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Here's the EPA's take on NOx:
"Current scientific evidence links short-term NO2 exposures, ranging from 30 minutes to 24 hours, with adverse respiratory effects including airway inflammation in healthy people and increased respiratory symptoms in people with asthma.
Also, studies show a connection between breathing elevated short-term NO2 concentrations, and increased visits to emergency departments and hospital admissions for respiratory issues, especially asthma.
NO2 concentrations in vehicles and near roadways are appreciably higher than those measured at monitors in the current network. In fact, in-vehicle concentrations can be 2-3 times higher than measured at nearby area-wide monitors. Near-roadway (within about 50 meters) concentrations of NO2 have been measured to be approximately 30 to 100% higher than concentrations away from roadways.
Individuals who spend time on or near major roadways can experience short-term NO2 exposures considerably higher than measured by the current network. Approximately 16% of U.S housing units are located within 300 ft of a major highway, railroad, or airport (approximately 48 million people). This population likely includes a higher proportion of non-white and economically-disadvantaged people.
NO2 exposure concentrations near roadways are of particular concern for susceptible individuals, including people with asthma asthmatics, children, and the elderly
The sum of nitric oxide (NO) and NO2 is commonly called nitrogen oxides or NOx. Other oxides of nitrogen including nitrous acid and nitric acid are part of the nitrogen oxide family. While EPA’s National Ambient Air Quality Standard (NAAQS) covers this entire family, NO2 is the component of greatest interest and the indicator for the larger group of nitrogen oxides.
NOx react with ammonia, moisture, and other compounds to form small particles. These small particles penetrate deeply into sensitive parts of the lungs and can cause or worsen respiratory disease, such as emphysema and bronchitis, and can aggravate existing heart disease, leading to increased hospital admissions and premature death.
Ozone is formed when NOx and volatile organic compounds react in the presence of heat and sunlight. Children, the elderly, people with lung diseases such as asthma, and people who work or exercise outside are at risk for adverse effects from ozone. These include reduction in lung function and increased respiratory symptoms as well as respiratory-related emergency department visits, hospital admissions, and possibly premature deaths.
Emissions that lead to the formation of NO2 generally also lead to the formation of other NOx. Emissions control measures leading to reductions in NO2 can generally be expected to reduce population exposures to all gaseous NOx. This may have the important co-benefit of reducing the formation of ozone and fine particles both of which pose significant public health threats. "
FF to your posted link, seeking to stem wood burning in fireplaces has been true for quite awhile. So yes burning of wood-burning fireplaces (9,200) is approximately 708 times more pollution producing than the TDI population(13). We also hide the gasser (death) rates! As IF there are ZERO deaths. Yet, we chicken little the VW TDI's.! ?
"The world's best-selling auto maker said that by 2050, gas-electric hybrids, plug-in hybrids, fuel-cell cars and electric vehicles will account for most of its global vehicle sales, without giving a detailed breakdown.
That means gasoline- and diesel-engine powered cars, currently accounting for roughly 85 per cent of Toyota global vehicle sales, would be near zero, Senior Managing Officer Kiyotaka Ise said.
"It wouldn't be easy for gasoline and diesel cars to survive," Mr Ise told a media briefing in Tokyo. "With such massive decline in engine-powered cars, it's like the world is turning upside down and Toyota has to change its ways.
Last year, around 14 per cent of Toyota's global sales were hybrid vehicles, including plug-ins."
Toyota maps decline of petrol cars (theaustralian.com.au)
Don't see a cite for "world's best-selling auto maker" lol.
Toyota lost some major money (minus- billions) while VW was making major money (+ billions) , albeit, for three years in a row.
Indeed, when Toyota was able to come up for air, Toyota had to put even more money in to restructure Toyota globally. Articles confirm what I have said.
VW has done restructuring I.e., MQB. It was/is not enough. VW has to shake off the grip of the lower saxony politicians ( controls 20%) and stop VW labor unions gravy trains. ( they also control a% of stock) More importantly labor needs to get much more productivity. Hans and Franz are used to getting seven weeks vacation with a bonus as pin money. I.e., CUT/CUT.
You are right, a LOT has to change. Total swag on my part, but VW has to cut a minimum of 10% headcount just to tread water. Treading water as you probably can guess is the kiss of death. Without an increase in productivity, and much lower costs, it can be literally over: game, set, match!
Well given my "ISIS branded" gasser 94/96 TLC's, ( don't have the machine gun mounts yet) we seriously are looking at 30 years of operation (2024/2026) . I seriously think that (my)?diesels will be around for @ least another 30 years.
"The world's best-selling auto maker said that by 2050, gas-electric hybrids, plug-in hybrids, fuel-cell cars and electric vehicles will account for most of its global vehicle sales, without giving a detailed breakdown.
Well I don't imagine I will still be driving at 107 years of age. Though there are those people that are. My Touareg TDI will only be at half life of 37 years of age. Young as cars go.
Most classic car owners are accustomed to the unusual looks other motorists cast toward their relics on the road. But when Margaret Dunning is behind the wheel of her 1930 Packard 740 Roadster, she draws more attention than her vehicle.
Dunning, age 102, may be one of a small handful of classic-car drivers who can lay claim to the fact they're older than their vehicles.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/18/102-year-old-woman-still-drives-her-82-year-old-car/
We are making things so eco-friendly and/or so safe that no one can afford to buy them anymore. We do it with houses (engineering overkill for every 1 in 1,000 year storm/wind/earthquake), and cars.
It all comes down to the law of diminishing returns, we are spending way too much money/capital chasing way too little of a benefit.
But the VW fraud isn't the same thing. They cheated, and they got caught. They didn't want to pay to license BlueTec from MB, they saved a few hundred per car, they sold more as a result. They should be held accountable.
The range on the 2009 Jetta TDI is between 38 and 42 mpg in a punishing 58 miles R/T commute. If I take that on the road and cruise it between 80/85 mph, ( I do not use cruise control) it's kind of a no-brainer to get from 41 to 44 mpg. A/C blasting, of course.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
For the US, there really aren't any other direct competitors to the small VW cars. GM was apparently able to get the current Cruze Turbo Diesel to pass the stringent emission standards but it was a significant hurdle and they used the US diesel Cruze program to prepare for the upcoming, more stringent European diesel standards. It also required significant hardware (lean NOx trap and selective catalyst reduction/SCR (DEF)) which is one reason the Cruze took a slight hit in city economy compared to the Golf/Jetta but was able to run leaning on the highway and had slightly better economy (somewhat common for diesel cars using SCR/DEF).
GM has said they're committed to bringing the next gen Cruze diesel to the American market since that car's new 1.6L engine was designed with global emission targets from the start. I imagine that VW should be able to eventually certify and sell the model year '16+ cars with little more than a software calibration change since they already have SCR (DEF) injection. It's probably going to harm VW's new and conquest sales but they still have a lot of customers that like how their TDI powered vehicles drive.
Same thing with a lot of the higher end luxury cars. While some trendy buyers might have bought into the "clean" aspect, I'd suspect a larger majority place a higher priority on the power delivery, range and economy and will still buy in similarly small percentages of overall sales.
If anything might help spur diesel sales is the truck and CUV/SUV market. With vehicles like the Ram getting a diesel for the half-ton 1500, the GM Colorado/Canyon twins now available with a diesel, work vans available with diesel and I suspect other small utility vehicles in the pipeline, a lot of new buyers are getting exposed to diesels. It's absolutely possible to build a clean running diesel, just more complex and expensive, but if consumers experience it and have favorable impressions it should only help passenger car sales (but I still don't see those numbers jumping dramatically).
That would be me for sure. I don't want to drive a car with a cloud of black smoke spewing out the back. Diesel vehicles have not done that since D2 formula was mandated to have less than 15 PPM sulfur. The major health risk was the sulfur. Same as the major health risk with gasoline was the lead for 75 years before the EPA got the lead out. The worst part about this witch hunt over NOx is the fact that it is worse with BioDiesel. I was looking forward to running biodiesel when VW gave the go ahead. They may be leery with all the latest brouhaha.
That said, I've wanted a European-style diesel vehicle with a manual transmission since 2001, when I first drove one in Germany. Looks like I've got an even longer wait than I've endured so far.
I've only worked my way through the first 300-400 posts since the feces hit the rotating object, but am looking forward to more entertainment as the rest unfold.
Zealot(s), party on!
So if they decide to put a combination of Ad Blue and/or SCR emissions systems or both in the 2009 Jetta TDI, the Fed will make VW slap a warranty on it, up to 10 years/100,000 miles. So if they do this later than sooner, the emissions system could possibly be warranteed up to 250,000 miles & Up to 10 more years. Will your gasser have that?
N0x in ONLY diesel is a witch hunt. Car diesel N0x as shown in AQMD is not even measurable, let alone on the radar. What is a major N0x emitter & clearly ON the radar are GASSER cars, SUV's, to light trucks. @ 95% to 98% gassers.
When I started with the 2003 Jetta TDI , LSD was very common ( @ 140 ppm CA/500 ppm, 49 states.) With current standard @15 ppm delivered nominally from 4ppm (B5) to 5 ppm to 10ppm, B5 to ULSD. D2 is far cleaner than RUG/PUG standard 30 ppm, which by law can be up to 90 ppm (with off line fee payment)
http://www.off-road.com/diesel/review/nissan-titan-xd-wait-almost-over-54317.html
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You have at least two other vehicles that you can use, so it's not like you're exposing yourself to excessive risk, in the case you were close to 2/32 in tread remaining.
This might be TMI, off topic, applies to diesel/gas or gas hybrid, etc. Tire wear/ longevity is weird !
My bias is to get vehicles that are easiest on tires: given ones conditions and how one drives in them.
The other bias is for tires that allow for longer wear with good to great performance; as opposed to to shorten wear with absolutely great performance.
Longer story short : H rated tires seem to be in the sweet spot for many applications.
But that's only part of the weirdness of that full sized PU truck segment. ANY gasser engine option offered in the class gets very poor fuel mileage. They also have a lot less torque ! The torque is/has been less useable.
To state the obvious, why not get a whole lot more and USEABLE (emphasis on useable) torque, with even better MPG and a better transmission ?
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/vw-customers-want-compensation-survey-121000480.html
No compensation unless the MPG falls below THE OFFICIAL STICKER value or the torque is significantly reduced.
I want to buy a TDI , if as stated the resale value has dropped by 50% ., which I cannot find anywhere
No, it is false that "EVERYONE" wants higher mph/torque! However, (like model) I would submit TDI BUYERS most likely may.
Why should the lawyers and taxing agency's get the penalty monies, when the OWNERS are being defrauded? Priorities are FUBAR!
I haven't found that 50% off on an E250 either
As a point of comparison, In the U S, everybody (212.1 M drivers) still drives, despite a fantastic NHTSA FARS 2013 record of only 30, 000 people dying in traffic fatalities, etc. (i.e., est 2,988 B miles) So for example, the stat 30,000 crash fatalities is a negative declaration.
Another way to ask: how many folk (316.1 M ) boycott the fruits or consequences of driving? (Well, the dead obviously, not counted in the pop)
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Sounds like it was a factor to a lot of folks - a sampling:
"The company lied to me and to millions of other buyers who wanted solid performance without ruining the environment." (MarketWatch)
"Robin Cole, a medical physicist from Surrey, says low emissions were a key factor behind his decision to buy a diesel VW Golf BlueMotion." (BBC)
"Ottawa energy-efficiency consultant Andrew Cole feels "absolute disappointment" over the Volkswagen emission-rigging scandal after buying a "very expensive" model to make a good environmental statement this spring." (CBC)
“I remember that commercial where they put a coffee filter over the tailpipe to show how clean the exhaust was,” said Pete Ramundo, 45, of Newtown, Conn., who purchased a Jetta TDI in 2010. “We were looking for a high-mileage solution, and this seemed like a godsend." (Boston Globe)
"Corona's family is very environmentally conscious. That's why the Golf attracted him and why he hasn't told his idealistic 7-year-old daughter the bad news. "She probably won't like it," he said." (Daily Herald, Chicago)
No one was even aware that TDI were "cleaner " then gassers.
Hypocracy by hindsight