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Run, don't walk, from a dealer who sells only on price and does not offer good service facilities. Just something as simple as an oil change will cascade into a nightmare. Our car was damaged during a simple service visit for an adjustment. As I indicated, a sizable door ding was 'repaired' by a contractor who operated out of the back of his truck.
The interior was damaged by an untrained tech who attempted to remove a jammed CD from the player.
All in all, our 2004 spent more than 50 days in the shop for repairs to the damage done by a dealer staff who sold on price only. And yet, we bought a 2007. So we like the car, but are very wary of the dealer.
Hyundai has improved a bunch since then, but there are still incompetetent dealers out there, so don't buy on price only.
good way to check out the service depts until you try them.
I live in a heavily populated area and there are several
Hyundai dealers. All are big and have full service depts.
The good thing about this is that if you have bad luck at
one the warranty allows you to go to another. You are
not tied to where the car was bought.
Regards,
Flwonder
I will try this approach.
I'll get back with what kind of results I get.
When I came home I checked the Tucson and Santa Fe discussions. While there are lots of discussions on the Santa Fe there is almost nothing on the Tucson. Is the Tucson a popular small SUV? It's reviews are pretty good and KBB expects it to hold it value. Any comments?
If you say yes to all these questions you can go with the Tucson. The reason the discussion is quiet on the Tucson side is that it was introduced almost 3 years ago while the new Santa Fe is still quite new. While popular in Canada, the Tucson did not catch so much in the States. We are used up here to smaller cars due to: Higher prices, more taxes and gas price.
SE 4dr SUV AWD w/XM (3.3L 6cyl 5A) to two separate dealers today (both in Nassau County - Long Island, NY relatively near my house).
Dealer one came back with a simple quote: $24,114. This is an "special internet pricing quote" - which expires in 7 days and not valid after months end. I understand this is standard procedure.
Strictly based on the quoted number, that looks pretty good to me.
This site right here shows MSRP @ $25,845 Invoice @ $24,544 and "what others are paying" @ $25,319.
I am requesting no "optional" equipment, as all the standard features at this trim level seems to be all that I need. FYI - I'm moving away from 10 years and three different minivans (two Dodge Caravans and the current Mazda MPV ES) - to the "family friendly" SUV.
What does anyone make of the quote I just received?
quote or not. The reason it is good only for 7 days
is that the current $1000 rebate expires at the end of April
(7 days from now). Is the price OTD including tax, tag,etc.
If so it's good. You need a detailed quote to properly
evaluate.
My experience with internet quotes isn't particularly
good. Recently sent out to several and only foundone
dealer willing to cooperate. The rest played all the
normal games and won't get serious unless you come into
the store.
The Hyundai inventories are stacking up. Everywhere I
went had tons of Santa Fe's in stock. I'm waiting till
May to see if the rebate gets increased.
Good luck.
Flwonder
my dealership uses these same kind of services. our touch-up people, dent repair guy, headlight repair, and other things like that are done by contractors on our premises (we don't have an on-site body shop). Now if its something bigger than they can do here, they will take the car to their shop.
And when they don't match the paint, or the door ding isn't quite removed, or the remote body shop does a crappy job, everybody shrugs their shoulders and says that they did the best that they could. And you don't have a salesman, sales manager, of GM who give a crap because they did not get enough money on the sale. And, money drives it all. So, you may save on the front end, but, as happened with our purchase, the dealership will leave you hanging. You saved on the purchase, but they've got what little money they'll get from you and they'll move on to new customers. Been there, done that. We may have paid a little more at our full service dealer, but they bend over backwards to make sure that we are happy. For the few dollars more per month, I'll pay the extra to gain some dealership support. They want my business in the future.
I don't choose the professionals who provide the things I rely on by the cheapest available. That includes my doctor, my dentist, and the folks who service my car. I don't want to be ripped off, but I do want quality professional work at a reasonable price. Perhaps I'm painting with a very broad brush, but my experience with our previous 'discount' dealer was so awful, that I will shop for more than just price in the future.
And, no, I'm not affiliated with a dealership - I'm just a customer who learned an expensive and unpleasant lesson. :sick:
Yeah, I know there isn't a lot of detailed information there. But the bottom line is still the bottom line (as long as the vehicle quoted it the one I drive off the lot).
The $24,114 price tag does not include tax, title, or license fees. Price includes all applicable rebates.
My experience with internet (and fax prior to that) salespeople is that its a better starting point then just walking in the door and doin the whole song and dance. Plus, its far less time consuming. You already have a much lower established number to work with.
My experience has also been that once you get this number, though - there is very little negotiation room. Since these internet sales managers claim they are already giving you the best price possible (they certainly do come in lower than the floor salesman who start much higher and then are prepared to "do battle" - hey its their job).
I recieved a second quote from another dealer (via internet request)
A lease on an AWD Santa Fe SE with everything in the payment except 1st month and DMV fees is $434/month. The cost to purchase the vehicle would be $24519 including the factory rebate. These prices are good until
April 30 2006.
I'm sure the 2006 date is just a typo :P
As you can see, the purchase price of this quote is $400 higher. No doubt the dealer adding in a bit more profit for himself.
He does mention the "tax" in the lease, however. Of course that is how I would do it. Everything in the monthly payment.
I'm glad to read the inventories are stacking up. I too am going to wait until the end of May to make my deal.
Please keep posting your thoughts and experiences here in this forum, though. Reading your messages have been a big help.
I've got my eye on a 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe 3.3L GL FWD w/ Leather Package.
The starting MSRP for this model in Canada is $31,445.
I visited a dealer today where I was more so interested in comparing some of the different models available, but to give me an idea he costed out the model above.
He took the MSRP ($31,445) and added:
$1,595 for delivery and destination (freight)
$100 air conditioning tax
$75 gov't fuel tax
$4560 tax (14%)
... for a painful grand total of $37,775! Yuck?!
Now, I know that's just a high starting point; but I really don't know what price range I should be targeting from there.
I was hoping to benefit from this month's "blue ribbon event" where they claim to give a $500 credit on Santa Fe FWD vehicles, and are also offering 0% financing for a 36-month payment plan.
Anyone have any advice?? This is my first new car purchase ever... :confuse:
Thanks...
Good luck!
That is a huge differential in price.
I don't get it - Korean boats can't find their way to Canadian shores?
Canadians can purchase a Santa Fe in the US and probably save about 5000 dollars !
I got offered $26,200 from local dealer after $1,000 rebate. It's Out The Door Price of SantaFe Limited Fwd with Premium Package and Floor Mat.
Is is a good price to buy? or Do I need to contact another dealer? $1,000 rebate will be gone on April 30th.
Thanks...
Thanks, Slateblue.
rebates for May '07?
Flwonder
Also, does anyone know:
---if there are regional price differences (we live in CO) that we should be aware of.
-- Do the dealers get a "kickback" for having customers finance thru HMFC and is that something we should keep in the back of our heads like the holdback amount
-- Does Hyundai do the floorplan fee/wholesale financial reserve (another type of holdback that I've seen that Toyota does)
-- Any thoughts on Fitzmall.com. I thought of printing out one of their prices to take to the dealer. Has anyone bought from them with good success and been shipped a vehicle?
Sorry for the length of this. This is a great board that has been very helpful. We haven't bought a new car in many years and this board has got us fired up to get a great deal! Thanks for your help.
I think the Mariner is really better compared with the Tuscon, as it is also smaller than the Santa Fe by nearly a foot (12 cubic feet cargo) and 500 lbs, and *still* the Tuscon has way more standard safety features and such. The Mariner has a similar residual value as the Santa Fe, but as the Tuscon is about the same and cheaper to boot, I think it makes a better investment for a lease. And I think Hyundais have a better chance to see their residual values go up as they become more popular (I see a lot of Tuscons and Santa Fes) compared to Mercury.
I may be biased because I tried the Santa Fe, Outlander, and CR-V and came away
a) disappointed in the CR-V's ride, engine (pokey!), and some interior styles
b) understanding the Outlander really isn't meant for non-sporty enthusiasts with its ride (really really rough) but otherwise nice
c) happy with the Santa Fe overall.
I'm not trying to say that the Tucson is a bad vehicle and even though I now drive the Mariner I still hold the Santa Fe in high regard, but I just wanted to clear up the safety-features misconception above.
In my opinion, you have a very good quote for the Santa Fe Limited AWD with Ultimate Package. I will surely buy the Santa Fe at that price since my wife has no other choice.
Can I ask the name of the dealership that gave you the $26,200 quote?
Thank you.
pongs
This does not include $1000 rebate, or TTL. Fees totaled $200, sales tax was $1710 ($4250 trade in applied before 8% tax). OTD was $21300. The $25961 is crazy nice for the Limited AWD with premium package, which should be $27960 invoice. Has to be something up with that price, like not including a trade in, or its for the front wheel drive model.
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Does anyone have any information about the Santa Fe
rebates for May '07?
Flwonder
yes, i would like the answer to this question as well
$1000 rebate or 0% financing for
either 24 or 36 months. Also the
$500 military rebate is still in
effect.
I'm disappointed. Thought it would be
more.
Flwonder