. Apparently it is the only convertible SUV available. Not a bad concept I guess. I think they should offer some SUVs as more of a car model, with a trunk, say like a Jeep. Give you the advantages of an SUV but with a trunk instead of that big cavern where stuff can roll and slosh around.

graphicguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

Well at least they beat Cincinnati--but then, who couldn't?

Hey....I resemble that remark.

Reds were horrid the first half of hte season. They were just mediocre the 2nd half. They told us they would be rebuilding. But, they let key players go (Johnny Cueto) and backed the truck up for others (Homer Bailey). You can rebuild around Cueto and Joey Votto. Homer Bailey? Not so much!

Like all sports...."there's always next year".

Glad to see the Cubs back in the thick of it. I've always liked them, and enoy going to Wrigley a couple times/year. Cardinals? Obnoxious players and fans.....the LaRussa effect still lingers there.

And yes, welcome back Brittish Rover! Good to hear from you, again! What's up with you these days?

driver100

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

roadburner said:

graphicguy said:

RB....how willing is Swope to do skinny deals on BMWs, say a 2, 3 or 4 series?

It's now BMW of Louisville; the Swope dealer group was bought by AMSI. They would probably be willing to really deal on any of the 2016 cars- but advertised discounts run anywhere from $1600-$5000 depending on the model.

Wow....I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Just toying with the idea....not really looking. But, if I were going to pull the trigger, it would be for a '16, given they are being "discounted" and the longer warranty (compared to the '17s).

I'd take a pretty big hit on my CTS, too. And, it's running/driving very well.

So, kicking around ideas.

Thanks!

What happened to the warranty?

Driver....BMW is dropping one year from their bumper-to-bumper maintenance plan, which is 4 years on the '16s and 3 years on the '17s. So, not warranty, per se, but their shortning the maintenance they'll cover.

Maybe not a huge deal, but all of a sudden what would probably be brakes, filter changes, etc...stuff that would likely need to be addressed in that 4th year, now are not paid for by BMW.

What's that worth? I dunno....$500-$750? Maybe?

Thanks for explaining GG. Kind of makes me think the payout on that 4th year was getting a little high, but, then it means they aren't backing their cars as much as they used to. Then again, you pay $1200 for a 3 year bumper to bumper for Mercedes, and maybe that seems like the direct competition to BMW....so just matching that, except it is kind of included (though as we all know you do pay for it).

snakeweasel

graphicguy said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Well at least they beat Cincinnati--but then, who couldn't?

Hey....I resemble that remark.

Reds were horrid the first half of hte season. They were just mediocre the 2nd half. They told us they would be rebuilding. But, they let key players go (Johnny Cueto) and backed the truck up for others (Homer Bailey). You can rebuild around Cueto and Joey Votto. Homer Bailey? Not so much!

Like all sports...."there's always next year".

Glad to see the Cubs back in the thick of it. I've always liked them, and enoy going to Wrigley a couple times/year. Cardinals? Obnoxious players and fans.....the LaRussa effect still lingers there.

And yes, welcome back Brittish Rover! Good to hear from you, again! What's up with you these days?

Just be thankful that your not a Giants fan, Best record in baseball at the All Star break, worst record since.

Now since the All Star break the Reds are one game over 500.

snakeweasel

Now how much is too much?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/honda-taking-transmissions-level-madness-174902835.html

nyccarguy

I saw a gorgeous Estoril Blue 435 (or is it 440 now) coupe on the way home last night. It was de-badged so I couldn't tell. No front plate (which they will ticket you for in NY). It had special BMWCCA vanity plates that read JUSTA4. I suspect alluding to the fact that it is just a "regular" 435i/440i Coupe and not an ///M4. Beautiful car. Forbidden Fruit.

On a side note, I took my wife's Pilot yesterday because it had no gas (DTE 9). I stop & get coffee at a gas station on my way to work, whereas she doesn't pass a gas station so I filled it up & got my caffeine fix for the AM. It was nice to drive a car that passes when you step on it.

qbrozen

snakeweasel said:

Now how much is too much? https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/honda-taking-transmissions-level-madness-174902835.html

Can't say I understand it. My CTS had 8 and it did not even use those efficiently, IMHO. It could have easily used 5 or 6 for all acceleration and utilize a super high 7th for steady state cruising. Yet the RPM differences between the top 3 gears was negligible.

roadburner

I have no complaints about the 8 speed ZF autobox. I think that programming and the ratio spacing have a significant impact on driveability and performance.

roadburner

I drove a couple of new X1s on extended interstate trips yesterday(dealer trades). At a 75 mph average both returned over 34.5 mpg.

dino001

graphicguy said:

Driver....BMW is dropping one year from their bumper-to-bumper maintenance plan, which is 4 years on the '16s and 3 years on the '17s. So, not warranty, per se, but their shortning the maintenance they'll cover.

Maybe not a huge deal, but all of a sudden what would probably be brakes, filter changes, etc...stuff that would likely need to be addressed in that 4th year, now are not paid for by BMW.

What's that worth? I dunno....$500-$750? Maybe?

They are dropping quite a bit more than that. It's no longer "bumper-to-bumper x/tires" maintenance - now it's a specific items maintenance. So not only shorter, but way less inclusive. From their website, those are only included in the maintenance for 2017:

Engine Oil, Engine Filter, Brake Fluid, Cabin Micro Filter(s), Engine Air Filter(s), Spark Plugs, Remote Control/Key Battery, Vehicle Check, Fuel Filter (Diesel engines only).

As you can see, things that can really wear out, like brakes or wipers are no longer part of that. So, that may actually be worth a grand or more (brakes alone), depending how you drive. Seems I wouldn't be affected, as my brakes are still strong at 60k, but some people will see a difference. BTW, 36-50K is also period where some fluid changes kick in first time, as well - depending on reading of the computerized system.

My maintenance was quite benign - three oil changes, checks, brake fluid, brake pad sensor reset, couple of new wipers, one cabin filter, one air filter. They also put a new seam in the driver's door for free, twice - (I smashed it when getting in and out of the car and it took me two years to learn how to avoid it - this was a "courtesy" change). So the new program would drop one oil change and wipers.

The change will also open all world of possibilities for the service salespeople, for smoke called advisors. You come for a free oil change and drive away with $1000 bill for all those "essentials" not covered. On my first "free maintenance" visit I was hit with $600 worth of "suggestions", with $200 worth of "you really need it". I refused and many others would too just based on the advertising, as BMW was telling you, you pay nothing, but tires. Now they will say you pay everything except those few things. Completely different message. It's already happening - all the "free maintenance" ads have asterisks saying it's for 2016 models. Let's wait until 2016 wears off.

dino001

qbrozen said:

Can't say I understand it. My CTS had 8 and it did not even use those efficiently, IMHO. It could have easily used 5 or 6 for all acceleration and utilize a super high 7th for steady state cruising. Yet the RPM differences between the top 3 gears was negligible.

They're fighting for every drop of fuel, to meet CAFE standards. If dropping 200 rpm downhill means extra 1 percent, that's what they will do (and you will pay). Government mandated big improvements and some completely crazy numbers are being thrown by current administration for the future. If we get "continuity" there, it may become reality.

PF_Flyer

jmonroe said:

fintail said:

My computer has this new thing called a scroll function, it allows me to breeze past material I don't care to read. It's pretty cool

Gee, my old computer has the same thing.

jmonroe

Even my Commodore 64 with the first web browser I ever had was equipped with Scroll and Ignore features

sda

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On a side note, I took my wife's Pilot yesterday because it had no gas (DTE 9). I stop & get coffee at a gas station on my way to work, whereas she doesn't pass a gas station so I filled it up & got my caffeine fix for the AM. It was nice to drive a car that passes when you step on it.

Does your Pilot seem that much quicker than your Legacy? I don't find our 2wd Pilot to be that quick, though I do find the transmission to be responsive and the engine has a good sound to it when pushed.

It has become somewhat chaotic around here with gas lines and some shortages caused by the gas pipeline leak in Alabama. Gas prices are spiking as well. Leave it to the press to hype it up.