Real-World Trade-In Values

Sandman6472

Will do that in a few weeks methinks. Just have to see how good the repair was done first.

The Sandman

blacklx1

Hi qbrozen,

I'm looking for a trade-in value for a 2013 GMC Yukon XL SLT. 60K miles, 2WD, rear ent, heated/cooled seats, in the Houston area.

qbrozen

blacklx1 said:

Hi qbrozen, I'm looking for a trade-in value for a 2013 GMC Yukon XL SLT. 60K miles, 2WD, rear ent, heated/cooled seats, in the Houston area.

Assuming it is a common and nonoffensive color, and assuming it is the 1500 model, I'm going to guess $17k-$17.5k. You could get more depending on how observant the UCM is. Manheim calculator states more but the actual recent sales in TX don't agree. 

blacklx1

qbrozen said:

blacklx1 said:

Hi qbrozen,

I'm looking for a trade-in value for a 2013 GMC Yukon XL SLT. 60K miles, 2WD, rear ent, heated/cooled seats, in the Houston area.

Assuming it is a common and nonoffensive color, and assuming it is the 1500 model, I'm going to guess $17k-$17.5k. You could get more depending on how observant the UCM is. Manheim calculator states more but the actual recent sales in TX don't agree. 

Many thanks!

steine13

Learned Friends:
Something very pedestrian, but a Japanese colleague here at the Lab is leaving and has this to sell:

2005 Toyota Corolla LE
black, 4spd auto, 122k
let's assume serviceable tires and clean condition, with rust as a worry but no obvious spots or holes.

I haven't actually seen the car yet, but I know the type, so to speak.

What's the range for LEs in 'avg' condition at auctions in the rust belt?
Thanks in advance as always,
-mathias

Mr_Shiftright

Practically nothing at auction I'd guess. This is at best a $3K--$4K car retail.

qbrozen

eh, depending on the details, anywhere from $2k-$3k, believe it or not. The nice ones are breaking $3k in the northeast. That means those cars will hit retail lots for damned near $7k. Figure $5k-$5500 retail is fair. $4k-$4500 PP.

Mr_Shiftright

Really? For an "average" car with those miles and in the rust belt? I'm seeing clean ones in California at $4K private party all over the place. Well, live and learn I guess.

cosanostra

Any idea what the trade-in for a blue 2016 Honda Fit EX would be? Low miles - 17800, good condition, couple of small dings from the grocery store lots. Midwest (Nebraska to be exact).
Thanks!

steine13

Thanks for the quick response, q!
I'm more of shifty's mindset -- and he don't even know from rust! -- but it's one of those cars where you know it's gonna last, and the fact that it's cheap is part of the appeal. Can you buy it for $4 and run it for $0.10 per mile? The answer is, yeah, probably.
I woulda guessed high $2s PP but the auction doesn't lie.

Mr_Shiftright

Anything with "Toyota" written on it is going to defy the odds I suppose.

Here's one I saw:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/d/2005-toyota-corolla/6550224565.html

Here's another but higher miles:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/toyota-corolla-2005-ce-manual/6548913811.html

iluvmysephia1

That 2005 Toyota Corolla has no appeal to me whatsoever. Fast forward to the 2019 MY and make it a Corolla hatchback, I'm all over it like Gary Payton stripping Michael Jordan of the ball at half court, bounding to the hoop ahead of all defenders and gently kissing the ball off the glass, into the hoop for another two points for your hometown Seattle Supersonics.

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Anything with "Toyota" written on it is going to defy the odds I suppose.

Here's one I saw:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/d/2005-toyota-corolla/6550224565.html

Here's another but higher miles:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/toyota-corolla-2005-ce-manual/6548913811.html

Yes to Toyota defying logic.

However, both of those are CE models. Big difference. One CE at the block like that only hit $2100. Another with a manual trans ... $500.

In any event, if we went dead center of my earlier auction estimate on the LE in question, that's $2500. $4k PP certainly isn't unreasonable. Could they list it for $4995 and sell it within a week? I think they probably could.

qbrozen

cosanostra said:

Any idea what the trade-in for a blue 2016 Honda Fit EX would be? Low miles - 17800, good condition, couple of small dings from the grocery store lots. Midwest (Nebraska to be exact).
Thanks!

stick or auto?

cosanostra

qbrozen said:

cosanostra said:

Any idea what the trade-in for a blue 2016 Honda Fit EX would be? Low miles - 17800, good condition, couple of small dings from the grocery store lots. Midwest (Nebraska to be exact).
Thanks!

stick or auto?

Auto

kyfdx

Member needs advice on used Subaru Outbacks...

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/50822/subaru/outback/advice-on-buying-a-used-subaru-outback-for-20-000-25-000-highest-lower-price-ok-mileage#latest

qbrozen

cosanostra said:

Any idea what the trade-in for a blue 2016 Honda Fit EX would be? Low miles - 17800, good condition, couple of small dings from the grocery store lots. Midwest (Nebraska to be exact). Thanks!

stick or auto?

Auto

About $12k-$12.5k

Sandman6472

Q, got the Golf back and besides two trim items they just forgot but will order this week, think I'd give it a 98% to be honest. They detailed it this morning as I had to wait about 30 minutes but that was o k with me as we had dropped the rental off at Hertz at 9 am, me being taken first. But Golf looks like new, all clean and and drives o k, I hear road noise but just not sure it wasn't there pre-accident.
Now the big question, how much is it worth according to the Carfax? Not sure if you have access to checking someone's Carfax report or not. If so, let me know and I'll send off the vin number.

2015 VW Golf SE
39,750 miles
Silk blue over beige perforated leather
Bridgestone run flat tires with 10K on them
South Florida
A side impact accident on 3/28/18, repaired by insurance pretty well
Paid for in good condition. Can't say excellent due to the recent accident.

Just curious what you say before I take a swing over at Carmax. Right now, leaning towards keeping it but plan to do a diminished value claim due to the recent accident.

The Sandman

Mr_Shiftright

Q--carfax is clean so far on this car.

Sandman6472

Cool, so thinking Q's $14,500 call will still be a bit high since any place is going to ask about any accident history and I'll have to be honest, and say yes. No sense lying about it because it will come out, eventually. And no way do I want to open up that can of worms. Anyways, as long as I keep it, really doesn't matter if CarFax shows it or not. Right now, I just want to get paid for the diminished value it'll eventually have and that's a fact...it will have it one day, sooner than later. Shame, as it's really a nice vehicle and when shined up like it is now, looks awesome. Even the collision guy I dealt with today said why would I want to trade it in now, it looks so good!!

The Sandman

corvette

That's a tough one. You may not want to dump it until you get reimbursed for the DV due to the wreck. But you also will get more for it if you dump it before the wreck shows on the Carfax.

qbrozen

Any UCM earning their keep will see it has been repaired.
how much did they have to paint? 

corvette

qbrozen said:

Any UCM earning their keep will see it has been repaired.

I agree, but if it's been repaired with a clean CF, I don't think it's as bad as repaired with "moderate/severe damage reported" on CF, if Florida grades the level of damage.

andres3

I agree, but if it's been repaired with a clean CF, I don't think it's as bad as repaired with "moderate/severe damage reported" on CF, if Florida grades the level of damage.

I'd partially agree. I think if we all agree DV on a moderate to severe repair is 20% of value, then we can probably agree that a clean carfax probably only changes that maybe 2.5 to 5% at best. So you take a 17.5% loss instead.

jpp75

A quick update on a car I posted a while back. My friend had a 2008 Accord EX-L with Nav and around 123k on the clock. @qbrozen suggested a private sale and listing it at $6,995 which is what I did. He ended up selling it in 5 days for $6,300 which I thought was more than fair. The buyer was a younger guy who had only owned Accords and had totaled his last one and this was just what he was looking for. So a win all around, thanks q for the info!

jpp75

@qbrozen Any data on what these go for? I've always liked them and in considering a "fun" second car these seem to fit the bill. I've looked around and this one definitely seems overpriced, especially considering 2 accidents on the CarFax. If i went this route I'd probably "want" a 2011 or later for the refreshed styling and I'd prefer an R-Design but given these never sold that great options are a bit limited and those end up being a little higher than what I'd want to spend on a fun car.

2008 Volvo C30 T5, 6 speed manual, 91k miles, black over black. Located in CO and 2 previous owners and 2 accidents on the CarFax.

https://www.victorymotorsofcolorado.com/inventory/2008-volvo-c30-t5-version-2.0/106263

qbrozen

Not much data, but enough to tell me that certainly is way overpriced. $6k would be more than enough, IMHO.

jpp75

qbrozen said:

Not much data, but enough to tell me that certainly is way overpriced. $6k would be more than enough, IMHO.

Thanks Q, that's what I was thinking as well based on a nationwide search.

Sandman6472

Not sure what to do but this morning, it threw out some interesting messages and finally a red triangle. Am waiting for it to do some flip flops and back flips to know it's truly possessed!! Seriously though, think it's time to get serious finding a replacement and as much as I want luxury, thinking cheap to keep is probably the best way to go. I don't want or need drama from my daily driver as just don't have the time for it. I need my vehicle ready to go at any moment with no issues, cheap to keep has usually been the best way to go. Shame the next generation Corolla is about 15 months away as the spy pics I've seen make it look like a mini-Camry, something I could use right now. Toyota's have never let us down all the years we've owned them and could be happy in one again. Exciting as watching paint dry but that's exactly what I need and want right now, no more drama from the garage!!!

The Sandman

sbuhler

I am looking for a realistic wholesale value for the following:
2016 Ford F-150 4WD, 5.5 foot bed, Lariat Series, Most Options, Exterior Brown, Interior Black
5,000 miles
Louisiana

Thanks

sbuhler

Also requesting wholesale value for the following:
2007 Toyota Tundra 2WD, 6.5 foot bed, TSS Series, Cloth Interior, Exterior Brown, Interior Tan
Average Shape
80,000 miles
Louisiana

qbrozen

Is that a supercrew? Which engine?

sbuhler

Ford super crew 3.5 ecoboost
tundra cab not crew 5.7

thanks

qbrozen

$40k-$40.5k on the Ford

not sure what you mean on the Tundra, but $9k for standard cab and $11.5k for double cab (not crew so i assume double means extended).

sbuhler

Thanks for info.  Always appreciated.

will201

Any insight on the value for the vehicle shown below? Right now the Michigan dealership is trying to sell it for $25,000
2015 Green Ford Expedition EL XLT
73,000 Miles
Tan Interior 
Standard features:
Fuel Consumption: City: 14 mpgFuel Consumption: Highway: 20 mpgRemote, digital keypad power door locksPower windowsCruise controls on steering wheelCruise controlTrailer hitch4-wheel ABS BrakesFront Ventilated disc brakes1st, 2nd and 3rd row head airbagsPassenger AirbagSide airbagRear air conditioning with separate controls60-40 Third Row SeatManual Folding Third Row SeatBluetooth wireless phone connectivityDigital Audio InputIn-Dash single CD playerSYNCMP3 playerSiriusXM AM/FM/Satellite RadioRadio Data SystemMulti-source Rear Audio SystemSiriusXM Satellite Radio(TM)Speed Sensitive Audio Volume ControlTotal Number of Speakers: 6Twin TurboBraking AssistPower Adjustable PedalsABS and Driveline Traction ControlStability control with anti-roll controlPrivacy glass: DeepMachined aluminum rims w/ painted accentsWheel Diameter: 18Wheel Width: 8.5Front fog/driving lightsLeather steering wheel trimUrethane shift knob trimRoof rackVideo Monitor Location: FrontTrip computerExternal temperature displayTachometerManufacturer's 0-60mph acceleration time (seconds): 7.0 sPower remote driver mirror adjustmentHeated driver mirrorHeated passenger mirrorElectrochromatic rearview mirrorPower remote passenger mirror adjustmentDual illuminated vanity mirrorsCompassRear heat ducts with separate controlsAudio controls on steering wheelRunning boardsFront and rear reading lightsAnti-theft alarm systemCloth seat upholsteryBucket front seatsSplit rear benchFold forward seatback rear seatsTilt and telescopic steering wheelSpeed-proportional electric power steeringSuspension class: RegularAutomatic front air conditioningTire Pressure Monitoring SystemRemote activated exterior entry lightsCargo area lightMax cargo capacity: 131 cu.ft.Vehicle Emissions: ULEV IIFuel Type: Regular unleadedFuel Capacity: 34.0 gal.Instrumentation: Low fuel levelClock: In-radio displayHeadlights off auto delayDusk sensing headlights

Included options:
ABS Brakes (4-Wheel)Adjustable Pedals PowerAir Conditioning - Air FiltrationAir Conditioning - FrontAir Conditioning - Front - Single ZoneAir Conditioning - Rear - Single ZoneAir Conditioning - Rear - With Independent ControlsAirbags - Front - DualAirbags - Front - SideAirbags - Front - Side CurtainAirbags - Passenger - Occupant Sensing DeactivationAirbags - Rear - Side CurtainAirbags - Side-curtain Rollover SensorAirbags - Third Row - Side CurtainAssist Handle FrontAudio Auxiliary Input: IPod/IPhone IntegrationBody Side Moldings Body-ColorCargo Area 12V Power OutletCenter Console Front Console With Armrest And StorageChild Safety LocksChild Seat Anchors LATCH SystemDoors Liftgate Window: Manual Flip-UpDoors Rear Door Type: LiftgateDriver Seat Adjustable Lumbar Support: ManualDriver Seat Manual Adjustments: ReclineDriver Seat Power Adjustments: 6Drivetrain Center Differential: MechanicalDrivetrain Locking Differential: CenterDrivetrain Transfer Case: Electronic Hi-Lo Gear SelectionElectronic Brakeforce DistributionElectronic Messaging Assistance With Read FunctionFront 12V Power Outlet(s)Fuel Economy Display RangeImpact Sensor Post-Collision Safety SystemKeyless Entry KeypadMulti-Function DisplayMulti-function Remote Keyless EntryMulti-function Remote Keyless Entry With Panic AlarmMulti-function Remote Trunk ReleaseOverhead ConsoleParking Sensors RearPhone Wireless Data Link BluetoothPower BrakesPower Steering Speed-ProportionalReading Lights FrontRear Seats Flat FoldingRear Seats RecliningRear View Monitor In DashRoll Stability ControlRunning Boards BlackSYNC - Satellite CommunicationsSecurity Anti-Theft Alarm SystemStability ControlSteering Wheel Mounted Controls Cruise ControlsSteering Wheel Mounted Controls Voice Recognition ControlsStorage Cargo Tie-Down Anchors And HooksTrip OdometerUniversal Garage Door OpenerVerify Options Before PurchaseWarnings And Reminders Low Fuel Level

• 14 mpgEPA-Est City MPG620 mpgEPA-Est Highway MPG6
• 3.5L V6 24V GDI DOHC Twin Turbo6-SPEED AUTOMATIC4WD
• Exterior Color Green Interior Color TAN

qbrozen

Miles are obviously sky high, and its "no-sale green." Asking price isn't offensive, but I personally would cap myself at $24k.

corvette

That’s not a bad looking green color, almost looks black. That infotainment / backup cam screen is tiny for a 2015 anything, much less a premium SUV. 

xwesx

Almost looks like the unit that was in my Fiesta. Difference being that the tiny screen actually felt appropriate in the tiny Fiesta.

Sandman6472

Q, did the Manheim in West Palm Beach this morning. It was "controlled chaos" but for us car guys, was pretty cool after I got the hang of it. Lots of iron going through the 5 lines, I got stuck in the "crappy" vehicle lane but hey, my first day. Across the street, Barrett Jackson was getting ready to start this afternoon. lots of activity going on from what little I could see.
But the auction was interesting with folks walking all over the place, sticking their hands in to feel how cold the a/c was. Opening and closing doors, trunks and hoods while I had to slow down or stop depending on who was doing what. Definitely "controlled chaos" but in a good way. All kinds of vehicles from brand newish to some from the late 50's.
All in all, a fun day after I finally got some training after being thrown in the deep end right off the bat. Didn't drown, luckily, and finally, about an hour later, they threw me a life jacket I should've had from the start. Almost went home after an hour but said no way, stayed, and glad I did. Will be going back next Thursday!
They have other auctions down in Lauderdale on Wednesdays and Fridays but the hours are super long and I've got a commitment with Hertz to fulfill, so for the time being, will just do Thursdays and some Tuesdays if they have any which I heard they just might. I think a lot of y'all would definitely enjoy doing this as it it pretty cool!!

The Sandman

qbrozen

I read the extended description in the other thread. Good for you for sticking it out. I saw an ad for working the auction in Jersey and considered applying because I think it would be fun, but the money just wouldn't work for me right now.

will201

Any insight on the value for the vehicle shown below. A dealership in michigan is selling it for $25,000

• Year: 2014
• Make: Ford
• Model: Expedition EL
• Bodystyle: Sport Utility
• Mileage: 71,346 miles
• Engine: 5.4L 8 Cylinder
• Transmission: Automatic
• Drive Line: 4WD
• Exterior Color: Black
• VIN: 1FMJK1J5XEE533901
• Model Code: K1J
• Stock #: 3885PA

Convenience Features

• 1-touch down
• Driver vanity mirror
• Tilt steering wheel
• Auto-dimming rearview mirror
• Air conditioning
• Garage door transmitter
• Front beverage holders
• Speed control
• Illuminated entry
• Rear door bins
• Rear beverage holders
• Power windows
• Adjustable pedals
• Passenger door bin
• Remote keyless entry
• Overhead console
• Passenger vanity mirror
• Driver door bin
• Rear air conditioning
• 1-touch up

Off-Road Capability

• Ground clearance (min): 221mm (8.7")
• Approach angle: 24 deg
• Departure angle: 21 deg
• Ramp breakover angle: 19 deg

Entertainment Features

• Rear audio controls
• Radio data system
• Wireless phone connectivity: Bluetooth
• MP3 decoder
• Steering wheel mounted audio controls
• CD player
• Turn-by-turn navigation directions: SYNC Services

Seats and Trim

• Leather steering wheel
• Front seats: bucket
• Front center armrest
• Power driver seat
• Manual driver lumbar support
• 3rd row seats: split-bench
• Split folding rear seat

Warranty

• Basic warranty: 36 months/36,000miles
• Roadside assistance coverage: 60 months/60,000miles
• Powertrain warranty: 60 months/60,000miles
• Corrosion perforation warranty: 60 months/ unlimited distance

Specs and Dimensions

• 3rd row headroom: 965mm (38.0")
• Compression ratio: 9.80 to 1
• Engine horsepower: 310hp @ 5,100RPM
• Front headroom: 1,003mm (39.5")
• Rear legroom: 993mm (39.1")
• Exterior height: 1,989mm (78.3")
• 3rd row hiproom: 1,316mm (51.8")
• Exterior body width: 2,002mm (78.8")
• Front legroom: 1,044mm (41.1")
• Interior maximum cargo volume: 3,704 L (131 cu.ft.)
• Exterior length: 5,621mm (221.3")
• Engine torque: 365 lb.-ft. @ 3,600RPM
• GVWR: 3,502kg (7,720lbs)
• Front hiproom: 1,529mm (60.2")
• 3rd row legroom: 958mm (37.7")
• Turning radius: 6.7m (22.0')
• Passenger volume: 4,766L (168.3 cu.ft.)
• Curb weight: 2,757kg (6,078lbs)
• Front shoulder room: 1,605mm (63.2")
• Wheelbase: 3,327mm (131.0")
• Engine bore x stroke: 90.2mm x 105.8mm (3.55" x 4.17")
• Rear hiproom: 1,521mm (59.9")
• Rear headroom: 1,008mm (39.7")
• 3rd row shoulder room: 1,704mm (67.1")
• Engine displacement: 5.4 L
• Interior cargo volume: 1,206 L (43 cu.ft.)
• Rear shoulder room: 1,618mm (63.7")

Body Exterior

• Tailpipe finisher: chrome
• Trailer hitch receiver
• Power door mirrors
• Bumpers: body-color
• Roof rack
• Heated door mirrors

Powertrain

• Fuel economy city: 13mpg
• Mode select transmission
• Horsepower: 310hp @ 5,100RPM
• Fuel economy highway: 18mpg
• Transmission: 6 speed automatic
• Variable valve control
• Engine liters: 5.4
• Sequential multi-point fuel injection
• Fuel tank capacity: 34.0gal.
• Fuel economy combined: 15mpg
• Cylinder configuration: V-8
• Engine location: front
• Recommended fuel: Regular Unleaded
• Torque: 365 lb.-ft. @ 3,600RPM
• Drive type: four-wheel
• Number of valves: 24

Safety and Security

• Traction control
• Brake assist
• Electronic stability
• Occupant sensing airbag
• Dual front impact airbags
• ABS brakes
• Security system
• Perimeter/approach lights
• Dual front side impact airbags
• 4 wheel disc brakes
• Panic alarm
• Overhead airbag
• Ignition disable

Suspension/Handling

• Speed-sensing steering
• Four wheel independent suspension
• Tires: all-terrain
• Rear anti-roll bar
• Front anti-roll bar
• Power steering
• Alloy wheels

Lighting, Visibility and Instrumentation

• Tachometer
• Fully automatic headlights
• Trip computer
• Rear window wiper
• Delay-off headlights
• Display: analog
• Variably intermittent wipers
• Parking sensors: rear
• Rear window defroster
• Low tire pressure warning
• Speed sensitive wipers
• Outside temperature display
• Front reading lights
• Front fog lights
• Compass
• Voltmeter
• Rear reading lights

qbrozen

cheap for a King Ranch. Fair enough for an XLT.

BUT, you may want to check the carfax. Autocheck has zero data on that VIN.

tjc78

Hey Q if you have a minute.  For a friend right here in NJ

2014 Passat SEL V6
loaded with Nav 
Silver over black leather 
46,000 miles, maintained and great condition 

Dealer offered 10, seemed low to me 

Thanks 

qbrozen

A little low. $750 up to $1k more should be possible.

Was this just one dealer? Curious if he'd have better luck at Carsense. $10k is either a lowball or a less experienced UCM. If I looked at the results without details, I can see where $10k comes from; HOWEVER, that is because a couple of black cars in hot climates are skewing the results. Silver in the northeast is $1k more than those.

stickguy

I’d give him 10 sight unseen.

kyfdx

I'd rather have the turbo

tjc78

kyfdx said:

I'd rather have the turbo

Car moves out nice...

Thanks Q.  I told him to shop it at Carmax.  We have one ten minutes from the office. 

cosanostra

A 2012 Kia Soul - base model, silver, 77700, auto, bluetooth, satellite radio. Exterior and interior are in ok condition. No rips or tears in cloth upholstery, but crumbs and some coffee spills. Dents & dings from parking lots, scratches & a couple of chips on the bumper. Nebraska.

qbrozen

cosanostra said:

A 2012 Kia Soul - base model, silver, 77700, auto, bluetooth, satellite radio. Exterior and interior are in ok condition. No rips or tears in cloth upholstery, but crumbs and some coffee spills. Dents & dings from parking lots, scratches & a couple of chips on the bumper. Nebraska.

Not a pretty picture. $4k-$4500.