Real-World Trade-In Values

qbrozen

2011 Honda Odyssey EXL 80,000 miles-- pretty good condition minus some scratches- paid off

Assuming it is an inoffensive color, about $11k.


2016 Subaru Outback [2.5] Limited with Eyesight package/Adaptive Cruise, NAV 24,000 miles

About $22.5k-$23k.

alise007

qbrozen said:

Sooo...one of the needs is a smaller AWD commuter vehicle. Sounds like an Outback. So why are you looking to get out of that lease early?

We aren’t necessarily getting out early—it’s up in a few months. Our Subaru dealership has been hounding us since February for a trade in/up to a new Outback and they are desperate for used Outbacks  but we can wait til August and simply turn it in. According to them bc we are low on miles we have some equity.   

No no matter what we need to make a decision by August.  

The outback is a bit long/wide so a slightly smaller vehicle would save some garage space and be easier for the kid to drive down the road 

Mr_Shiftright

Hmmm....that argument against the Outback doesn't sound very sturdy in the "real world". A few inches in a garage seems a minor gain (to me), and if the kid is a good driver, the size difference won't matter--and if he/she is a bad driver, the size difference won't matter either.

How 'bout outfitting the Subaru with one of those roof pods?

stickguy

the outback is a lease so going back anyway, unless they want to buy it out. Not the same as selling a paid off van.

Mr_Shiftright

Well if the car is doing 95% of what they want it to do, and if the buyout is good.....

kyfdx

Nothing kills a good lease deal quicker than buying it out, at lease end.

It's not your car.. you don't own it... don't feel any obligation towards it. It has to be a better deal than every other comparable car on the market to make that worthwhile.

xwesx

Ascent is at many dealerships already, in terms of being able to look at them in person. They go on sale in July, though that is rather perfect timing in terms of your Outback's lease end. You should consider looking at one if you have been happy with your Outback.

For your Honda, if you want to maximize your return, consider private sale on that. I think Q said about $11K on trade, so you could probably hit another couple grand on a private sale without too much difficulty. Picking up a smaller AWD vehicle, particularly lightly used, after that sale would probably not cost you a whole lot out of pocket. Well, unless it is a Crosstrek... you might as well get that new for all the "savings" you will net.

xwesx

kyfdx said:

Nothing kills a good lease deal quicker than buying it out, at lease end.

It's not your car.. you don't own it... don't feel any obligation towards it. It has to be a better deal than every other comparable car on the market to make that worthwhile.

Well, if any car is able to make that a reality, it is an Outback. If the residual on that car is $21.5K, they have a chance to come out ahead: Even on trade after a buyout!

Mr_Shiftright

Equity on a lease is rare, but it does happen.

alise007

qbrozen said:

2011 Honda Odyssey EXL 80,000 miles-- pretty good condition minus some scratches- paid off

Assuming it is an inoffensive color, about $11k.


2016 Subaru Outback [2.5] Limited with Eyesight package/Adaptive Cruise, NAV 24,000 miles

About $22.5k-$23k.

Odyssey is a charcoal shade so should be a safe. I’ll check local sale options/climate. This is ground zero for US car company employees and suppliers so the foreign car market isn’t as lucrative here.

We test drove an Atlas yesterday and checked out the Rogues next door. The VW dealership which is the same “brand” as the Subaru dealership a few doors down from where we leased said we could probably make a few grand be they are short on used Subs. The Atlas was a great drive I just don’t like the 2 3 2 seating configuration! I prefer the 3 seats in the 3rd row these tween girls are loud and obnoxious!

xwesx

alise007 said:

The Atlas was a great drive I just don’t like the 2 3 2 seating configuration! I prefer the 3 seats in the 3rd row these tween girls are loud and obnoxious!

Truer words were never spoken!

nyccarguy

xwesx said:

alise007 said:

The Atlas was a great drive I just don’t like the 2 3 2 seating configuration! I prefer the 3 seats in the 3rd row these tween girls are loud and obnoxious!

Truer words were never spoken!

The width of the vehicle just isn't there in the 3rd row. Our Pilot is configured 2-3-3. You need 3 very skinny children to sit 3 across in the 3rd row.

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

xwesx said:

alise007 said:

The Atlas was a great drive I just don’t like the 2 3 2 seating configuration! I prefer the 3 seats in the 3rd row these tween girls are loud and obnoxious!

Truer words were never spoken!

The width of the vehicle just isn't there in the 3rd row. Our Pilot is configured 2-3-3. You need 3 very skinny children to sit 3 across in the 3rd row.

I completely agree. Most of the three-row machines are similar. I would rather that manufacturers be honest about their "seats" than simply set the layout to suggest you can fit more than is practical. One thing I absolutely love about the Ford Flex is that it says it can seat seven and will do so with a high degree of comfort (even for full-size adults) in any seating position within the car.

tifighter

nyccarguy said:

xwesx said:

alise007 said:

The Atlas was a great drive I just don’t like the 2 3 2 seating configuration! I prefer the 3 seats in the 3rd row these tween girls are loud and obnoxious!

Truer words were never spoken!

The width of the vehicle just isn't there in the 3rd row. Our Pilot is configured 2-3-3. You need 3 very skinny children to sit 3 across in the 3rd row.

Yeah, sounds like a job for the Sienna AWD. But most people hate to hear that. Which is a shame.

Mr_Shiftright

Q--could you ballpark some private party retail numbers on these two?

2005 Cadillac SRX--all options, 43,000 orig miles, California, gold/tan

2005 Mercedes 320 CLK, all options, 65,000 orig miles, California, blue /tan

Thanks in advance! Shifty

28firefighter

Didn’t think a gold caddy was your style, @Mr_Shiftright

Mr_Shiftright

Egad, no...you are not witnessing Shifty's Bling Era. I want to compare my numbers to Q's because of the unusually low mileage of these vehicles. Ultra low miles sometimes stumps me.

tj11119

Q another quick request for trade in / PP value for a:
2009 Bmw 128i convertible 
60k miles
automatic
blue exterior with beige leather interior 
fully loaded (premium, sport and xenon package)
California
great paint/body, no accident, good tires, Carfax checks out ok.

Thanks !

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--could you ballpark some private party retail numbers on these two? 2005 Cadillac SRX--all options, 43,000 orig miles, California, gold/tan 2005 Mercedes 320 CLK, all options, 65,000 orig miles, California, blue /tan Thanks in advance! Shifty

Need to know how many cylinders and driven wheels on the Caddy.

Is that CLK a vert? If so, I have zero sales on that at any mileage. If a coupe, I would shoot high at 6995 but 6k should take it home if clean and no paintwork or needs.

edit: ok, you did say all options on the caddy. A V8 AWD it must be.
Manheim is not hitting the miles right on this, so I have to go with my own estimation. Dealers would list a 100-k mile unit at $7k and take 5 when pressed. So let's also push on this one and say $7500 ask and $6k-6500 take.

qbrozen

tijuana19 said:

Q another quick request for trade in / PP value for a:
2009 Bmw 128i convertible 
60k miles
automatic
blue exterior with beige leather interior 
fully loaded (premium, sport and xenon package)
California
great paint/body, no accident, good tires, Carfax checks out ok.

Thanks !

About $7500-$8k trade. So figure about $10.5k PP, give or take a nickel. If yours, list at somewhere south of $12k.

stickguy

I would be seriously tempted at $10k.

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Q--could you ballpark some private party retail numbers on these two?

2005 Cadillac SRX--all options, 43,000 orig miles, California, gold/tan

2005 Mercedes 320 CLK, all options, 65,000 orig miles, California, blue /tan

Thanks in advance! Shifty

Need to know how many cylinders and driven wheels on the Caddy.

Is that CLK a vert? If so, I have zero sales on that at any mileage. If a coupe, I would shoot high at 6995 but 6k should take it home if clean and no paintwork or needs.

edit: ok, you did say all options on the caddy. A V8 AWD it must be.
Manheim is not hitting the miles right on this, so I have to go with my own estimation. Dealers would list a 100-k mile unit at $7k and take 5 when pressed. So let's also push on this one and say $7500 ask and $6k-6500 take.

Thanks a lot, Q!---yes the Benz 320 CLK is a 'vert, so I guess no info on that one.

OK! One more if you don't mind--you may have nothing on this car but if you do let me know.

2005 Mercedes E55 AMG w/ Lorinser package.(if that even matters). Again, I'm shooting for private party retail guesstimates.

qbrozen

Lorinser won't show up for me, but miles and condition would be good to know. ;b

28firefighter

Paging @fintail for input on the E55.

qbrozen

I did a little more digging. Had a couple of low-mileage 2004 CLK320s cross the block. One with 31k for $9900 in PA and another with 50k for $8100 in NM. So it seems this one may be worth more than I would have thought. Mileage is in the middle, but a year newer. We could take a stab at $9500'ish at auction. $11k is probably a decent PP purchase price. So ask $12k, maybe.

fintail

He got me on the "obscure car" thread

28firefighter said:

Paging @fintail for input on the E55.

28firefighter

RWTIV, CCBA, and Cars and Conversations are enough threads for me to keep up with

tj11119

qbrozen said:

tijuana19 said:

Q another quick request for trade in / PP value for a:
2009 Bmw 128i convertible 
60k miles
automatic
blue exterior with beige leather interior 
fully loaded (premium, sport and xenon package)
California
great paint/body, no accident, good tires, Carfax checks out ok.

Thanks !

About $7500-$8k trade. So figure about $10.5k PP, give or take a nickel. If yours, list at somewhere south of $12k.

Thanks Q!
Just curious, does the convertible bring a premium over the same 128i coupe?

Michaell

28firefighter said:

RWTIV, CCBA, and Cars and Conversations are enough threads for me to keep up with

Lightweight. :laughing:

28firefighter

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:

RWTIV, CCBA, and Cars and Conversations are enough threads for me to keep up with

Lightweight. :laughing:

HA. Not all of us can be expert Mods AND top-notch participants!

qbrozen

tijuana19 said:

tijuana19 said:

Q another quick request for trade in / PP value for a:
2009 Bmw 128i convertible 
60k miles
automatic
blue exterior with beige leather interior 
fully loaded (premium, sport and xenon package)
California
great paint/body, no accident, good tires, Carfax checks out ok.

Thanks !

About $7500-$8k trade. So figure about $10.5k PP, give or take a nickel. If yours, list at somewhere south of $12k.

Thanks Q! Just curious, does the convertible bring a premium over the same 128i coupe?

Of course. About $1k-$1500 difference.

surferdudehb

Hi,
I'm looking to purchase the following used Honda from a GMC dealership.
2016 Honda Accord EX-L
with 21,922 miles, 2.4L engine, CVT automatic, white exterior/black interior, moon roof.
Clean Carfax but the car is currently getting its radio/screen replaced (not sure why).
GMC dealer online price is $21,508. Location is Humble, TX 77338

Thank you

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

I did a little more digging. Had a couple of low-mileage 2004 CLK320s cross the block. One with 31k for $9900 in PA and another with 50k for $8100 in NM. So it seems this one may be worth more than I would have thought. Mileage is in the middle, but a year newer. We could take a stab at $9500'ish at auction. $11k is probably a decent PP purchase price. So ask $12k, maybe.

Is this for the convertible?

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

qbrozen said:

I did a little more digging. Had a couple of low-mileage 2004 CLK320s cross the block. One with 31k for $9900 in PA and another with 50k for $8100 in NM. So it seems this one may be worth more than I would have thought. Mileage is in the middle, but a year newer. We could take a stab at $9500'ish at auction. $11k is probably a decent PP purchase price. So ask $12k, maybe.

Is this for the convertible?

yes

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

Lorinser won't show up for me, but miles and condition would be good to know. ;b

On the 2005 Mercedes E55 AMG Lorinser---miles are 75,000, condition is excellent.

qbrozen

surferdudehb said:

Hi,
I'm looking to purchase the following used Honda from a GMC dealership.
2016 Honda Accord EX-L
with 21,922 miles, 2.4L engine, CVT automatic, white exterior/black interior, moon roof.
Clean Carfax but the car is currently getting its radio/screen replaced (not sure why).
GMC dealer online price is $21,508. Location is Humble, TX 77338

Thank you

Googled and found the car so I could make sure its a 4-door. :b

These are right around $20k at auction, so their price is very good.

qbrozen

Mr_Shiftright said:

qbrozen said:

Lorinser won't show up for me, but miles and condition would be good to know. ;b

On the 2005 Mercedes E55 AMG Lorinser---miles are 75,000, condition is excellent.

Excellent condition with 120k miles (I have 3 such examples) are $9k. I'd have a hard time justifying more than $50/1k for the under mileage. That would bring us to $11,250. Dealer is going to ask at least $15k, if not more due to "rarity." I'd say $13,995 asking and $13k taking on PP.

I know fin said far more than that, but my auction numbers are real sales. you know the drill.

Mr_Shiftright

Thanks Q---as you are all tired of me saying: "Asking prices are your First Amendment Rights".

Whenever I see a $10K spread between auction prices and asking prices, I suspect a fair amount of dealer-supported inflation going on here.

surferdudehb

qbrozen said:

Hi, I'm looking to purchase the following used Honda from a GMC dealership. 2016 Honda Accord EX-L with 21,922 miles, 2.4L engine, CVT automatic, white exterior/black interior, moon roof. Clean Carfax but the car is currently getting its radio/screen replaced (not sure why). GMC dealer online price is $21,508. Location is Humble, TX 77338 Thank you

Googled and found the car so I could make sure its a 4-door. :b These are right around $20k at auction, so their price is very good.

Should I aim for $20k or 21k for sticker price?

corvette

surferdudehb said:

Should I aim for $20k or 21k for sticker price?

It sounds like a good deal, even at their asking price. My standard trick in that situation is to ask for $1,000 off, and take whatever I can get--after all, the deal was good, to begin with.

qbrozen

surferdudehb said:

qbrozen said:

Hi, I'm looking to purchase the following used Honda from a GMC dealership. 2016 Honda Accord EX-L with 21,922 miles, 2.4L engine, CVT automatic, white exterior/black interior, moon roof. Clean Carfax but the car is currently getting its radio/screen replaced (not sure why). GMC dealer online price is $21,508. Location is Humble, TX 77338 Thank you

Googled and found the car so I could make sure its a 4-door. :b These are right around $20k at auction, so their price is very good.

Should I aim for $20k or 21k for sticker price?

Their asking price is very good. If you can get any extra off, good for you. But you should be willing to pay what they are asking and feel good about it.

cdnpinhead

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kyfdx

cdnpinhead said:

The advice given here is worth far more than what it costs.

lol

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kyfdx

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Mr_Shiftright

Hi Q! -- what are you seeing for a 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 67,000 miles, fully loaded up, SF Bay Area, 6-speed manual, chocolate brown, top shape? Asking $10,800.

nyccarguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

Hi Q! -- what are you seeing for a 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman S, 67,000 miles, fully loaded up, SF Bay Area, 6-speed manual, chocolate brown, top shape? Asking $10,800.

Have you driven one of these generation Minis with a 6-Speed Stick? I think the experience might be quite different to yours.