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My son in law said that they were averaging something like 30MPG,but maybe thats only on the trip computer.It does definitely ride better than the Escape though.Otherwise the Ford product is a much better value.
BTW I dont believe the 4WD Escape will average 30MPG,but the 2WD will.
2wd HiHy (52 participants) 26.3 mpg average
2wd FEH (163 participants) 31.8 mpg average
(I quoted 25 and 30 to account for 4wd) Anyway, its a 5mpg difference when comparing apples to apples.
The HiHy is a great vehicle, it's just not as much of an environmentally friendly alternative - unless it is replacing a Tahoe, a Yukon, Expedition, etc. on the road. Happy motoring.
$32,500 would be would be over list.I dont know at what rate Canadian dollars exchange with American.
since he told me 4-6 weeks for delivery.
I checked recently for a status of my order and was told by dealer that all FEH's are on "National Back Order" (whatever that means). Checked 2 days ago with FORD Customer Service who advised that they are presently building June special orders but couldn't give me a time when June orders would be completed.
Yesterday, I received a call from a different FORD dealer, one that I had visited while shopping for the vehicle I wanted. He says he had just received 2 2008's and wanted to know if I were still interested. Unfortunately, mine has been ordered with a $1,000 Non-refundable deposit.
At the time I was shopping I only found one available. It was loaded with every option available and some additional dealer installed accessories. They were asking a hefty price along with a $3,000 "adendum" they called it.
(in other words a $3,000 mark-up over the retail sticker)
That's when I decided to order at my local dealer.
The dealer who called me regarding the two that he claims to have is located in Chantilly, VA. I have no idea of their pricing.
I have been told by a different dealer altogether that FEH orders have been turned over to a FORD division in Detroit and that this usually only happens when the delay problem is caused by suppliers and not by the Ford Production facility. (maybe its the electric motor supplier?)
I don't have a clue as to how true that is, so I'll just continue to wait.
Rnarg
ps.If anyone knows where I can find one matching the following options please send me a message:
Options wanted:
2008 Ford Escape Hybrid FWD
Black Pearl
Leather
Chrome
Navigation System
Even more surprised given that Bow Valley Ford in Canmore, AB likely isn't a major seller compared to the big city dealers across Canada and the United States.
Stephen
Has not of the options except NAV. Would of likes to have the hybrid screens but don't need the GPS side.. The Escape was built 2 weeks before I bought it.
Wasn't aware the FEH came equiped with Navigation as an independent stand alone option. Everything I have observed indicates if you have Navigation in the Hybrid it is coupled with the Energy Flow Monitor (hybrid screen)you mention you wish you had, and also the audiophile am/fm 6CD stero option. As I understand it, the only one of these 3 you can get alone is the audiophile system.
If you actually have Navigation, are you sure you don't have the other 2? (If you have Navigation alone maybe it was installed as an accessory?)
Also, buyers who qualify for x plan pricing are offered this $500 incentive in certificate form.
Only problem is, this incentive ends on 10/01/2007, and the date that is used to qualify is the date the vehicle is delivered to you, the buyer. So us poor souls who may have the $500 incentive but are still waiting on FORD to deliver the vehicle will most likely be out of luck since I doubt we "waiters" will receive our vehicles by 10/01/2007.
On the other hand, if after 10/01/07 for some strange reason FORD provides another incentive (more than or less than the $500 one) we "waiters" will qualify for whatever rebates etc are applicable on the date of delivery. ( I know this is true for X plan buyers, so I would imagine the same procedure would apply to all buyers.
rnarg
After providing FORD with the information they requested on my particular order, they responded within 24 hours with the following:
"Our records indicate that your vehicle has been serialized and is awaiting schedule date and estimated time of arrival. There are a great number of variables that may affect production scheduling and delivery: 1. option packages 2. special powertrain combinations 3 delivery delays of components. Other variables that may also affect the delivery date of your vehicle include: 1. Certification and quality inspections 2. Transportation of the vehicle to the specified dealership. As such, it is not possible to guarantee a specific delivery date. Your sales representative at your selling dealership is in the best position to track your vehicle order. We recommend contacting the dealership's Sales Dept for further assistance in this matter."
Please excuse me while I retire again to "the waiting" room.
Kiwi green
Moonroof
Chrome Package
Leather Package
Paid ~27K
Some consider this an out right scam. With the method they are using Ford could offer a $10,000 rebate on an ordered vehicle to get customers to buy, and then simply make certain they don't deliver the vehicle until after the incentive's expiration date!
In my particular case, for them to follow with a $1000 factory cash incentive on 2008 Escapes and not on 2008 Escape Hybrids is certainly demonstrating that it doesn't pay to buy the Hybrid version.-------Thus, "why it doesn't pay to go green".
Don't even get me started on the bait and switch hybrid tax credit - absolutely ridiculous.
Since Ford could use this tactic again and again at their discretion and regardless of supply and demand, it seems they may be exposing themselves to a conflict of interest charge.
About a week after my visit they contacted me with an offer to purchase at msrp sticker price.
If there are none around, the dealer is usually aware of it and they will take advantage of the situation with the dreaded "market adjustment". However, I found that if you are willing and able to wait you can still negotiate a reasonable price below MSRP on a special order of the exact vehicle with the options you desire.
Since there is currently a $1000 rebate available in most areas on the 2008 Escape NON HYBRIDS , you might consider purchasing a 4 cyl rather than the hybrid if you are only interested in MPG savings. Considering the $1000 rebate and the better price you can negotiate on the 4cyl and the fact that you can probably find a 4cyl gas powered presently on the dealers lot, it will take you quite some time to recover the $1000 rebate and the difference you must pay purchasing the hybrid vs one conventially powered.
Ford has this figured out, so in order to push the non hybrid Escapes they began offering the $1,000 cash incentive effective 10/02/07. (Don't forget the $2200 tax credit that you will be giving up and the possibility of giving up some HOV benefits if you go with the conventional gasoline powered model.
Also, there appears to be many Hybrids from different Manufacturers that will be entering the market soon. When that happens it will be interesting to watch what happens to Fords selective Escape rebate program and the Ford dealers "market adjustments"
I visited Koons Ford in FallsChurch to place an order for one of the first FEHs in the summer of 2004. At that time they wanted an $8000 premium on top of the sticker price.....the salesman was down to $4000 by the time I was walking out the door.
[This year I realized the first big Personal Property tax savings break - $0 tax on the first $20k assessed value - I own an '06 I bought in VA in '06] The savings are not always a much as advertised but they continue to come from unexpected places. (And oil is at almost $100/ barrel)
Once they began building, Lucky (Mike) told me their finish date was about Oct. 19th. On the 16th, he called and it was in. I also tried to get the Illinois financing for a $1000 rebate. There are no banks near me, so I had to apply an hour away in Rockford. The bank turned me down, not knowing my situation, and I lost that rebate too. Ford approved us in 2 minutes and I took the 4.9% for 3 years.
I think if everyone figures 2 to 4 months for delivery and expect no rebates- you will then be happy- and anything better than that would be a small bonus. Gr8 car-still on first tank of gas. Good luck. :surprise:
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Having decided to give up my Wrangler in favor of a Mercury Mariner Hybrid, I armed myself with a X-Plan PIN number and arrived at my local Stuart, Florida Mercury Dealer. Surprise: they don't sell or maintain Mariner Hybrids.
Went across the street to the Ford Dealer. There were zero Escape Hybrids there, but the sales rep said that I could order one and wait two months for delivery. The sales manager said that 1% of Escape production is the hybrid model.
And one wonders why Ford stock is in the tank?
When I got my FEH, the salesman went over maintenance and said oil changes are every 10,000 miles- I just looked it up and it says 12 month , 10,000 mile max between oil changes. I hope there aren't any major expenses, maybe the '06 and '07 FEH owners can share their expenses with us on here.
I have read that in 2008 Ford will make another hybrid in a sedan config....I wonder if it will be possible to actually buy one.