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His idea of a gift was $14,650 plus $399 doc and a few other charges (local tax not included) Acording to this site it was decent but I want a real deal. I informed him that a dealer in denver was over a thousand cheaper, at that point he got very rude and said "Why dont you call Planet Hyundai in Vegas, they give them away heck you might pay only 13k for it out the door" I told him Planet Hyundai quoted me 13,500. At that point he said "No way they are crooks, demand expensive financing to get that price and they will cheat you. I tried to show him the quote as they gaurantee a lower price or 500 dollars in cash is yours. He said again "No way, you need to fly to Vegas and bring back a bill of sale, I dont trust them"....It is Ken Garff I dont trust.
Planet Hyundai did make one mistake with my quote....They made a quote for an automatic, when the relized I wanted a 5 speed the price went down to $12,800 after my rebates and included everything including the local tag to drive it home. I had to pay tax in UTAH....
Ken Garff is over 2k more then the Planet and now they dont want to pay me my $500. I will be standing outside their lot with a list of Planet Hyundai prices for every different Hyundai....
For $12,800 including leather, power roof, ABS, traction controll, Side airbags and a pretty nice stereo. My wife is so excited finally she has a car that she does not feel cheated on. She loves it and so do I......Thx Planet Hyundai, maby I could have saved a few more bucks grinding harder, I would like to know what the best buy out there for the full load GT is????????????????????????????
I got my Elantra GT sedan with automatic, package 8 (moonroof, ABS, traction, etc) for an out the door price of $12850 +- a few dollars. This is in southern California (Irvine to be exact).
Anyway, good luck.
Shawn
That gives me an idea, though. Next time I submit an offer for a car, I can have a line item for "market reality adjustment."
"added dealer fees"!!!!!
I finally gave up trying to deal for a Tuscon or any Hyundai, as there are plenty of other dealerships in Florida that will sell you a vehicle for Tax/Tags/License and "NO additional fees!!
He just kinda sat there.... speechless.
"Market Adjustment Fees", now that sounds insane.
"Advertising Fees", there are Advertising Fees associated with this Product, and not paid from the Manufacturer!.
"Dealer Service Fees", everything from that free Cup of Coffee to the Janitor.
"Aftermarket Sticker", the worst Fee you should see. (aside from that Market Adj. Fee)
Should you pay any Fees? If you get your Car at the best possible price, true Invoice, and all available Rebates & Discounts are applied, I have no problem with a Dealer Fee, in my case $495
That being said, I've never been charged any advertising fee or "additional dealer markup" fee when shopping for Elantras at four different Hyundai dealers in my area over the past five years. So this "advertising fee" thing is either regional, or it's practiced only in less competitive markets where dealers think they can get away with it. Fortunately for me, I live in a major metropolitan area with many car dealers, lots of competition for my money.
Nevertheless, advertising is a cost of doing business for all products and it is never added to the cost of the product. If it is not cost-beneficial to purchase the advertising, they should refrain from doing it. They certainly should not insult the buyer by trying to pass it on to him.
That's my story and I'm gonna try to stick to it.
You meant to say that advertising fees are a part of the invoice, not the sticker, right?
There are many hidden fees and charges in the sales process: some inevitable, others questionable and some just plain wrong. The required charges — destination charge, tax, title and license fees which are legitimate. The following are questionable:
Market Value Adjustment Fees. Doc or Conveyance fee: This stands for documentation fee, purportedly to cover the cost of paperwork. It's usually less than $50. Some dealers will refuse to budge on it.
Prep fee: The dealer preparation fee is assessed to cover the cost of preparing the car to hand over. This one's pretty bogus. The factory covers the prep fee. Ask precisely what this charge entails. Figure out what it should really cost and negotiate it down or out completely.
delivery charge: Be careful with this one. The factory's destination charge, which may be referred to as the delivery charge, is required and non-negotiable. Sometimes dealers tack on an additional delivery charge of their own. Don't pay both!.
Advertising fee: This one's tough for people to swallow because it can be as high as a few percent of the price, and because they don't think they should pay the cost of bringing people to the store. This is a gray area, though.
Note that the four fees above are labeled questionable, not unreasonable. Be sure to ask for an explanation of any fee you don't understand. The dealer may have taken a loss or slim profit along the way, and your fighting over something like a doc fee when the deal is nearly wrapped up may be counterproductive. Choose your battles wisely.
GLS sedan, 5 speed trans, with the moonroof/ cruise/ stereo upgrade package. Moonroof deflector, mudgaurds + floormats.
Paid $12,932 + Tax and Tags.
First Elantra was an '02 that gave me 152,000 trouble free miles. Sold for 2K to a friend.
i am going to visit a toyota dealer to ch the corella, the hyundai for the electra. and the honda for the civic. looking for a deal. will put a few thousands down. and am researching.
an input u can give me to assist me. which is the better car mechanically. i do not want a shift. but a manual. no frills, just a/c and cd. no moonroof. mostly for local and some long haul driving. my name is sandy. i am older than u all. so input would be nice. thanks.
Economy Sedans (~$16k-$20k)
regards,
kyfdx
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The Edmunds price does NOT include tax, tags, title, etc. You got a GOOD deal...Period!!!!
I got a 2005 gls automatic with just cruise control and floor mats. This was a loaner car and has 4500 miles on it. I ended up paying $13,800. Out the door price after taxes and rebate applied, etc etc was $14,070.
PS For all you '06 Elantra waiters like me, not a one in sight...yet. Did notice Kia has the Spectra '06 5 doors showin' up. Local dealer ran an add in Sunday's paper announcing the arrival of the '06's (Elantras) but their website lists nothing in stock. Misprint? Typo? Bait & Switch? Who cares! Thinkin' we're on the verge of another rebate. Yeeeeeah baby!
First of all, I was really shopping for a Toyota Corolla. I like the way they drive and was willing to pay for good quality and reliability. Many people mentioned the good prices & warranties of Hyundai, so I test drove it and was surprised at what a great car it is.
Monday I bought a silver 2005 Elantra Automatic Package 3 (with cruise control & CD, airbags, keyless entry, power windows, mirrors, door locks, A/C) Manufacturers suggested retail price was 15394. After the 1250 rebate and asking cash discount and saying I did not need trunk cargo net or mud guards (but got them anyway)...my sweet salesguy sold me the car for 13449 including freight but not tax or title. I am very happy because there was another sticker price of 16489 that included a 995 charge for appearance & protection that I knew didn't have to pay for.
I really think my salesguy at Antwerpen in Catonsville Md (which is considered Baltimore) was excellent. He removed the pinstripe on the car BEFORE I paid for it because I didn't want it & didn't provide any pressure on me at all. He said he hadn't sold a car all day and he would like to see me buy a car. I didn't "negotiate" with anyone else and just paid a check to the financial manager.
Maybe I paid too much but I only spent one day going to 3 different dealers after doing all my research on the internet. The first dealer (Bob Bell) in Glen Burnie didn't have what I wanted in stock and said the weekend wiped out their selection. He also took 2 days to call me back about other dealers availability. The second dealer (Spirit of Hyundai in Annapolis) disappeared into the store while I looked around the parking lot and I had to search for him. Once I said I didn't need all the appearance protection stuff (which was 1000 more than at Antwerpen) he told me I absolutely had to "negotiate" with the General Manager. I told him I just wanted a simple price and he was still insistent.
Also Antwerpen has a huge selection of cars right off the boat. My car was covered with shipping paper when I first looked at it.
But there is also something to be said for getting a decent deal and having a pleasurable, no-hassle buying experience. I think that is why the "no haggle" dealerships that are popping up all over are popular. They don't offer the very best price possible, but you know that you are getting a good discount and no one else who shops there will get a better discount.
Yes, I've seen ads like these and have read the fine print. You need to a) own a Hyundai already, b) qualify for the military rebate, c) qualify for the student rebate, d) pay a "processing fee" or similar that is usually several hundred dollars, and e) get there early because it's almost always "one only, stock #xxxxxx".
My guess it has something to do with the high gas prices. Anyone else is seeing similar phenomenon?
I paid 11,300,before taxs and tags with a 1995 Maxima with 137,000 miles an no air bags as a trade.
The car was sticker at 14,849
Used the 1250 rebate and got other rebates from the Dealership.
Did I get a decent deal on this car?
And about the "processing fee". Yes, we have spoken before about this and other fees. However if you are getting a killer deal, as noted on the Edmunds tips about fees, you might consider paying it . Example, my Dealer fee of $499.95 is built into the purchase agreement form. As it is my Dealer took a loss on my Elantra, but only gave me a fair offer on my trade in. I did go home with $7000 Cash, dig that!
You really must share your secret of how you did that. For instance, when I bought an Elantra last year and there was a loyalty rebate, I had to show proof of ownership for my other Hyundai. How did you get around that? And how did you get the military rebate without qualifying, or the student rebate? If just anyone can get these without qualifying, that would be very useful to know.
I have an extended warranty (10yr/100,000 mile) top of the line Platinum warranty for my Santa Fe. I brought it in for a problem it had and was told that it required a $120. assessment fee! This dealer had provided good service until they hired this manager and instituted a change of policy (allegedly by Hyundai) which essentially nullifies coverage under their warranties, even those costing over $1000. Hyundai has completely gutted their warranty. A relatively recent change is the exclusion of the entire emissions system. Their are many exclusions introduced each quarter yet the sales staff continue to sell the good (and they were) points of their initial bumper to bumper warranty.
Be sure to consider their support in light of the need for repairs.
Also, if you're trying to obtain quotes you can forget about it. They run through staff so quickly that any deal struck quickly becomes obsolete. :P :P :P
It's hard to believe that a manager at a dealership could nullify coverage under Hyundai's warranties. Not even Hyundai can unilaterally nullify an in-force warranty--it is a contract. You should report that behavior to Hyundai Customer Support. They can't simply introduce exclusions every quarter to in-force warranties. They can of course make ongoing changes to new warranties. For example, a few years ago the powertrain warranty was transferrable within the original owner's immediate family. Now that is no longer the case.
Also, Hyundai must cover the emissions system on their cars. There are federal and state regulations about warranty coverage on emissions systems that they must follow, at a minimum.
Maybe you should try a different dealership, if there are others in your area.
I don't quite understand it all myself? I bought at a huge Multi Branded Dealership owned by a Congressman in Miami. They had not moved a single Hyundai that day. I didn't go there to name my own price or bargain with them, frankly unaware of all the different rebates, I had "the Ad". My Subaru XT Trade in was valued at $18,300. The 05 Elantra GLS A/T with Package 2 (cruise control, & mats) was $11,3000. I took home a check for $7000. Now it was a little harder than it seemed to obtain the final results, but that's how it went down!
Stopped by my friendly neighborhood Hyundai dealer in search of the end of year, end of quarter, end of month deal on a new Elantra GT. NOT exactly my dream car but one I'm considering amongst others (Dang I wish that Zoomer 3 hatch w/160 ponies wasn't so overpriced!). Since my trade ain't gonna fetch a whole lot ('00 Protege' w/177,000 in MINT condition BTW), wonderin' if Mr. & Mrs. Hyundai corporation is going to help me by increasin' that rebate a bit after Friday's deadline for an early next month sale (you listenin' doohickie?). Sales fella quickly brings me inside to show me "the latest" from HQ. I paraphrase: "Due to hurricane Katrina...gas prices...market forces...factory didn't build enough Elantra's for current year...blah, blah, blah...the current rebate will be removed from the Elantra lineup after 9/30. None to follow. Will allow corporation to increase rebates in other model lineups. Should reduce supply outstanding..."
My thoughts: Whadduh crock!!! Let me get this straight Hyundai. Your very dated 5 year old 2005 Elantra overstock will now be sold at full price. Even though we are on the doorstep of the '06's showing up. (Again, sales fella feigns no clue on the actual arrival date..."November or something" he says.).
Wow! Do people actually believe this stuff?! First it was the $500 loyalty b.s.(nope haven't owned one and I might never at this discriminatory slap in the face) and now it's the "we didn't build enough cars" statement. Waaaaahooooo! Gotta love the horse theivin' business!